Let's be fair here. Were the Sabres a successful and well run franchise before Eichel came along? I'd say they weren't. The list of players is a long one that have gone to Buffalo, underperformed for whatever reason, and were miserable by the time they left and just glad to be away from the franchise. Many went on to thrive elsewhere, one example being ROR.


Eichel hasnt helped the situation, but I think the more accurate depiction of the circumstances is players want out before the Sabres ruin them.
- systemtool

Id be the last person to tell you the Sabres are a well run organization, but my pet peeve is "players leave here and excel"...its just NOT true......and to the extent it IS true..the percentages are right in line with the history of the Sabres.

Ill use your example,ROR. Did he go to his new team and have a GREAT year??? yes...Cup?? yes...Conn Smythe??? yes.....have his next two years been on par with that great year or did he fall back to his usual statistically level?? His next year was EXACTLY what he was here.

and..if going to a new team and having a great first year...can we also say Jeff Skinner has "excelled" in Buffalo? His first year was superb, like OReilly, but then when taken away from his elite linemate, he fell back to the mean.

Ill give you Briere, but people forget that Drury fell apart when he left here. Okposo?? not worth the money?? sure...but how many FA signings for big money end up being so. Did Zadorov "excel"? Has Evander Kane "excelled"?

We've had our share of guys that were better here than they were at their previous team...Jokiharu for one....JP Dumont back in the day.

We can cherry pick forever. I just cant stand the "players leave here and "excel" crap, because it just isn't statistically true.

Just my pet peeve.

Eich (frank)el

Let's be fair here. Were the Sabres a successful and well run franchise before Eichel came along? I'd say they weren't. The list of players is a long one that have gone to Buffalo, underperformed for whatever reason, and were miserable by the time they left and just glad to be away from the franchise. Many went on to thrive elsewhere, one example being ROR.


Eichel hasnt helped the situation, but I think the more accurate depiction of the circumstances is players want out before the Sabres ruin them.
- systemtool

Don't you remember Leaf Killer Ryan Miller?

Id be the last person to tell you the Sabres are a well run organization, but my pet peeve is "players leave here and excel"...its just NOT true......and to the extent it IS true..the percentages are right in line with the history of the Sabres.

Ill use your example,ROR. Did he go to his new team and have a GREAT year??? yes...Cup?? yes...Conn Smythe??? yes.....have his next two years been on par with that great year or did he fall back to his usual statistically level?? His next year was EXACTLY what he was here.

and..if going to a new team and having a great first year...can we also say Jeff Skinner has "excelled" in Buffalo? His first year was superb, like OReilly, but then when taken away from his elite linemate, he fell back to the mean.

Ill give you Briere, but people forget that Drury fell apart when he left here. Okposo?? not worth the money?? sure...but how many FA signings for big money end up being so. Did Zadorov "excel"? Has Evander Kane "excelled"?

We've had our share of guys that were better here than they were at their previous team...Jokiharu for one....JP Dumont back in the day.

We can cherry pick forever. I just cant stand the "players leave here and "excel" crap, because it just isn't statistically true.

Just my pet peeve.
- Blockhead

not all do but some have. my point was more that majority of players don't seem happy in Buffalo and are glad to be out. that whatever the issue is, it goes beyond Eichel. that Eichel didn't ruin or destroy the franchise, that issues have been there for awhile now. I will concede Eichel hasn't helped the situation.

Don't you remember Leaf Killer Ryan Miller?
- Pingleheimer

Of course. these days, the Leafs find ways to kill themselves.

Besides Glotov, the last Russian we drafted out of a Russian league was Vyacheslav Buravchikov, 6th round 2005. Last time we had a prominent Russian, drafted out of a Russian league, actually play for us that we drafted? Kalinin and Afinogenov, 98 and 97.

Between the 5th pick in 2006 (Alex Biega) and 2011 1st (Joel Armia), only Canadians and Americans were drafted.

2010 and 2011 combined produced two NHLers. Pysyk and Armia.

AIDS.

not all do but some have. my point was more that majority of players don't seem happy in Buffalo and are glad to be out. that whatever the issue is, it goes beyond Eichel. that Eichel didn't ruin or destroy the franchise, that issues have been there for awhile now. I will concede Eichel hasn't helped the situation.
- systemtool

Buffalo just isn't a very exciting place to do coke. Or so I'm told.

Besides Glotov, the last Russian we drafted out of a Russian league was Vyacheslav Buravchikov, 6th round 2005. Last time we had a prominent Russian, drafted out of a Russian league, actually play for us that we drafted? Kalinin and Afinogenov, 98 and 97.

Between the 5th pick in 2006 (Alex Biega) and 2011 1st (Joel Armia), only Canadians and Americans were drafted.

2010 and 2011 combined produced two NHLers. Pysyk and Armia.

AIDS.
- TheSabresTaco

Is grigorenko Russian?

Is grigorenko Russian?
- dmarsden2988

He was playing for the Remparts when we drafted him. Zadorov was out of London.

Suzuki and CAufield are on teh table for Habs and Eichel.

Ben Chariot is not. SAbres want Chariot

Suzuki and CAufield are on teh table for Habs and Eichel.

Ben Chariot is not. SAbres want Chariot
- ImThatGuy

Who verified that they're both on the table? Cause that's massive. Besides e5'er.

Suzuki and CAufield are on teh table for Habs and Eichel.

Ben Chariot is not. SAbres want Chariot
- ImThatGuy

Suzuki and CAufield are on teh table for Habs and Eichel.

Ben Chariot is not. SAbres want Chariot
- ImThatGuy

Keep listening to WGR it’s bad info

Keep listening to WGR it’s bad info
- gibby111

It dint come from WGR it came from Geno Insidietta.

Who verified that they're both on the table? Cause that's massive. Besides e5'er.
- TheSabresTaco

Geno Insidietta
@GenoManager
·
20h
Per
@DarrenDreger
, #GoHabsGo are in talks with #LetsGoBuffalo regarding C Jack Eichel.

Im hearing the Sabres are demanding LHD Ben Chiarot, but after a dominant playoff run, the Canadiens are unwilling to part with him.

Suzuki and Caufield both remain on the table.

https://twitter.com/GenoM...tatus/1419344754974789633

Geno Insidietta
@GenoManager
·
20h
Per
@DarrenDreger
, #GoHabsGo are in talks with #LetsGoBuffalo regarding C Jack Eichel.

Im hearing the Sabres are demanding LHD Ben Chiarot, but after a dominant playoff run, the Canadiens are unwilling to part with him.

Suzuki and Caufield both remain on the table.

https://twitter.com/GenoM...tatus/1419344754974789633
- ImThatGuy

It’s a joke tweet

Geno Insidietta
@GenoManager
·
20h
Per
@DarrenDreger
, #GoHabsGo are in talks with #LetsGoBuffalo regarding C Jack Eichel.

Im hearing the Sabres are demanding LHD Ben Chiarot, but after a dominant playoff run, the Canadiens are unwilling to part with him.

Suzuki and Caufield both remain on the table.

https://twitter.com/GenoM...tatus/1419344754974789633
- ImThatGuy

The other tweets are quite humorous.

It’s a joke tweet
- sbroads24

Now this is a joke tweet! 😅😅😅

I would LITERALLY pay ANYTHING to get Jack Eichel on the Habs.

Only untouchables I can think of are Suzuki, Caufield, Kotkaniemi, Romanov, Drouin, Armia, Weber, Chiarot, Edmundson, Petry, Kulak, Toffoli, Perry, Staal, Evans, Byron, Lehkonen, Farrell, Kidney, Roy, Price and Allen

https://twitter.com/GenoM.../1419529962466553859?s=19

It’s a joke tweet
- sbroads24

But this is how i get my inside information.

I got duped, but now im going to pretend like i know something.

Sorry folkes, false alarm. Carry on.

But now im goign to continue to pretend i have sources.

not all do but some have. my point was more that majority of players don't seem happy in Buffalo and are glad to be out. that whatever the issue is, it goes beyond Eichel. that Eichel didn't ruin or destroy the franchise, that issues have been there for awhile now. I will concede Eichel hasn't helped the situation.
- systemtool

Ive always said that's why we have to catch lightning in a bottle while guys are unable to move.

If I was a 24 year old, multi millionaire, professional athlete, Buffalo would be pretty far down on my list of cities to live.

Take Reinhart....South Beach vs. Sunset Bay. lol

It dint come from WGR it came from Geno Insidietta.
- ImThatGuy

Whatever, give them a 4th for him, get the (frank)ing work done, it's time to move on.

Whatever, give them a 4th for him, get the (frank)ing work done, it's time to move on.
- TheSabresTaco

It probaly is. It showed up on my feed and i just reacted probably just because im over thie whole Eichel thing and just want it to be over with.

Nice read Hank. I don't see it happening, but weirder things have happened.

Hank Balling: Is It Feasible For Eichel to Remain A Sabre?
- Hank Balling

No