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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
Oh yea, set. I must have fell asleep and missed the ascension and coronation of the Flyers as league hierarchy. Didn't realize that they're set. They didn't keep all of their good young players. As far as going all in, you aren't following the conversation.
- MJL


they kept all their good young players.....fact
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:35 PM ET
Sbisa of course.
- MJL


Clearly Fletch doesn't give a (frank) anymore... Jack Johnson, Luka Sbisa, Codi Ceci, Luke Schenn, bring 'em all on board, let's go!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
they kept all their good young players.....fact
- bradster


That may be your opinion but certainly not a fact.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
Sbisa of course.
- MJL


That is just not funny.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
Clearly Fletch doesn't give a (frank) anymore... Jack Johnson, Luka Sbisa, Codi Ceci, Luke Schenn, bring 'em all on board, let's go!
- Tomahawk


Fletcher is just doing what he has to do to keep his job. I don't blame him.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
That may be your opinion but certainly not a fact.
- MJL


its the consensus fact.....
not only did we keep all our good young players, we are a much better team.....things are looking good.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
If the Flyers are smart, they put players like Frost and York in the lineup and leave them there. Unless they're completely overwhelmed, which I don't think will be the case.
- MJL


Hate to break it to you, but the Flyers very clearly are not smart.

There may be some smart people in the organization, but nobody's listening to them anymore.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 6:37 PM ET
its the consensus fact.....
not only did we keep all our good young players, we are a much better team.....things are looking good.

- bradster


No, it's not a consensus fact.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
No, it's not a consensus fact.
- MJL


yup lol
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
Clearly Fletch doesn't give a (frank) anymore... Jack Johnson, Luka Sbisa, Codi Ceci, Luke Schenn, bring 'em all on board, let's go!
- Tomahawk


All messing around aside. Schenn has won the cup. And recently. So serviceable still.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:42 PM ET
Fletcher is just doing what he has to do to keep his job. I don't blame him.
- MJL


Minnesota all over again.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:43 PM ET
No, it's not a consensus fact.
- MJL


tell me what stellar young player they lost? And how you can justify they are good? Patrick, awful. Meyers, more bad games than good. Horrible last year. Hagg, easily replaceble. They lost no one that moves the needle thats for sure. So you saying we are setup to fail (not a quote, because i know you will try to correct me, but that was the jist) because we are getting rid of our good young players is total hyperbole, and just flat our wrong. We havent lost any of our good young kids, and made our team much better.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jul 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
Hate to break it to you, but the Flyers very clearly are not smart.

There may be some smart people in the organization, but nobody's listening to them anymore.

- Tomahawk


Big, if true.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 26 @ 6:45 PM ET
Hate to break it to you, but the Flyers very clearly are not smart.

There may be some smart people in the organization, but nobody's listening to them anymore.

- Tomahawk


Of the Flyers current prospects, including players that haven’t reach the rookie game amount, who are your favorites? Who are you most excited to see play for the Flyers (hopefully)?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:46 PM ET
Of the Flyers current prospects, including players that haven’t reach the rookie game amount, who are your favorites? Who are you most excited to see play for the Flyers (hopefully)?
- NC Flyers Fan


Attard, and Forester for sure, and DEsnoyer looked good last year, i only saw 3 games, but i liked what i saw. I have doubts about Brink, i hope he can turn it around.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
Of the Flyers current prospects, including players that haven’t reach the rookie game amount, who are your favorites? Who are you most excited to see play for the Flyers (hopefully)?
- NC Flyers Fan


I think Atkinson will be good for brink. Wisdom with his season last year. Tyson just due to the cannon. O brien just to see how he’s developed and the new Samu. Glad we finally drafted someone who has breakaway speed.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
No, it's not a consensus fact.
- MJL


Where is the consensus report?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
I think Atkinson will be good for brink. Wisdom with his season last year. Tyson just due to the cannon. O brien just to see how he’s developed and the new Samu. Glad we finally drafted someone who has breakaway speed.
- Peter Richards


I havent seen any Obrien, but i know JD250 has been pumping his tires, so i hope he is right.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 6:57 PM ET
Where is the consensus report?
- Peter Richards


got it right here
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
got it right here
- bradster

Lol
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
anyone who is trying to say we gave up good young players this offseason is (frank)ing delusional lol
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 26 @ 7:06 PM ET
Anyone else take a little comfort in knowing that….even if we lose instead of watching ghost avoiding checks Risto will be leveling people.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 26 @ 7:09 PM ET
Anyone else take a little comfort in knowing that….even if we lose instead of watching ghost avoiding checks Risto will be leveling people.
- Peter Richards


i do, hes my kind of player......hope he does well here and we resign him
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
Yup, and he was a high 2nd round pick, and BTW, this or something like this happens with most picks, which is why its silly to lament trading one now and then to get an actual good player in here!
- jd250



Every nhl ~have to build through the draft

Flyers fan~ Tried to give example of something happening to higher draft pick failing to justified picks vs players arguement but ACTUALLY makes a stronger argument for not getting rid of picks and needing more picks.

Laughable
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
I don't disagree, however I wonder if we have enough in our bottom 6. Right now potential lines could be:

Couturier - Giroux - Atkinson
Hayes - Farabee - Konecny
Frost - JVR - Laughton
Laczynski - Allison - Lindblom

Extras: NAK, Ratcliff

I would say Frost and Laczynski are unknowns right now. I suppose the Flyers can start the season with them and see how they do, and then if needed make a trade for a center, but you have to at least acknowledge there is potential hole here at either 3C or 4C.

As far as thinking this is not a cup team, I really don't want Fletcher to have that attitude coming into the season. The Flyers have all the ingredients to be a real cup contender, experienced coaching, a good goalie, a really good defense now thanks to Fletcher's trades, and a very deep forward group. I'm all for giving some kids a chance, but if they falter I want Fletcher to go all in on bringing in a player that can really solidify this group further and enable the Flyers to seriously contend.

- jd250



Oh that explains it all. You don’t know coots is a center and farabee is a wing. It all makes sense now
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