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Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 24 @ 2:36 PM ET
So the kids life is supposed to be over because he took a pic? LOL cant play hockey ever again ? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...


im ashamed at you Karine, for dog piling onto a kid and wishing for his cancellation.

- DanielEtvs



Take your bro code bullpoop and GTFO.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 24 @ 2:41 PM ET
She made a poor decision on who to trust in a sexual encounter and got burned

The blowback from it due to the player being a top NHL prospect has had more to do with any lasting repercussions to her personal life than the actual pic (which at this point would be long forgotten by all parties) would have

- TheGame316


How many times have you blamed the victim now?


Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 24 @ 2:41 PM ET
So by inference, that would necessarily mean any team who DID draft him is "shameful". And then anyone who dare sign him as a free agent shameful as well. In other words, if ANYONE lets this kid play hockey, shame on them. That's called cancellation. That is cancel culture exemplified. Not in my backyard? It's a very simple minded way of looking at the world. Good enough to be the headline story i guess though! Get woke go broke Ek
- DanielEtvs


Again - you just don't get it. I'm not surprised based on your series of posts.

Him not getting drafted THIS YEAR does not = never playing hockey again.

He outright said he did not want to get drafted this year.
Maybe he has some soul-searching to do, will be ready next year.
And maybe teams next year will be willing to take a chance that he is redeemed.

It's like you have a little bit of knowledge, but not nearly enough to make a sensible comment.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:43 PM ET
So by inference, that would necessarily mean any team who DID draft him is "shameful". And then anyone who dare sign him as a free agent shameful as well. In other words, if ANYONE lets this kid play hockey, shame on them. That's called cancellation. That is cancel culture exemplified. Not in my backyard? It's a very simple minded way of looking at the world. Good enough to be the headline story i guess though! Get woke go broke Ek
- DanielEtvs


The (frank)ing kid asked not to be drafted. How stupid do you have to be to ignore that critical part of the equation? If he realizes he’s not ready he needs some time to before he deserves to be drafted (I forget his actual words) why the (frank) would Bergevin decide otherwise?

Leave the young woman out of it for a second and assume the kid is serious about wanting to move past this in the most positive, healthiest way possible. There were two potential outcomes:

1. He doesn’t get drafted and this gets forgotten and he grows up and it’s a minor blip in next years draft.

2. Bergevin decides that a slight hockey advantage is too big a deal and instead puts the kid in the middle of the Montreal media fire storm.

But hey, throw around your cool Fox terms like woke and hope that is enough of a substitute for critical thought.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:44 PM ET
Of all the (frank)ing bullpoop posted in this thread, this might be the most (frank)ed up thing posted.

In your opinion, her right to privacy is worth about a couple of bucks.

(frank) you.

- Mashadar


If you aren't identifiable, how is your privacy breached?

Had he instead verbally told his friends the sorted details, or shared then in text form in a group chat including details of all acts, descriptions of her body and things she said or did, would that still be a crime? Would it be better, or worse?

Please dispense more of your moral virtue upon us
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
How many times have you blamed the victim now?
- Mashadar


How many times have you feigned outrage in an attempt to get your morality kicks on a hockey forum?
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jul 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
The kid had remorse, he tried to do the right thing afterwards....Obviously he watched too many cartoons featuring Pepe Le Pu !!! He is a victum of Pepe mentality!
Too bad he was just too skillful a player for Montreal to pass up!
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
The kid had remorse, he tried to do the right thing afterwards....Obviously he watched too many cartoons featuring Pepe Le Pu !!! He is a victum of Pepe mentality!
Too bad he was just too skillful a player for Montreal to pass up!

- HenryHockey


Outstanding draft value by Bergy

Best PLAYER Available
AllenB
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 01.23.2021

Jul 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
Can’t believe this is such a big issue today, the young man was immature by sharing pics of himself and a young lady having sex, but mature enough to suggest that he should not be taken in this years draft. What is it? Mature? Or immature? The reality is he is a foolish young man that shared pictures with his teammates, got caught, apologized, faced the court system…and hopefully learned a life lesson. Everyone is in such an uproar!!! Graig Button making it sound like he had kidnapped and raped her…. If I was her father I would have punched this kid in the mouth and moved on… but we have all made mistakes! Maybe what this young man needs is to be surrounded by role models, mentors and being picked by serious organization as the Habs can help him grow. This will get more media traction than a sex offender sheltered by a NHL team that KNEW what was going on.

At the end, we are all full of poop!

- Slimvinnie


I would send him living with Shea Weber in deep BC Forest...

He would cut wood 10 hours a day and fight bears berore dinner...

He will have less energy to post porn and there is not even Internet down there...
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
bro code? wtf are you talking about? I dont condone a kid doing something sleezy or criminal. I just dont think the punishment should be a lifetime ban from being employed. And when someone does employ, have the headline story be how shameful it is to employ them. The same standard could easily be applied to you, and you wouldnt like it. Unless you've never done anything bad or wrong. but then you'd be Jesus, and i doubt he would have stooped such such lows as accusing me of following "bro code" on a forum
- DanielEtvs


That's the problem with SJW's. The left eats their own. It's only unfair when it happens to them
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Jul 24 @ 2:50 PM ET

- twiztedmike

Seriously? This guy can't compete with the actual Burger King 👑 guy. C'mon.
AllenB
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 01.23.2021

Jul 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Next time Bergevin will go at Tout le Monde en Parle, it will be really interesting
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 24 @ 2:51 PM ET
If you aren't identifiable, how is your privacy breached?

Had he instead verbally told his friends the sorted details, or shared then in text form in a group chat including details of all acts, descriptions of her body and things she said or did, would that still be a crime? Would it be better, or worse?

Please dispense more of your moral virtue upon us

- TheGame316


All these "what if..." or "yeah, but..." or "what about this other unrelated guy...." takes are just you specifically stating what he did as 100% completely OK.

If you are defending this guy or his actions in any way, defending the pick by the Habs in any way then you are just simply a (frank)ing piece of poop.

I really mean that.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jul 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
bro code? wtf are you talking about? I dont condone a kid doing something sleezy or criminal. I just dont think the punishment should be a lifetime ban from being employed. And when someone does employ, have the headline story be how shameful it is to employ them. The same standard could easily be applied to you, and you wouldnt like it. Unless you've never done anything bad or wrong. but then you'd be Jesus, and i doubt he would have stooped such such lows as accusing me of following "bro code" on a forum
- DanielEtvs


Who said a lifetime ban?

As I posted earliier:

Let me be clear, and I have stated this time and time again, I don't believe people deserve to punished forever. But they need to show change with actions. That does not in a few weeks or with some PR campaign.


And yes, if I did what he had done, then I should be held to that same basic standard. As should everyone else.

Go (frank)ing read what was posted before opening your yap.


TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
All these "what if..." or "yeah, but..." or "what about this other unrelated guy...." takes are just you specifically stating what he did as 100% completely OK.

If you are defending this guy or his actions in any way, defending the pick by the Habs in any way then you are just simply a (frank)ing piece of poop.

I really mean that.

- Mashadar


Meh, It was a dirtball move but it wasn't the worst on the world. I'd bet that something like it is taking place 10's of thousands of times today

And the value was too good to pass up. You can't expect 31 other teams to collude to not draft a top talent because he asked them not to. Just like a team taking him in the 2nd round is somehow better than a team taking him at the end of the first round

Hockey is a game about points on the scoreboard and points in the standings. Not some arbitrary social credit system where the team with the best morality score wins

Sports need to stay out of the legal system. If the player isn't in jail on gameday, then he's perfectly able to be on the ice/field. If a butthvrt fan doesn't want to buy a ticket or a jersey because of that, that's your purview, then it's for the team to decide if it's worth it or not
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
There is speculation that Montreal Canadiens offered Phillip Danault a five-year deal at $5.5 million after the playoffs and he turned it down. If that is true, he must know he’s going to get more somewhere else.

IMO, if this is indeed true, frank him, we will get someone
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
There is speculation that Montreal Canadiens offered Phillip Danault a five-year deal at $5.5 million after the playoffs and he turned it down. If that is true, he must know he’s going to get more somewhere else.

IMO, if this is indeed true, frank him, we will get someone

- habs88888

its not too late to win the Hyman sweepstakes
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
its not too late to win the Hyman sweepstakes
- twiztedmike


Hyman is LW, 2 different things
Deplorable_Maximus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 12.21.2020

Jul 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
The object of the game is to draft a player and not make it into some MeToo exercise. Activism needs to get out of sports entirely.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jul 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
There is speculation that Montreal Canadiens offered Phillip Danault a five-year deal at $5.5 million after the playoffs and he turned it down. If that is true, he must know he’s going to get more somewhere else.

IMO, if this is indeed true, frank him, we will get someone

- habs88888


Maybe he wants to play elsewhere? He has the choice to go anywhere he wants. It’s not all about money. The COVID thing complicated things as well
captrjd
Ottawa Senators
Location: Petawawa, ON
Joined: 01.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
I said immediately after Mailloux asked the teams not to pick him, that, if I was a manager, I would. It was a powerful act of contrition.

I would also ensure his support and the victim's, and provide all help possible to both. You see, as a minor delinquent he is still protected by the Youth Criminal Justice Act, which aims to rehabilitate young adults into becoming good, useful citizens.

Kudos to Bergeron that, knowing how this would go for a minority of loud-mouths, and for a good group of people with reasonable questions such as you, h still did it.

Let's face it: at 31, getting a right-handed D man with offensive skills and sand-paper, when your main organizational gap in on Right D, is a no-brainer.

Finally, Chicago isn't a reference. Sexual assault against a male player by staff, anyone?
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 24 @ 3:24 PM ET
Meh, It was a dirtball move but it wasn't the worst on the world. I'd bet that something like it is taking place 10's of thousands of times today

And the value was too good to pass up. You can't expect 31 other teams to collude to not draft a top talent because he asked them not to. Just like a team taking him in the 2nd round is somehow better than a team taking him at the end of the first round

Hockey is a game about points on the scoreboard and points in the standings. Not some arbitrary social credit system where the team with the best morality score wins

Sports need to stay out of the legal system. If the player isn't in jail on gameday, then he's perfectly able to be on the ice/field. If a butthvrt fan doesn't want to buy a ticket or a jersey because of that, that's your purview, then it's for the team to decide if it's worth it or not

- TheGame316


Hockey is also about character.

And your "value" statement is why it keeps happening. That you don't understand that also shows your character, or lack thereof.

TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jul 24 @ 3:33 PM ET
Hockey is also about character.

And your "value" statement is why it keeps happening. That you don't understand that also shows your character, or lack thereof.

- Nasty_Duck


Which side of the scoreboard do they keep score on character?

If there a woke website that keeps track of the modified standings, or is that now ESPN?
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
Which side of the scoreboard do they keep score on character?

If there a woke website that keeps track of the modified standings, or is that now ESPN?

- TheGame316



You don't understand nearly as much about sports as you think you do. No team wins a championship without character.

And keep using that word. Seems a bit... odd ...
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 24 @ 3:43 PM ET
LOL, maybe hes not a "real heart and soul guy" who "plays w jam" and wont be able to "get pucks deep".

p.s. Play like a champion today! Follow your dreams!

- DanielEtvs


Who did the scoring in the SCF?

Wasn't all Kucherov or Point, was it?
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