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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
I would put Krebs in the Cozens category

But even show him and 2 late firsts are not nearly enough

Krebs, Tuch and 2 late firsts are an okay package but I would want a 2nd high end prospect, hence the third team option

- Stripes77


Morozov.
Rsh
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.23.2021

Jul 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
To pairo you an English teacher? You are another skirt who thinks he is a man poking fun at other !! Like to see you and taco skirt on the ice and see you both run your mouth and back it up!!! But more than likely you both never played hockey!!
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:25 PM ET
Anaheim continues to explore the trade market on C Adam Henrique, who seems open to a change of scenery. 3-years left on his deal at $5.825M AAV

https://twitter.com/TheFo.../1420109218829455374?s=19
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 27 @ 4:26 PM ET
Dan Dunleavy
@Dan_Dunleavy
·
3m
Rasmus Ristolainen tells
@SiriusXMNHL
he had mixed emotions when he got the trade call. He enjoyed his time in #Buffalo. Loved the city and the people. Thanked ownership, trainers, therapists for everything. #Buffalo will always be in his heart.


Risto as a person is going to be missed.

- Stripes77



Yes, absolutely

Now do Sam


These are the types of things that do not show up analytically 👍
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:26 PM ET
Odds on favorite to win the Eichel sweepstakes imo is Vegas then Montreal. I don't see Minnesota, LA or Anaheim making a serious push. Vegas and Montreal are in a better position to win now.

Just how it seems to be going lately.

- sabresfan69


Only way Mtl is in a position to win now is another short season in a North conference. They just lost Weber for next year, probably more, and Price might miss the majority of the season. If Denault walks, there goes their defensive ace, and while Caufield and Suziki are good, I don't think they can win in an arms race against the big boys of the league quite yet. Conversely, Minny is in a decent spot to make some noise if they get Eichel.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
Only way Mtl is in a position to win now is another short season in a North conference. They just lost Weber for next year, probably more, and Price might miss the majority of the season. If Denault walks, there goes their defensive ace, and while Caufield and Suziki are good, I don't think they can win in an arms race against the big boys of the league quite yet. Conversely, Minny is in a decent spot to make some noise if they get Eichel.
- SDSabre

I don't see Montreal feeling the same way you do. They aren't going to sit idly by while others improve.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
I would put Krebs in the Cozens category

But even show him and 2 late firsts are not nearly enough

Krebs, Tuch and 2 late firsts are an okay package but I would want a 2nd high end prospect, hence the third team option

- Stripes77


I dont see a team giving up a package of

Tuch
Krebs
another high end prospect
2022 1st
2023 1st.


That is overestimating the return we are going to receive for him. Especially in a salary cap era - thats running flat for years
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 4:29 PM ET
I dont see a team giving up a package of

Tuch
Krebs
another high end prospect
2022 1st
2023 1st.


That is overestimating the return we are going to receive for him. Especially in a salary cap era - thats running flat for years

- Mentalorgasm5


You really think with a new franchise and a new TV deal the cap will be flat for years?
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:34 PM ET
Only way Mtl is in a position to win now is another short season in a North conference. They just lost Weber for next year, probably more, and Price might miss the majority of the season. If Denault walks, there goes their defensive ace, and while Caufield and Suziki are good, I don't think they can win in an arms race against the big boys of the league quite yet. Conversely, Minny is in a decent spot to make some noise if they get Eichel.
- SDSabre


All the more reason to get the best package from MTL. Higher draft picks for us, We get to boo him several times a year, and the arch enemy of his hometown Bruins. Not to mention tremendously high taxes....
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:36 PM ET
I don't see Montreal feeling the same way you do. They aren't going to sit idly by well others improve.
- sabresfan69


I didn't say that, I'm saying that they aren't in this great win now position. They are for sure down 2 of their 5 best playoff performers, possibly 3 in Denault. They were barely in the playoffs in the weakest division, while the Wild were firmly in the playoffs in a much tougher division. Montreal had the lowest point totals of any playoff team, and had a losing record last year.. They went 24-21-11, and caught lightning in a bottle in the playoffs. They aren't by any stretch in a win now window.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:37 PM ET
All the more reason to get the best package from MTL. Higher draft picks for us, We get to boo him several times a year, and the arch enemy of his hometown Bruins. Not to mention tremendously high taxes....
- atlsabsfan


If they give the best package, I'm all for it. I just highly doubt they will.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Only way Mtl is in a position to win now is another short season in a North conference. They just lost Weber for next year, probably more, and Price might miss the majority of the season. If Denault walks, there goes their defensive ace, and while Caufield and Suziki are good, I don't think they can win in an arms race against the big boys of the league quite yet. Conversely, Minny is in a decent spot to make some noise if they get Eichel.
- SDSabre


Marc Bergevin mentions that he doesn’t expect to see Shea Weber back next season and probably longer. On Carey Price injuries. Nothing alarming according to the @CanadiensMTL GM but he could be out 6 to 8 weeks.

https://twitter.com/renla.../1418225943097733132?s=19
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:52 PM ET
Marc Bergevin mentions that he doesn’t expect to see Shea Weber back next season and probably longer. On Carey Price injuries. Nothing alarming according to the @CanadiensMTL GM but he could be out 6 to 8 weeks.

https://twitter.com/renla.../1418225943097733132?s=19

- kingcong39


Gotcha. Even so, he was Carey Price in the playoffs, but was not that great in the regular season. I just don't think they are drastically in a win now type of window.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:55 PM ET
If we took Johnson from Tampa no salary retained could we get cirelli and a pick?
With all the cap space would be interesting to see if Adams could pull that off.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 27 @ 4:55 PM ET
Gotcha. Even so, he was Carey Price in the playoffs, but was not that great in the regular season. I just don't think they are drastically in a win now type of window.
- SDSabre

No one said that though, its like you are arguing just to argue
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Do you guys ever use the Cap Central tab on the site? It's good. Take a look at the UFA List for 2022. Holy S, try not to cream your jeans. I understand a lot can change between now and then, but Sabres will be in a position to back up the Brinks trucks. The Dynasty is right around the corner.
c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

Jul 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Gotcha. Even so, he was Carey Price in the playoffs, but was not that great in the regular season. I just don't think they are drastically in a win now type of window.
- SDSabre

Well they were in the Cup this year. Unless they thought it was a fluke, they are in a win now situation and a #1 center might get them over the hump.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
If we took Johnson from Tampa no salary retained could we get cirelli and a pick?
With all the cap space would be interesting to see if Adams could pull that off.

- Sabres1523


Not a chance

Cirelli is basically an untouchable without having a NMC

We could get Johnson and a 2nd though if he would waive his NTC
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
Not a chance

Cirelli is basically an untouchable without having a NMC

We could get Johnson and a 2nd though if he would waive his NTC

- Stripes77


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
Well they were in the Cup this year. Unless they thought it was a fluke, they are in a win now situation and a #1 center might get them over the hump.
- c1067


This for sure.

Everyone in the habs organization is building off the Stanley cup appearance.

Absolutely trying to win now.
Most teams do, except .....





B-lo
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
This for sure.

Everyone in the habs organization is building off the Stanley cup appearance.

Absolutely trying to win now.
Most teams do, except .....





B-lo

- Boss34


The only issue I can see is it was a complete fluke.

They were the last team to sneak in the playoffs and only because they played in the "North" division. Now they have to play in the toughest division in hockey, Carey Price who carried them through the playoffs is having surgery, and we all know how hard it is for a goalie to carry a team.

If anything they're more likely a bottom 10 team than a contender. This is exactly why I want an unprotected 1st from them if they trade Eichel to Montreal
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 27 @ 5:09 PM ET

Joe McDonald
@JoeyMacHockey
· 4m
Back from vacation (golfing every day was epic) and now hearing the Bruins are interested in the services of goalie Linus Ullmark.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
No one said that though, its like you are arguing just to argue
- sabresfan69


You said Mtl was in more of a win now then Minnesota. I disagreed, gave you my interpretation of why I disagreed, and based upon what each team would have to give up for an Eichel trade (Suzuki for Mtl, a current player vs Rossi a guy who didn’t play) is hardly arguing to argue. It’s a message board man. If me saying literally the team that finished with 16 less points and 11 less wins in a 56 game season is not in a better spot to trade for Eichel, and this offends you, then I apologize.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
To skirt taco you are one that runs his mouth behind a keyboard?? You are a skirt candy ^*^? Fill in the blanks!!!
- Rsh


I is 2 sterpud 2 fil blanks
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
The only issue I can see is it was a complete fluke.

They were the last team to sneak in the playoffs and only because they played in the "North" division. Now they have to play in the toughest division in hockey, Carey Price who carried them through the playoffs is having surgery, and we all know how hard it is for a goalie to carry a team.

If anything they're more likely a bottom 10 team than a contender. This is exactly why I want an unprotected 1st from them if they trade Eichel to Montreal

- Stripes77



I completely agree. Very flukey cup run. Tough division.

I thought the question was : Do you think Montreal believes they can win? Or something close.

I absolutely believe bergevin and the decision makers go all in next year. The press and pressure of montreal added in as well.

Won if habs fans have faith is the Sabres winning the 1st OA again? 🤔


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