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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
Which makes Jones the likely trade asset
- TPC


yeah, it sure seems like he's trade bait


nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
As long as its no more than 2.5 million per year I am cool with it. You don't want to be paying 3rd pair guys much more than that.
- TPC

Supposedly 3 years between 2.25-2.75
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
Also damn Larry going to ruin all the free agency fun on Wednesday isn't he
patersonnick46
Location: Keyport, NJ
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jul 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
I would love to hear back from people who understand hockey! How bad did the Rangers seriously screw up here??

First off the screw up started with Sather still having Dolans ear. They fired two guys who know more about hockey than Sather ever will! Gorton built the Stanly Cup Champs Bruins and JD helped put together the Stanly Cup Champs Blues!!! The only thing Sather has done is destroy the NYR like Tump did to America!!!! Gorton made some great deals getting us players like Mika and Fox for example and JD sure had his hand in on getting us Panarin! They were building from the top down in lines before the crying started about we were not tough enough. First off you don't build from your 4th line up you start from the 1st line down! Jeff and JD should have never been fired, I do get the Rangers were affraid of loosing Drury but they should have retired Sather moved JD to Sathers spot and Gorton to JD spot and made Drury the GM!

With regards to Jack Eichel I know most people who understand hockey knows we do not need him! We do not need a seriously injured player with a neck injury and someone who is bad in the lockerroom!!! We just got rid of a cancer and we do not need another cancer in our lockerroom!!! He is not worth the 10M cap hit for the next 5 years! We already have rock starts who can put the puck in the net we just needed to get a little tougher and harder to play against! Dylan Larkin would have been a much better player to aquire with a 6M cap hit for the next two years and would have cost us nothing compaired to what gambling on Eichel would have cost us!!!!

Trading Buch was butt f ing stupid!!! You not only pissed off your core players on your own team but you gave a guy away for nothing who has only improved through his time with the Rangers. His defense got better, his checking got better,. sticking up for players got better and he is one of our leading scoreres!!!! WTF???? They should have signed him long term to a 5.5M deal NOT trade him for a nobody and a second round pick!!!!!

With Sather back in the picture he will destroy everything Jeff and JD had done!!! Now it looks to me it will be another 40 years before we win a Stanley Cup!!!!!
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
yeah, it sure seems like he's trade bait
- jimbro83

Maybe we can trade him for Blais……heard he’s a 4th liner that likes to throw the body around 👀
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I would love to hear back from people who understand hockey! How bad did the Rangers seriously screw up here??

First off the screw up started with Sather still having Dolans ear. They fired two guys who know more about hockey than Sather ever will! Gorton built the Stanly Cup Champs Bruins and JD helped put together the Stanly Cup Champs Blues!!! The only thing Sather has done is destroy the NYR like Tump did to America!!!! Gorton made some great deals getting us players like Mika and Fox for example and JD sure had his hand in on getting us Panarin! They were building from the top down in lines before the crying started about we were not tough enough. First off you don't build from your 4th line up you start from the 1st line down! Jeff and JD should have never been fired, I do get the Rangers were affraid of loosing Drury but they should have retired Sather moved JD to Sathers spot and Gorton to JD spot and made Drury the GM!

With regards to Jack Eichel I know most people who understand hockey knows we do not need him! We do not need a seriously injured player with a neck injury and someone who is bad in the lockerroom!!! We just got rid of a cancer and we do not need another cancer in our lockerroom!!! He is not worth the 10M cap hit for the next 5 years! We already have rock starts who can put the puck in the net we just needed to get a little tougher and harder to play against! Dylan Larkin would have been a much better player to aquire with a 6M cap hit for the next two years and would have cost us nothing compaired to what gambling on Eichel would have cost us!!!!

Trading Buch was butt f ing stupid!!! You not only pissed off your core players on your own team but you gave a guy away for nothing who has only improved through his time with the Rangers. His defense got better, his checking got better,. sticking up for players got better and he is one of our leading scoreres!!!! WTF???? They should have signed him long term to a 5.5M deal NOT trade him for a nobody and a second round pick!!!!!

With Sather back in the picture he will destroy everything Jeff and JD had done!!! Now it looks to me it will be another 40 years before we win a Stanley Cup!!!!!

- patersonnick46


well I am gonna watch anyway, see what happens
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I would love to hear back from people who understand hockey! How bad did the Rangers seriously screw up here??

First off the screw up started with Sather still having Dolans ear. They fired two guys who know more about hockey than Sather ever will! Gorton built the Stanly Cup Champs Bruins and JD helped put together the Stanly Cup Champs Blues!!! The only thing Sather has done is destroy the NYR like Tump did to America!!!! Gorton made some great deals getting us players like Mika and Fox for example and JD sure had his hand in on getting us Panarin! They were building from the top down in lines before the crying started about we were not tough enough. First off you don't build from your 4th line up you start from the 1st line down! Jeff and JD should have never been fired, I do get the Rangers were affraid of loosing Drury but they should have retired Sather moved JD to Sathers spot and Gorton to JD spot and made Drury the GM!

With regards to Jack Eichel I know most people who understand hockey knows we do not need him! We do not need a seriously injured player with a neck injury and someone who is bad in the lockerroom!!! We just got rid of a cancer and we do not need another cancer in our lockerroom!!! He is not worth the 10M cap hit for the next 5 years! We already have rock starts who can put the puck in the net we just needed to get a little tougher and harder to play against! Dylan Larkin would have been a much better player to aquire with a 6M cap hit for the next two years and would have cost us nothing compaired to what gambling on Eichel would have cost us!!!!

Trading Buch was butt f ing stupid!!! You not only pissed off your core players on your own team but you gave a guy away for nothing who has only improved through his time with the Rangers. His defense got better, his checking got better,. sticking up for players got better and he is one of our leading scoreres!!!! WTF???? They should have signed him long term to a 5.5M deal NOT trade him for a nobody and a second round pick!!!!!

With Sather back in the picture he will destroy everything Jeff and JD had done!!! Now it looks to me it will be another 40 years before we win a Stanley Cup!!!!!

- patersonnick46

Ooooookkkkkkk 🤡
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
Maybe we can trade him for Blais……heard he’s a 4th liner that likes to throw the body around 👀
- nyrangers9479


you aren't considered the funniest person around here for nothin
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
I just noticed the end of that Larry brooks article about the Nemeth signing says this:

The Rangers are believed to be still searching for a veteran with size-and-strength attributes to assume the role as seventh defenseman after the club decided to move on from impending free agent Brendan Smith.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
you aren't considered the funniest person around here for nothin
- jimbro83






Let's get on the Nils hype train:

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
I just noticed the end of that Larry brooks article about the Nemeth signing says this:

The Rangers are believed to be still searching for a veteran with size-and-strength attributes to assume the role as seventh defenseman after the club decided to move on from impending free agent Brendan Smith.

- jimbro83



How about just bring Smith back and make him a forward that can go back to D if needed?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
I just noticed the end of that Larry brooks article about the Nemeth signing says this:

The Rangers are believed to be still searching for a veteran with size-and-strength attributes to assume the role as seventh defenseman after the club decided to move on from impending free agent Brendan Smith.

- jimbro83

It makes sense, outside of Trouba and Nemeth they are a really small Defensive corp
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
How about just bring Smith back and make him a forward that can go back to D if needed?
- JRR1285


I don't know, but he's gone

have no idea

maybe he's looking for larger $$$ than they want to give

I have a feeling this other d-man they sign is gonna be cheap-o
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
·
4m
Rangers expected to sign Patrik Nemeth in NHL free agency, Post has learned. https://nypost.com/2021/0...m_campaign=site%20buttons
via @nypostsports

- picklerick

Physical blue liner. Stretch of nastiness. Pair with Nils to assist his transition, solid add
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
I think Othmann is going to be solid. The problem is everyone thought the picked would be moved for a center so he will always be hated
- TPC

As i wrote, Othmann’s ability to play the right side helps. I just was all on the Svechkov train
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
I don't know, but he's gone

have no idea

maybe he's looking for larger $$$ than they want to give

I have a feeling this other d-man they sign is gonna be cheap-o

- jimbro83



Chara?
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jul 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
Nemeth is a decent replacement for Brendan Smith at a proposed much lower cost$$$.

I like the thought of possibly pairing him with Nils ( if he can make the team ). A veteran countryman to help the kid settle into North America. Not a bad idea...
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 26 @ 1:53 PM ET
I would love to hear back from people who understand hockey! How bad did the Rangers seriously screw up here??

First off the screw up started with Sather still having Dolans ear. They fired two guys who know more about hockey than Sather ever will! Gorton built the Stanly Cup Champs Bruins and JD helped put together the Stanly Cup Champs Blues!!! The only thing Sather has done is destroy the NYR like Tump did to America!!!! Gorton made some great deals getting us players like Mika and Fox for example and JD sure had his hand in on getting us Panarin! They were building from the top down in lines before the crying started about we were not tough enough. First off you don't build from your 4th line up you start from the 1st line down! Jeff and JD should have never been fired, I do get the Rangers were affraid of loosing Drury but they should have retired Sather moved JD to Sathers spot and Gorton to JD spot and made Drury the GM!

With regards to Jack Eichel I know most people who understand hockey knows we do not need him! We do not need a seriously injured player with a neck injury and someone who is bad in the lockerroom!!! We just got rid of a cancer and we do not need another cancer in our lockerroom!!! He is not worth the 10M cap hit for the next 5 years! We already have rock starts who can put the puck in the net we just needed to get a little tougher and harder to play against! Dylan Larkin would have been a much better player to aquire with a 6M cap hit for the next two years and would have cost us nothing compaired to what gambling on Eichel would have cost us!!!!

Trading Buch was butt f ing stupid!!! You not only pissed off your core players on your own team but you gave a guy away for nothing who has only improved through his time with the Rangers. His defense got better, his checking got better,. sticking up for players got better and he is one of our leading scoreres!!!! WTF???? They should have signed him long term to a 5.5M deal NOT trade him for a nobody and a second round pick!!!!!

With Sather back in the picture he will destroy everything Jeff and JD had done!!! Now it looks to me it will be another 40 years before we win a Stanley Cup!!!!!

- patersonnick46



RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:02 PM ET
if somebody had signed Buch to an offer sheet anywhere under 6.1 mil a year, the compensation would have been 1 first rounder and a 3rd.

I wonder if there was a chance that the Rangers feared one was coming for Buch and preferred Blais and a 2nd rounder to a first rounder and a 3rd

or if a team would sign him to 4.1 mil a year offer sheet where it would just be a 2nd rounder as compensation

- jimbro83


Your opening point proves further, (with Buch seeking a larger amount deal with term), why Drury should have received a 1st Rounder, instead of a 2nd Rounder of all things, in 2022, with a draft this past weekend he knew going in, the Rangers had no 2nd Round pick.

Had Drury feared an offer sheet coming, he would have had to match it, unless it being of ridiculously high money & term. He then would have had up to days prior to free agency of next Summer in 2022 to trade Buch, should he not be able to get fair value by next season's Trade Deadline a few months ahead.

That's why this past weekend, and overnight here in a reply, I compared Drury's value received for Buch to that Gorton did for Kevin Hayes on Trade Deadline Day in 2019; with both forwards, (though Hayes a center who earlier played wing), being age 26 & potential free agents having great seasons in their prime when dealt. Gorton, however of key among 2 pieces & a 3rd Cond. piece, received a current then 2019 1st Round Pick + age 22 then Brendan Lemieux for toughness, compared to Drury obtaining 2 pieces in that 2nd Rounder in the following 2022 season + age 25 Sam Blais for toughness, who had issues resulting him being in his former head coach Berube's doghouse.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
It makes sense, outside of Trouba and Nemeth they are a really small Defensive corp
- TPC

Let's see if Miller fills out and adds some muscle this year
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
Your opening point proves further, (with Buch seeking a larger amount deal with term), why Drury should have received a 1st Rounder, instead of a 2nd Rounder of all things, in 2022, with a draft this past weekend he knew going in, the Rangers had no 2nd Round pick.

Had Drury feared an offer sheet coming, he would have had to match it, unless it being of ridiculously high money & term. He then would have had up to days prior to free agency of next Summer in 2022 to trade Buch, should he not be able to get fair value by next season's Trade Deadline a few months ahead.

That's why this past weekend, and overnight here in a reply, I compared Drury's value received for Buch to that Gorton did for Kevin Hayes on Trade Deadline Day in 2019; with both forwards, (though Hayes a center who earlier played wing), being age 26 & potential free agents having great seasons in their prime when dealt. Gorton, however of key among 2 pieces & a 3rd Cond. piece, received a current then 2019 1st Round Pick + age 22 then Brendan Lemieux for toughness, compared to Drury obtaining 2 pieces in that 2nd Rounder in the following 2022 season + age 25 Sam Blais for toughness, who had issues resulting him being in his former head coach Berube's doghouse.

- RangerSaver


I still think the Hagelin deal is the best comparison

2nd round pick and a marginal player, although Blais is a definite for this lineup more than Etem was
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Jul 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
Nemeth is a decent replacement for Brendan Smith at a proposed much lower cost$$$.

I like the thought of possibly pairing him with Nils ( if he can make the team ). A veteran countryman to help the kid settle into North America. Not a bad idea...

- TommyGTrain


I can tell my wife the 100k car that didn't really work out is gone and I replaced it with a 60k car, which is much lower and she'll still throw a hot iron at me. lol

Nemeth seems fine, but hopefully it's not 3 years. I'm not loving Drury handing out any sort of term even if it is "lower" cost.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
I just noticed the end of that Larry brooks article about the Nemeth signing says this:

The Rangers are believed to be still searching for a veteran with size-and-strength attributes to assume the role as seventh defenseman after the club decided to move on from impending free agent Brendan Smith.

- jimbro83


So they are looking for a Brendan Smith type to replace Brendan Smith. I wonder if Jack Johnson is available
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
How about just bring Smith back and make him a forward that can go back to D if needed?
- JRR1285


Yup. Talk about an ultimate team player. Smith is that guy.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
mostly positive reaction to the Nemeth signing, lol, it's so weird to see
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