Is it really that absurd? I mean I know he’s “4th line center” but I’d argue his importance with special teams, face offs in all zones, and centering the most effective offensive zone entry line on the team. If Cizikas is on any other NHL team I think 4 per is more palatable.
- kindlyrick

Yes. Yes it is.

Love Cizikas. He’s been a great 4C for the organization. But he’s not exceptional, nor should he command that kind of coin. I mean that’s damn near the same contract as Pageau, and Pageau is twice the player that Cizikas is.

2 years @ 3.25, or 4 years @ 2.75 is as high as I’d go. If that’s not enough, then I’d look elsewhere and wish Casey the best.

It's not absurd, but it's going to make things get a little tighter a little quicker
- eichiefs9

I hear you, I just feel like Cizikas is super important to the success of this club, and his pay will reflect as much. I guess we will find out how tight soon enough

I have a lot of time for Nick Ritchie as a 3LW also. Heavy game, some skill there too. He'd fit nicely on a Pageau/Wahlstrom line
- eichiefs9

I think it would work very well as a 3rd line. Toughness and skill.

Yes. Yes it is.

Love Cizikas. He’s been a great 4C for the organization. But he’s not exceptional, nor should he command that kind of coin. I mean that’s damn near the same contract as Pageau, and Pageau is twice the player that Cizikas is.

2 years @ 3.25, or 4 years @ 2.75 is as high as I’d go. If that’s not enough, then I’d look elsewhere and wish Casey the best.
- Wildschwein

I agree schwein. Your offers above is more than fair.

Islanders have to trade hickey and komarov to create more space.

Yes. Yes it is.

Love Cizikas. He’s been a great 4C for the organization. But he’s not exceptional, nor should he command that kind of coin. I mean that’s damn near the same contract as Pageau, and Pageau is twice the player that Cizikas is.

2 years @ 3.25, or 4 years @ 2.75 is as high as I’d go. If that’s not enough, then I’d look elsewhere and wish Casey the best.
- Wildschwein

I dont think 4 per is reflective of an exceptional player, but rather a true 3C, who does it all. The difference between 3.25 and 4 per is a Michael Dal Colle......see ya MDC

Emily Kaplan @emilymkaplan
now
NEWS: The Chicago Blackhawks are in late stages of trade talks to acquire Vegas Golden Knights goalie Marc Andre Fleury in a trade, sources tell ESPN.

I agree schwein. Your offers above is more than fair.
- ses111

I dont think fair rears its head at the negiotiating table with a guy who would take a puck to the face and continue playing. Someones value is what someones willing to pay.

That "4th line" is the reason this isles team has had this much success without many elite names.

I dont think fair rears its head at the negiotiating table with a guy who would take a puck to the face and continue playing. Someones value is what someones willing to pay.
- kindlyrick

If you are going to give 4 Mill to Casey good luck adding a much needed scoring forward. You cannot give 4th line players crazy contract during the Cap era.

It was Barry system and teaching the team real defense that led to the turnaround.

I dont think 4 per is reflective of an exceptional player, but rather a true 3C, who does it all. The difference between 3.25 and 4 per is Michael Dal Colle......see ya MDC
- kindlyrick

Well yeah, but I’m suggesting 3.25 for 2 years. Staple is saying 4 for 4/5 years.

I wanna keep Casey, don’t get me wrong. But I also think players like Getzlaf, Bonino, Nosek and Bozak could do the same job for less coin than 4 years @ 4 per.

Well yeah, but I’m suggesting 3.25 for 2 years. Staple is saying 4 for 4/5 years.

I wanna keep Casey, don’t get me wrong. But I also think players like Getzlaf, Bonino, Nosek and Bozak could do the same job for less coin than 4 years @ 4 per.
- Wildschwein

Cannot believe the need to even point out paying Casey 4 Mill is not a good idea.

If you are going to give 4 Mill to Casey good luck adding a much needed scoring forward. You cannot give 4th line players crazy contract during the Cap era.

It was Barry system and teaching the team real defense that led to the turnaround.
- ses111

We can agree to disagree, but my gut tells me they offer him 4 per and to me thats fair. Those kind of numbers dont sting as much when you dont have those albatross contracts on the books like Ladd, Hickey, Komorov etc. Casey is not a 4th line player, and thats where I think we disagree.

Nick Bonino makes 4 per and id say thats a fair market value comparison.

Emily Kaplan @emilymkaplan
now
NEWS: The Chicago Blackhawks are in late stages of trade talks to acquire Vegas Golden Knights goalie Marc Andre Fleury in a trade, sources tell ESPN.
- eichiefs9

Well that would be fun. I can only imagine the ridiculous sum Bowman will pony up in such a deal.

Well yeah, but I’m suggesting 3.25 for 2 years. Staple is saying 4 for 4/5 years.

I wanna keep Casey, don’t get me wrong. But I also think players like Getzlaf, Bonino, Nosek and Bozak could do the same job for less coin than 4 years @ 4 per.
- Wildschwein

Bonino makes 4 per. To be honest, and not to sound like a homer, but Id rather Cizikas than any of the above mentioned.

Well that would be fun. I can only imagine the ridiculous sum Bowman will pony up in such a deal.
- Wildschwein

Nothing. Literally nothing

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Fleury to Chicago. No salary retained. Nothing going back to Vegas.

Don't think we've ever seen the reigning Vezina winner traded for literally nothing before

Any idea on the return for vegas.

Any idea on the return for vegas.
- Hockeyislife

Checking with my sources now

We can agree to disagree, but my gut tells me they offer him 4 per and to me thats fair. Those kind of numbers dont sting as much when you dont have those albatross contracts on the books like Ladd, Hickey, Komorov etc. Casey is not a 4th line player, and thats where I think we disagree.

Nick Bonino makes 4 per and id say thats a fair market value comparison.
- kindlyrick

True, but that was prior to the pandemic.

The coin and term that Stastny just agreed to is more reflective of the market today.

True, but that was prior to the pandemic.

The coin and term that Stastny just agreed to is more reflective of the market today.
- Wildschwein

Statsny signing for basically what Goodrow signed for is hilarious to me. That one probably works against Casey

Nothing. Literally nothing

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
Fleury to Chicago. No salary retained. Nothing going back to Vegas.

Don't think we've ever seen the reigning Vezina winner traded for literally nothing before
- eichiefs9

You’ve gotta be (frank)ing kidding!?! 😳

Vegas must have another deal in place for a C.

True, but that was prior to the pandemic.

The coin and term that Stastny just agreed to is more reflective of the market today.
- Wildschwein

We've all watched hockey long enough to realize you gotta give to get. You cant ask a guy to lead every game, win every draw, block every shot, etc etc etc and then ask him to do you the favor and take less than fair market value. Not ideal to pay a guy 4 million on the 4th line, but that line really isnt the 4th line, so theres that.

You’ve gotta be (frank)ing kidding!?! 😳

Vegas must have another deal in place for a C.
- Wildschwein

Now LeBrun saying they're getting Mikael Hakkarainen...who was a 5th round pick in 2018 and appears to be splitting time between the ECHL and AHL. So....basically nothing

We've all watched hockey long enough to realize you gotta give to get. You cant ask a guy to lead every game, win every draw, block every shot, etc etc etc and then ask him to do you the favor and take less than fair market value. Not ideal to pay a guy 4 million on the 4th line, but that line really isnt the 4th line, so theres that.
- kindlyrick

We shall have to agree to disagree my friend.

Jesse Granger
@JesseGranger_
A source close to Marc-Andre Fleury says that the trade is done, and that the Vezina Trophy winner found out through Twitter.



Also:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
One thing to watch here: there were rumblings Marc-Andre Fleury might choose to retire if traded from Vegas — for family reasons. Not certain how it will all play out.

Now LeBrun saying they're getting Mikael Hakkarainen...who was a 5th round pick in 2018 and appears to be splitting time between the ECHL and AHL. So....basically nothing
- eichiefs9

Well I’ll be damned.