When I think about the Hyman situation, my first thought is what does it mean for the Sens when they play the Leafs.

In order for the Sens to make the playoffs, they will need to play the Leafs even or better over the season. Lots of complaints in Ottawa that the Sens are drafting too much grit and passing on skill.

Although there is not a great deal of rivalry between the teams at this point, they remain important bench marks for each other.

#1 If the Sens do not win the season series against the Leafs, they will not compete for a playoff position.

#2 If the Leafs do not win the season series against the Sens it will be because of the robust physical game played by the Sens and it will signal the same old playoff issues for the Leafs. On the other hand, if the Leafs can succeed against the Sens physical style of play, it might signal that the Leafs are turning the corner towards being able to meet their playoff ambitions.
- spatso

Lolz

Why do so few people not understand the hyman situation?

I saw someone talking about the value of negotiating rights are traded for 4ths and 5ths, why leafs asking for a 2nd? Because they're not trading the negotiating rights?

The dimwits talking about "take something or take nothing". Yeah that's not how this works. The leafs are better off taking nothing rather than bow down and take less value than they should. Leafs get nothing (that's what happens with ufas) and the oilers have to deal with more cap.

People think that dubas is only doing this to screw hyman lol its brutal the level of understanding on the issues.

Edit: also a lot of people saying the leafs screwed up their cap and if they had enough space they'd have signed him. Hyman isn't leaving becuase the leafs don't have cal space for him he's leaving because people are stupidly paying him 5.5mil for 7-8 years. They could figure out how to keep him but he's not close to worth that.

I read today that the Leafs have Interest In resigning Galchenyuk and Andersen. Here's the fact. There hands are tied and clueless and will probably panic and bring them both back. Toronto management Is clueless and full of fear. The pressure Is mounting.
- Shady1962

Yep. Scared poopless to shift gears. Going down with the ship full of holes.

Yep. Scared poopless to shift gears. Going down with the ship full of holes.
- fifty__missions

Bring back the same team isn't panicking. Panicking would be blowing up the team and selling value for scraps.

Bring back the same team isn't panicking. Panicking would be blowing up the team and selling value for scraps.
- burn

It's not the same team. It's worse, because of the idiotic cap structure.

Yep. Scared poopless to shift gears. Going down with the ship full of holes.
- fifty__missions

Its a rumour.

Second of all, if Andersen comes in cheap enough why wouldn't we do it? We know he can play 50+ games if Campbell falters. Just need him as a back up.

Galy played well in his role. Should Boston not resign Hall because they also failed?

Why do so few people not understand the hyman situation?

I saw someone talking about the value of negotiating rights are traded for 4ths and 5ths, why leafs asking for a 2nd? Because they're not trading the negotiating rights?

The dimwits talking about "take something or take nothing". Yeah that's not how this works. The leafs are better off taking nothing rather than bow down and take less value than they should. Leafs get nothing (that's what happens with ufas) and the oilers have to deal with more cap.

People think that dubas is only doing this to screw hyman lol its brutal the level of understanding on the issues.
- burn

Yes! I think you are exactly right. Teams are fully engaged in a cap war. We are only beginning to understand that cap space is a negotiable asset. Teams exploit other teams when they see a cap vulnerability. Make no mistake, the Oilers are exploiting a Leaf vulnerability. What is the fair tradeoff for the Leafs? It should not be to roll over and play nice.

Why do so few people not understand the hyman situation?

I saw someone talking about the value of negotiating rights are traded for 4ths and 5ths, why leafs asking for a 2nd? Because they're not trading the negotiating rights?

The dimwits talking about "take something or take nothing". Yeah that's not how this works. The leafs are better off taking nothing rather than bow down and take less value than they should. Leafs get nothing (that's what happens with ufas) and the oilers have to deal with more cap.

People think that dubas is only doing this to screw hyman lol its brutal the level of understanding on the issues.

Edit: also a lot of people saying the leafs screwed up their cap and if they had enough space they'd have signed him. Hyman isn't leaving becuase the leafs don't have cal space for him he's leaving because people are stupidly paying him 5.5mil for 7-8 years. They could figure out how to keep him but he's not close to worth that.
- burn

I'd go as far to say Dubas also wants a message that he isnt a push over in the league for future trades.

I'd go as far to say Dubas also wants a message that he isnt a push over in the league for future trades.
- Aaron_85

Dubas won't be here for future trades.

It's not the same team. It's worse, because of the idiotic cap structure.
- fifty__missions

Is the offseason over?

Worse how? They still have their elite players and they didn't lose their goalie or any dmen.

Its a rumour.

Second of all, if Andersen comes in cheap enough why wouldn't we do it? We know he can play 50+ games if Campbell falters. Just need him as a back up.

Galy played well in his role. Should Boston not resign Hall because they also failed?
- Aaron_85

This.

Yes! I think you are exactly right. Teams are fully engaged in a cap war. We are only beginning to understand that cap space is a negotiable asset. Teams exploit other teams when they see a cap vulnerability. Make no mistake, the Oilers are exploiting a Leaf vulnerability. What is the fair tradeoff for the Leafs? It should not be to roll over and play nice.
- spatso

Huh? How on earth did you type I'm exactly right then post this?

It's the leafs exploiting the oilers vulnerability.

You replied to a post about not understanding the situation with this? Congratulations on perpetrating the not understanding

I'd go as far to say Dubas also wants a message that he isnt a push over in the league for future trades.
- Aaron_85

Yes.

Dubas won't be here for future trades.
- fifty__missions

If he was going to fired this summer it would be already done.

I bet you a million dollars dubas is here to make "a trade in the future"

If he was going to fired this summer it would be already done.

I bet you a million dollars dubas is here to make "a trade in the future"
- burn

Unless there's a massive let down and the team is at the bottom of the league he isnt fired pre-summer.

Man I'm interested in how good the flyers will be this year.
- Aaron_85

They better hope Carter Hart bounces back.

They better hope Carter Hart bounces back.
- gergeswillems

Right?!

Wouldn't be surprised if they were after Andersen. I dont know where he goes to be a starter this year. Lots of back up options.

Right?!

Wouldn't be surprised if they were after Andersen. I dont know where he goes to be a starter this year. Lots of back up options.
- Aaron_85

Pittsburgh would probably be a good bet.

Right?!

Wouldn't be surprised if they were after Andersen. I dont know where he goes to be a starter this year. Lots of back up options.
- Aaron_85

I'd be signing Boom shakHALAKa. Some insurance in case Catah Haht craps the bed again.

If he was going to fired this summer it would be already done.

I bet you a million dollars dubas is here to make "a trade in the future"
- burn

Yes he'll be here this season, and then gone. His cap structure is fatally flawed.

If he was going to fired this summer it would be already done.

I bet you a million dollars dubas is here to make "a trade in the future"
- burn

Unfortunately, I have to agree.
It’s frightening to think about how much more damage can be done before he and the rest of the shanasham crew are turfed next spring.

Huh? How on earth did you type I'm exactly right then post this?

It's the leafs exploiting the oilers vulnerability.

You replied to a post about not understanding the situation with this? Congratulations on perpetrating the not understanding
- burn

Partially valid.

The Oilers are attempting to scoop Hyman because the Leafs are unable or unwilling to match their offer. The Leaf vulnerability is their limited free cap.

On the other hand, the Leafs are trying to inflict a wound on the Oilers by forcing a better return knowing that the Oilers vulnerability is the accrued commitment on future years.

Sign Cizikas

Trade Rielly and sign Jake McCabe

Sign Schwartz

Sign Mrazek
(or big trade for Gibson Rakell and Terry)

Yes he'll be here this season, and then gone. His cap structure is fatally flawed.
- fifty__missions

You know that firing dubas doesn't change the cap structure or guarantee that new guy will/can change it?

Unfortunately, I have to agree.
It’s frightening to think about how much more damage can be done before he and the rest of the shanasham crew are turfed next spring.
- daws44

We'll see, he fixed a lot of inherited damage.