It wasn't a response solely to you. I just feel like I'm missing some element of how paying Buch that money would have been good for the short term future of the Rangers.
- Tonybere

Kravtsov has 20 NHL games and 4 points, I'm not sure his RFA deal next year is going to cost a whole lot

Kravtsov has 20 NHL games and 4 points, I'm not sure his RFA deal next year is going to cost a whole lot
- eichiefs9

A fair point. I thought it was 2 years away.
Regardless, watching him for those 20 games it was easy to see that he has what it takes. I'm as excited to see his progress as anyone else's.

Kravtsov has 20 NHL games and 4 points, I'm not sure his RFA deal next year is going to cost a whole lot
- eichiefs9

Lets say he puts up 50 pts this year… where does that put him?

I guess they needed someone to replace Ghost.
- JRR1285

There goes the Flyers trying to beef up on D

Lets say he puts up 50 pts this year… where does that put him?
- aecliptic

I'd say easily at that $2.5M mark.

Ellis is an upgrade, Risto?, Yandle nope.

I don't understand. Isn't $5.8M exactly the kind of contract we were looking to avoid? It would be squarely in the way of paying Kaapo and Vitali what we hope they will deserve in a couple years. And, we got a needed skill set in return.
I just don't get all the hate on this one. And again, I am a big Buch fan.
- Tonybere

I agree with Tony here. Locking him up near 6mil a year and taking a spot on the wing doesn't mesh with the plans that I see. Maybe I am wrong. But I am not sure Buch is a 6mil man as much as I think he is talented.
I did not like the trade, but I also would not have liked this contract.

Lets say he puts up 50 pts this year… where does that put him?
- aecliptic

Boner town

Lets say he puts up 50 pts this year… where does that put him?
- aecliptic

With more money than I'd expect otherwise. But I'm not going to assume he'll jump from 4pts in 20gp to 50pts in however many games he plays here. I'm not knocking the kid, but that just seems like it'd be a large jump in production year-over-year

I agree with Tony here. Locking him up near 6mil a year and taking a spot on the wing doesn't mesh with the plans that I see. Maybe I am wrong. But I am not sure Buch is a 6mil man as much as I think he is talented.
I did not like the trade, but I also would not have liked this contract.
- NYRCeph

this would have also meant Kakko or Kravs on the 3rd line for the next 4 years - no thanks.

Boner town
- NYRCeph

Considering the lines theyre on, 20g 30a isnt unfathomable for Kakko and Krav each.

I agree with Tony here. Locking him up near 6mil a year and taking a spot on the wing doesn't mesh with the plans that I see. Maybe I am wrong. But I am not sure Buch is a 6mil man as much as I think he is talented.
I did not like the trade, but I also would not have liked this contract.
- NYRCeph

looking at it in a vacuum (i.e. disregarding our roster/cap situation) i think it's clear he is worth at least that. almost a ppg winger who plays PP and PK

Well, the peace here was nice while it lasted.
- JRR1285

People have to settle with this trade. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t the worst trade ever (which it seems like lol)

Bottom line is we all knew Buch wasn’t coming back. The writing was on the wall all season, now it’s some sort of shock all the sudden? I swear our fans are the worst in sports 🤦‍♂️

Instead of trading Buch, they trade who? Kakko? Kravtsov? Hell no do you do that. You trade the guy due for a big raise which was Buch

They got back a sandpaper player which we needed desperately. Is he as good as Buch? No. But they’re two completely different players, but Blais is cheaper and has a defined role that they didn’t have last year.

I think Drury has recognized that they didn’t have a deep playoff team right now. You can have all the skill in the world on two lines, but those bottom 6 six players CANNOT be plugs. Goodrow, Blais and Nemeth all make them much harder to play against now. Especially in the playoffs

People have to settle with this trade. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t the worst trade ever (which it seems like lol)

Bottom line is we all knew Buch wasn’t coming back. The writing was on the wall all season, now it’s some sort of shock all the sudden? I swear our fans are the worst in sports 🤦‍♂️

Instead of trading Buch, they trade who? Kakko? Kravtsov? Hell no do you do that. You trade the guy due for a big raise which was Buch

They got back a sandpaper player which we needed desperately. Is he as good as Buch? No. But they’re two completely different players, but Blais is cheaper and has a defined role that they didn’t have last year.

I think Drury has recognized that they didn’t have a deep playoff team right now. You can have all the skill in the world on two lines, but those bottom 6 six players CANNOT be plugs. Goodrow, Blais and Nemeth all make them much harder to play against now. Especially in the playoffs
- Slimtj100

Im hoping they round that out with Bonino and Martinook.

With more money than I'd expect otherwise. But I'm not going to assume he'll jump from 4pts in 20gp to 50pts in however many games he plays here. I'm not knocking the kid, but that just seems like it'd be a large jump in production year-over-year
- eichiefs9

I agree to a point but about half of those 20 games he was on the 4th line hardly getting minutes

Im hoping they round that out with Bonino and Martinook.
- aecliptic

Idk. They have basically 15 forwards right now lol. You have to assume Strome goes once FA ends and a team needs a center. Maybe Gauthier? Barron? Someone has to go if they keep adding.

I think a perfect fit would be Glendening. You no longer have to worry about who can win a faceoff with him. He is literally the best in the league on faceoffs. Or Kuraly. Martinook is a winger? I think they’d need a center simply for increased depth there

4th line of Rooney, Glendening, and Blais
3rd line of Goodrow, Kreider and Gauthier

That’s a terrific bottom 6

Idk. They have basically 15 forwards right now lol. You have to assume Strome goes once FA ends and a team needs a center. Maybe Gauthier? Barron? Someone has to go if they keep adding.

I think a perfect fit would be Glendening. You no longer have to worry about who can win a faceoff with him. He is literally the best in the league on faceoffs. Or Kuraly. Martinook is a winger? I think they’d need a center simply for increased depth there
- Slimtj100

The way I see it is…
Kreider, Bonino, Goodrow
Blais, Rooney/Glendening, Martinook

The good thing about those lines is you have multiple people fully capable of winning faceoffs.

The way I see it is…
Kreider, Bonino, Goodrow
Blais, Rooney/Glendening, Martinook

The good thing about those lines is you have multiple people fully capable of winning faceoffs.
- aecliptic

IDK, man. I thought Barron looked pretty much ready for the role of 4C. I like the idea of Bonino, but I wouldn't be surprised if they wait for a while, with the market as crazy as it is right now.

oooh

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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30s
Hearing #Canes are closing in on an agreement with UFA D Tony DeAngelo.

Not done yet. But expecting a 1-year deal. There was lots of interest and the opportunity to play for Rod Brind'Amour was appealing.

@DFOHockey

IDK, man. I thought Barron looked pretty much ready for the role of 4C. I like the idea of Bonino, but I wouldn't be surprised if they wait for a while, with the market as crazy as it is right now.
- Tonybere

I feel like Barron should play 3C or play in the AHL. I cant imagine being on the 4th line is beneficial to his growth.

oooh

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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30s
Hearing #Canes are closing in on an agreement with UFA D Tony DeAngelo.

Not done yet. But expecting a 1-year deal. There was lots of interest and the opportunity to play for Rod Brind'Amour was appealing.

@DFOHockey
- jimbro83

i feel like brind'amour would personally beat his ass if he stepped out of line

i feel like brind'amour would personally beat his ass if he stepped out of line
- picklerick

Pretty much!

Pretty much!
- Fenrir

that should be in the contract. for every incident, Rod Brind'Amour gets to fist fight ADA

oooh

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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30s
Hearing #Canes are closing in on an agreement with UFA D Tony DeAngelo.

Not done yet. But expecting a 1-year deal. There was lots of interest and the opportunity to play for Rod Brind'Amour was appealing.

@DFOHockey
- jimbro83

They are gonna use him for Sebastion Aho's stick handling dummy in practice.

I feel like Barron should play 3C or play in the AHL. I cant imagine being on the 4th line is beneficial to his growth.
- aecliptic

I would bet he starts in Hartford. Getting all the minutes down there being in the top 6. There really is no need for him to be in the NHL just yet