Great tune
- A_SteamingLombardi

Thanks to you playing this a few months ago, I thought this was appropriate.👍

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/271111/yegor-sharangovich

Yegor Sharangovich of the New Jersey Devils.

Drafted as a D+1 in 2018. 30 points in 54 games last season for the Devils.

After watching a bit of tape on both, they seem very similar in game aspects.
- manvanfan

Thought maybe you were trying to imply that because player x was taken in round y, that a similar player should also be taken in that same round.

This is for a friend of mine I've known for 48 years who passed this week.

This is for a friend of mine I've known for 48 years who passed this week.



- A_SteamingLombardi

Sorry to hear, like losing a Family Member.

You have zero idea, who I am and where I live, Nor do you have any idea about my life.
Whether I live in unceded territory, or whether you live in the biggest clear-cut in BC, that shouldn't matter, when it ones do addressing the past, the future and the present,.
Let's get it right next time.

https://youtu.be/SXW-sL5gzHQ
- Reubenkincade

Ok. Fair enough. Same goes for you.

This is for a friend of mine I've known for 48 years who passed this week.



- A_SteamingLombardi

Penny Oleksiak and the relay team capture Canada's first medal of the games 4 x 100 Silver

Ok. Fair enough. Same goes for you.
- MisterBrown

I will always defend the original inhabitants of this land, or any other, enough damage has been done and we do not need a overtures that do nothing or make things worse than they already are.
And BTW, I live in the Northwest , unceded territory of many 1st Nations, many that are personal friends and family, so this subject is very dear to my heart .
Please refrain from any innuendo type remarks.
Thank you.

I will always defend the original inhabitants of this land, or any other, enough damage has been done and we do not need a overtures that do nothing or make things worse than they already are.
And BTW, I live in the Northwest , unceded territory of many 1st Nations, many that are personal friends and family, so this subject is very dear to my heart .
Please refrain from any innuendo type remarks.
Thank you.
- Reubenkincade

I like this. I have relatives through marriage that are natIve and I've known about the horrors for along time, having said that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Ek has the Flyers as a team interested in Holtby.
I suppose they're looking for a vet goalie to backup Carter Hart.
Not sure what they have left to trade, but seem like a team willing to mix it up.

I wonder what cheap vet goalie we'd replace Holtby with if we can offload him?
Bernier and Reimer jump out when looking at sv% and age...however they'd need to be signed for about half their current salary.

? Perhaps Laurent Brossoit
Is he in Winnipeg's long term plans?

I like this. I have relatives through marriage that are natIve and I've known about the horrors for along time, having said that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
- Bettmanhatesus

Yup.
I try not to get political on here, this is not political, this is a very very sad and terribly pathetic part part of the settlers here in Canada's , history.

Yup.
I try not to get political on here, this is not political, this is a very very sad and terribly pathetic part part of the settlers here in Canada's , history.
- Reubenkincade

What's more is the abysmal response from government, the church, etc.
Truly shameful.

Patrick Bacon
@TopDownHockey
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#LetsGoOilers selected Luca Munzenberger 90th overall. I ranked him 1,459th.

Patrick Bacon
@TopDownHockey
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#LetsGoOilers selected Luca Munzenberger 90th overall. I ranked him 1,459th.

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- VANTEL[img][/img]

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You think we have it bad?

German kid, sounds like a GM trying to keep Drai happy.
Anyone know if McDavid's brother needs a job?

German kid, sounds like a GM trying to keep Drai happy.
Anyone know if McDavid's brother needs a job?
- dbot

He's working finance on Bay street lol.
Making enough $$$.

What's more is the abysmal response from government, the church, etc.
Truly shameful.
- dbot

Yup.
Pathetic

Via the Athletic:

The upside bet

With a lack of early-round picks at their disposal, a key question for the Canucks is how they can maintain a conveyer belt of NHL contributors coming to play on entry-level deals as the club’s star-level talent becomes more expensive.

The Canucks have dealt their first-round pick in consecutive years. They made one selection in the top 100 picks in 2020, did so again in 2021 and are poised to do so again in 2022, as the club only owns its first-round pick.

Saturday, we got at least a partial answer to that question when the Canucks took Danila Klimovich, a high-upside Belarusian forward who played in a low-level league this past year, but turned heads — including the heads of the Canucks’ scouting staff — with a dynamic performance at the U18 tournament.


“We saw him down in Dallas, we watched film on him. He’s a big guy, power, but he’s got real good skill, high-end skill, real good shooting skill,” said Harvey. “We think there’s a lot of upside here with him and hopefully we can get him over here and get him going.”

“We were looking for some high-end skill,” Harvey later added. “After we saw him (in Dallas) I went back and saw him as many times as I could at the tournament and every time he did something on the ice that made me go ‘wow.’ With his size and determination, which really sold it for me when he played against the Canadians and Swedes, even if he didn’t score, I thought he was an effective player. The work rate was there.”

Klimovich’s CHL rights are owned by the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies of the QMJHL and the Canucks’ preference is to bring him over to North America, although his agent Dan Milstein told The Athletic contributor Rick Dhaliwal on Saturday that the KHL remains an option for Klimovich. Considering the wait time the Canucks contended with on 2019 first-round pick Vasili Podkolzin, you’d expect the club to have limited appetite for that route if they can avoid it.

Scouts we spoke to about the pick on Saturday were split. The vast majority of teams we touched base with seemed to have him listed in the third round, with one club having him far later than that.


There’s widespread admiration for his shooting ability and puck skills. Watching his highlights is just fun — like watching an And1 basketball mixtape — but some questions linger about his hockey IQ, awareness and whether he might be too one-dimensional.

“He spiked at the U18s,” one experienced NHL amateur scout told The Athletic.

“I like the fact he isn’t shy about playing the game on the inside. Decent size, not a giant power forward type but does bring edge and energy. Likely a bit higher than most teams had him.”

That the Canucks were working in a relatively low intel environment probably isn’t ideal, but one can understand why the club would’ve prioritized upside considering their lack of picks. That said, with the amount of talent on the board when Vancouver selected Klimovich with the 41st pick, one wonders if they might’ve been better trading down.

“The upside with Klimovich, if he hits I think you’ve got a first-round talent,” Harvey said of the pick. “We like his compete, that was one of the things we noticed about him. With (Joni) Jurmo in the (2020) third round, we looked at the size and the skating and the upside is there if he does put it together.”

So this is the trend. We saw it last year with Jurmo, and again in 2021 with Klimovich, both high upside bets, taken in part to offset the club’s lack of overall picks.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. As far as I'm concerned BC should be given in its entirety to the first nations. Then they can decide whether to let anyone stay on their land, and what the terms are.
- MisterBrown

Yet you still talk about a guy thats been with the team for two decades being a minority hire, you seem a bit confused!

What's more is the abysmal response from government, the church, etc.
Truly shameful.
- dbot

They are finally making baby steps, now that its entering the public conciousness. A fair few steps behind NZ, thats for sure!

From the Athletic part II:

Clark gets his goalie

Aku Koskenvuo is a specimen.

He’s 6-foot-4 and athletic but he’s never really put up sterling save percentage numbers.

That the Finnish national team still rates him and selected him for the U18 tournament is a promising sign, as is the fact that he was recruited by Harvard where he’ll become the first Finnish-born player to compete for the Crimson in the school’s hockey history.

What Koskenvuo lacks on polish, however, isn’t a concern to Canucks director of goaltending and goalie coach Ian Clark, who has significant input guiding Vancouver’s approach to amateur goalies.

“For me, I’m always an evaluator of intangible assets,” Clark said when asked about what he saw in the Canucks’ fifth-round pick. “I’m always a believer that the technical side of the game is tangible, it’s something we can excel in — in terms of myself and Curtis Sanford — it’s something we’re capable of instilling in a goaltender.

“So rather than worrying too much about their technical ability right now … We’re looking at the things that are a little more difficult to teach, nurture and mentor. He’s gifted in those assets and that’s what drew us to him.”

Clark has a system of evaluation, which includes seven traits that a goaltender requires to be great. They don’t have to have all of them in equal measure, all goaltenders will be different, but they have to check every box over time to achieve the greatness that is Clark’s goal when he’s working with a goaltender — a process he refers to as going on a journey with them.

“It’s the mental capacity for the position,” Clark said, discussing his evaluation of Koskenvuo. “I always look at seven things in a goaltender and technique is one of them, but every goaltender has a different recipe. There’s technical goaltenders out there that lean on technique a lot, there’s other goaltenders that lean on their mental capacity, their reactivity, their competitiveness, their reads and visual talents. These are all critical assets and some of them are tangible and some are much more intangible.

“I call them wild horses in the sense that these goalies who maybe they’re a little bit green, a little bit raw technically, but they have these incredible attributes that — in my history working in the game — are great indicators of future talent and pro potential. When we were in Columbus and we picked guys like Joonas Korpisalo and Elvis Merzlikins, they had these qualities … these were goaltenders with incredible attributes, who maybe didn’t fully comprehend some of the structural elements of the game. Once they were given a more cohesive approach of how they should go about their business out there, they combined it with all those elements that are tougher to teach and it all came together in this high-level pro potential package.

“And that’s what we see in Aku.”

Clark was not in Vancouver for the draft on Saturday, so he followed along over teleconference and on television from his offseason home in Florida.

“Clarkie was on the horn with us!” Harvey laughed. “We liked this (Koskenvuo). His tournament in Dallas wasn’t the best, but we see good things in him and upside. We thought we’d have to get him in the third round, but we’re happy to get him where we did. And Clarkie, he’s really happy.”

It’s interesting to note that in a draft that was fundamentally dictated by the limitations imposed on players, leagues, executives and scouts by the various challenges of the pandemic — whether they were public health compliance-related, logistical, travel-related or budgetary — Clark was probably the person on the amateur side of Vancouver’s operation that was least affected. Because Clark is part of the Canucks’ NHL travelling party, he’s not dependent on live viewings in the same way as the average amateur scout.

“Goaltending is a little different in terms of live viewings,” Clark explained to The Athletic on Saturday. “It’s always valuable, but with a forward or a defenceman, much of what you’re evaluating is their play without the puck. Sometimes you can’t see that without a live viewing. With a goalie, once the goalie is in the picture, you’re not worried at the same proportionate level about what they’re doing with the puck. When the camera is in-zone, you can generally see everything a goalie is doing.”

Because of Clark’s record evaluating netminders, and his level of influence in guiding Vancouver’s amateur talent evaluations of goalies, this will be seen as purely a Clark pick. That’s really not how it works, even within Clark’s fiefdom, though.

“It’s very important from a scouting-team perspective to leverage all of our assets as an organization,” Clark said of his role collaborating with the amateur scouting department. “We have all these scouts with boots on the ground contributing information — so it’s a team, collaborative effort when it comes to the goaltending. I have very strong feelings about that. I talk to Todd Harvey a lot and reach out to the regional scouts a lot because it’s important, and it’s important to have those boots on the ground.”

Via the Athletic:
- NewYorkNuck

That's good, kind of how I felt about the pick. A 3rd round pick for most. Other thought too would have been why not trade down and pick up another pick in the 3rd or 4th.

I thought Jurmo was picked a round or two early last year as well.

That's good, kind of how I felt about the pick. A 3rd round pick for most. Other thought too would have been why not trade down and pick up another pick in the 3rd or 4th.

I thought Jurmo was picked a round or two early last year as well.
- manvanfan

If you have desires for the Canucks to draft from the CHL..:

The shift away from the CHL: Leaving behind an organizational sore spot

At the start of GM Jim Benning’s regime, the Canucks leaned hard on the CHL in their drafting. The Canucks made 28 picks between the 2014 and 2017 drafts, with 17 of those selections being CHL players. That’s nearly 61 percent of their picks, which is considerably higher than the league average that floats in the 41 percent range.

These weren’t just a high volume of mid- and late-round selections, either. The club invested many of its top picks within Canada. Vancouver drafted five CHL prospects in the first two rounds and two more in the third round during these first four draft years.

That trend has changed recently, though.

The Canucks have allocated just four of their 26 selections to CHL products in the last four drafts. Vancouver hasn’t drafted a player out of the QMJHL in six years since Guillaume Brisebois. It’s no secret that the Canucks made a ton of hay south of the border under Judd Brackett and since his departure, there’s been an increased amateur interest outside of North America. All but one of Vancouver’s six draftees were from Europe this year while three of their five picks were from there in 2020.

Intentional or not, this shift away from home isn’t a bad idea at all because the Canucks’ historical draft results from Canada haven’t been fruitful.

Under Benning, Vancouver’s two signature CHL picks — Jake Virtanen and Olli Juolevi — haven’t lived up to their high draft slots. In 2016, the Canucks used five of their six picks on CHL prospects and netted just 25 NHL games total so far from the draft class. The second half of Benning’s draft record projects much better than the first half where the club burned a lot of picks in the OHL and WHL.

On its own, the CHL track record wouldn’t be a major red flag. Some of Vancouver’s CHL prospects are still developing and the scouting staff has more than made up for it by excelling in other regions. But combining the results from previous regimes and the organization’s CHL output is almost comical.

Since 2000, the Canucks have made 64 picks from the CHL. Vancouver has graduated just five legitimate NHL players in 20 years out of those picks: Virtanen, Jared McCann, Bo Horvat, Cody Hodgson and Michael Grabner. Juolevi might join that group as a sixth if he can stick in the NHL. Only one of them, Horvat, has turned into a core player for the team.

Yup.
I try not to get political on here, this is not political, this is a very very sad and terribly pathetic part part of the settlers here in Canada's , history.
- Reubenkincade

If only there was a separate thread to discuss these sort of things without derailing this one.

CanucksAbbyFan2
@Fan2Abby
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#Canucks Overseas Schedule JUL 24

#18 Danila Klimovich might not make it to North America. Thanks to
@statman1956
for pointing out he started a tryout with Dinamo Minsk (KHL) this morning in their preseason opener.

Only 1 G and 1 A in his pro debut

https://twitter.com/i/status/1419069587794976768
- VANTEL

It’s a bit early for “I told you so”, either way…

It’s a bit early for “I told you so”, either way…
- 1970vintage

OK let me know when you think it is appropriate to cheer for my teams prospects.