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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 26 @ 10:13 AM ET
Why would he or the team want a 1 year deal
- ClaudeFather


Neither party would want a 1 year. For the Flyers, Hart then becomes a UFA after only a year. That would be dumb. For Hart, he'd find it more difficult to get a big payday after a terrible year and presumably only one good year behind him. A 2 year trial with good success would make him imminently more valuable.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:15 AM ET
Neither party would want a 1 year. For the Flyers, Hart then becomes a UFA after only a year. That would be dumb. For Hart, he'd find it more difficult to get a big payday after a terrible year and presumably only one good year behind him. A 2 year trial with good success would make him imminently more valuable.
- Letterkenney

Some of the questions on here are unbelievable
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 10:17 AM ET
Would still like to see JVR flipped for a 3C if possible. Frost coming off an injury and stepping into that role raises some concerns for me. Much rather see him start on the wing.

And our other bottom 6 center at the moment would be Laughton, right? I don’t think any of these other guys play center.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 26 @ 10:22 AM ET
Would still like to see JVR flipped for a 3C if possible. Frost coming off an injury and stepping into that role raises some concerns for me. Much rather see him start on the wing.

And our other bottom 6 center at the moment would be Laughton, right? I don’t think any of these other guys play center.

- hereticpride


Personally, I feel like Frost should be playing LW. If somehow JVR got moved for a 3rd C, then either Lindbolm or Frost could play wing and then the other on the 4rth.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:22 AM ET
Neither party would want a 1 year. For the Flyers, Hart then becomes a UFA after only a year. That would be dumb. For Hart, he'd find it more difficult to get a big payday after a terrible year and presumably only one good year behind him. A 2 year trial with good success would make him imminently more valuable.
- Letterkenney


A bridge deal of 3 years would be fine for Hart. I wouldn't be saying here's a 1 yr deal. Last chance to prove yourself kid or you're out the door.. at 23..
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
A bridge deal of 3 years would be fine for Hart. I wouldn't be saying here's a 1 yr deal. Last chance to prove yourself kid or you're out the door.. at 23..
- Hextall271

There is zero chance of a 1 year deal
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
Personally, I feel like Frost should be playing LW. If somehow JVR got moved for a 3rd C, then either Lindbolm or Frost could play wing and then the other on the 4rth.
- Deasr1


I really want to see how Frost is after the injury/offseason. Skilled but that cat has to put some meat on him. I think he'd get crushed on the walls as a winger. Hoping he brings it this year.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:25 AM ET
Would still like to see JVR flipped for a 3C if possible. Frost coming off an injury and stepping into that role raises some concerns for me. Much rather see him start on the wing.

And our other bottom 6 center at the moment would be Laughton, right? I don’t think any of these other guys play center.

- hereticpride

One other option would be G centering the middle 6, probably not ideal but always a fallback
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 26 @ 10:27 AM ET
Would still like to see JVR flipped for a 3C if possible. Frost coming off an injury and stepping into that role raises some concerns for me. Much rather see him start on the wing.

And our other bottom 6 center at the moment would be Laughton, right? I don’t think any of these other guys play center.

- hereticpride


I think you have to pencil Frost in and hope he's ready.

G-Coots-Allison
JVR-Frost-Atkinson
Farabee-Hayes-TK
Lindblom-Laughton-NAK
-(Free agent), Lazcynski/Lycksell/Sandin

Definitely need to look at a cheap, versatile forward. I really think Freddy Gaudreau is a great option if the Leafs don't resign him.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
One other option would be G centering the middle 6, probably not ideal but always a fallback
- ClaudeFather


Most ignoring Tanner being a legitimate center and a chance he pushes for 3C.

Agree that slotting down Claude to3C is an option and given his age and his legs losing some pop...may not be a bad idea to get some younger legs in the top 6.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
OK, is Morin still a Flyer or not? I haven’t heard anything about us resigning him but his name is still Floating around here
- SuperSchennBros


cf thinks they will resign him -- I believe he said they were working on it
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 26 @ 10:33 AM ET


Definitely need to look at a cheap, versatile forward. I really think Freddy Gaudreau is a great option if the Leafs don't resign him.

- mochoson


Just learned EDM didn't qualify Jujhar Khaira. That's another option for sure.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
cf thinks they will resign him -- I believe he said they were working on it
- corduroy


Good news. Imagine if Risto pans out as being effective and Morin comes back strong? Serious bruisers on 2nd and 3rd pairs if you wanted that lineup.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Most ignoring Tanner being a legitimate center and a chance he pushes for 3C.

Agree that slotting down Claude to3C is an option and given his age and his legs losing some pop...may not be a bad idea to get some younger legs in the top 6.

- juiced


Highly unlikely Giroux is at center unless there's multiple injuries.

I do think you're correct Laczynski being a little slept on. I think either him or Frost will be a center in our top 9. This of course would push Frost to a wing.

G-Coots-Farabee
JVR-Lazcynski-Atkinson
Frost-Hayes-TK
Lindblom-Laughton-Allison

I actually don't hate how this looks on paper.


black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Edit: quotes not working - in response to SSB question regarding Morin…

In a presser Fletcher made it clear that Morin is going to be apart of things moving forward in some capacity. I think he’s just making it his very last move to make sure the money works.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Just learned EDM didn't qualify Jujhar Khaira. That's another option for sure.
- mochoson

I’d consider it, probably a concussion away from retirement but
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
Got to remember too, Fletcher said he wants a depth forward who can kill penalties. So any guy would need to bring that element.

Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jul 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
Seems to me the 7D should be an experienced and reliable Dman who preferably can play either side to some degree. Also needs to be able to fill in 3-4 games in a row if injuries dictate it. I know Morin will be cheap but really don’t see him as an ideal option. Last season he was physically incapable of playing 2 games in a row. Has that changed?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
Highly unlikely Giroux is at center unless there's multiple injuries.

I do think you're correct Laczynski being a little slept on. I think either him or Frost will be a center in our top 9. This of course would push Frost to a wing.

G-Coots-Farabee
JVR-Lazcynski-Atkinson
Frost-Hayes-TK
Lindblom-Laughton-Allison

I actually don't hate how this looks on paper.

- mochoson


Our forward lines don't look bad but someone mentioned, may get pushed around. What we always see is how the rules change for playoffs. We'd need to bulk up with a couple of strong 3rd 4th liners (a la 2020 playoffs with Thompson and Grant). You run into the Isles, you'll need it.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
He is a UFA but Fletcher says he fully intends to sign him and they are close to a deal.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Jul 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
Blake Coleman and Jon Bernier
Are my Drunk Gm signings.

Looking forward to another day of scintillating arguments over absolute minutia from a bunch of Drunk and high armchair GMS that got absolutely nothing right.

Sorry to bust the bubble, Frost will not make it back. Career AHLer
This, I unfortunately got from my Tarot cards hope cards are wrong.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
Our forward lines don't look bad but someone mentioned, may get pushed around. What we always see is how the rules change for playoffs. We'd need to bulk up with a couple of strong 3rd 4th liners (a la 2020 playoffs with Thompson and Grant). You run into the Isles, you'll need it.
- Hextall271

Can’t sign guys like that, they can’t play. Changing your game for specific teams is never a good idea. Not a very physical forward group but if we can play fast and hard we will be fine .
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Right now little over 12 million. Just my guesses, maybe a little high but siding with caution.
Hart gets 5
Sanheim 3
Morin 1
Back up goalie 1-2

Leaving 1-2 million in cap space for a 12/13 forward w jamm

- Fopa21



Sanheim gets 4.25-4.5 (NO WAY he takes a pay cut)
Hart gets 3-3.5 on a bridge deal
Morin 1
Backup goalie 1.5-2


arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Blake Coleman and Jon Bernier
Are my Drunk Gm signings.

Looking forward to another day of scintillating arguments over absolute minutia from a bunch of Drunk and high armchair GMS that got absolutely nothing right.

Sorry to bust the bubble, Frost will not make it back. Career AHLer
This, I unfortunately got from my Tarot cards hope cards are wrong.

- konalover711


Did your daily Horoscope at least bring you some positive vibes today?
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jul 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
Well if we need a Cam York type because he's not ready, I would get Ghost. And if we need a cheapo #6/#7 d-man, how about Haag?
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