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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 3:58 PM ET
Ok, no need to yell and get all defensive. Just asking a question. Jeez.
- Isleshockeyman

I'm not, I was just a little confused and posting the reasoning

Goligoski won't produce as much offense as Leddy did. But also...Leddy wasn't a huge point producer and Goligoski is no slouch in that dept. He had 9 less points than Leddy last season (same amount of GP) averaging over a minute less on the PP per game than Nick.

He's definitely a better defender, too. I think he'd be an upgrade over Leddy for sure.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 3:58 PM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
41s
The Stars are pushing hard to sign Ryan Suter to a multi-year deal. We'll see if they can get to the finish line.


Going to assume we're out on this one
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:59 PM ET
Landeskog 7x7 with avs on the table per Freidman
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:04 PM ET
I'm not, I was just a little confused and posting the reasoning

Goligoski won't produce as much offense as Leddy did. But also...Leddy wasn't a huge point producer and Goligoski is no slouch in that dept. He had 9 less points than Leddy last season (same amount of GP) averaging over a minute less on the PP per game than Nick.

He's definitely a better defender, too. I think he'd be an upgrade over Leddy for sure.

- eichiefs9

I was just asking because you usually have the answers to point production, TOI, cap space, etc. And kinda bustin' balls a little.
Seriously though, Leddy was ~40 points per season and Goly ~ 30pps. The last 3 seasons though, Goly had more points than Leddy.
I'd be fine with Goligoski as well, like you said, at the right price. Certainly don't want him at $5m per. Thinking maybe $2.5 x 2years.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:05 PM ET
Landeskog 7x7 with avs on the table per Freidman
- kindlyrick

Sh!t. If that is the case, consider Landy off the market. He was wanting at least 6 years from Colorado from what I heard.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:06 PM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
41s
The Stars are pushing hard to sign Ryan Suter to a multi-year deal. We'll see if they can get to the finish line.


Going to assume we're out on this one

- eichiefs9

Say goodnight, Gracie. Suter gone.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 4:11 PM ET
I was just asking because you usually have the answers to point production, TOI, cap space, etc. And kinda bustin' balls a little.
Seriously though, Leddy was ~40 points per season and Goly ~ 30pps. The last 3 seasons though, Goly had more points than Leddy.
I'd be fine with Goligoski as well, like you said, at the right price. Certainly don't want him at $5m per. Thinking maybe $2.5 x 2years.

- Isleshockeyman

I'd be doing cartwheels for Golly at $2.5x2

I'm fine losing a touch of offensive production for a big leap in defensive competency. Anything that makes the Isles harder to play against/score on is a win for me.

I know it's going to end up being Parise, but I'd really love to bring in someone like Nick Ritchie for the 3rd line. Him, Pageau, and Wahlstrom would speedbag other teams lower lines with a nice combo of skill, defense, and physicality
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 4:12 PM ET
Say goodnight, Gracie. Suter gone.
- Isleshockeyman


Kinda sorta disappointed. But not really.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'd be doing cartwheels for Golly at $2.5x2

I'm fine losing a touch of offensive production for a big leap in defensive competency. Anything that makes the Isles harder to play against/score on is a win for me.

I know it's going to end up being Parise, but I'd really love to bring in someone like Nick Ritchie for the 3rd line. Him, Pageau, and Wahlstrom would speedbag other teams lower lines with a nice combo of skill, defense, and physicality

- eichiefs9


I know $2.5 is a little low. Look at it this way though. He got that last deal when GM's were handing out bad/overpriced contracts like Halloween candy. He's 35/36 and doesn't have much playing time left. Does he want to sign with a team that has a chance to win the cup or just get the fattest contract he can. I know he wants both, but he's not getting another fat contract. His skills are less than they were, he's older and with the Isles has a shot at hoisting the cup again. So maybe $3mx2 or 3.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'd be doing cartwheels for Golly at $2.5x2

I'm fine losing a touch of offensive production for a big leap in defensive competency. Anything that makes the Isles harder to play against/score on is a win for me.

I know it's going to end up being Parise, but I'd really love to bring in someone like Nick Ritchie for the 3rd line. Him, Pageau, and Wahlstrom would speedbag other teams lower lines with a nice combo of skill, defense, and physicality

- eichiefs9


I agree. I'll take better defense over Leddy. Still should be a nice 3rd line even with Parise.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jul 27 @ 4:25 PM ET
Kinda sorta disappointed. But not really.
- Wildschwein


Would be a little disappointing but not too bad. As long as it's not the Isles were right there and really wanted Suter and he turned them down.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:25 PM ET
I agree. I'll take better defense over Leddy. Still should be a nice 3rd line even with Parise.
- ses111

Gotta lose some more cap space though. With the numbers that have been thrown around in here for Pelech/Beau/Sorokin/Zeeker, it doesn't leave much room for other UFA's.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:26 PM ET
Would be a little disappointing but not too bad. As long as it's not the Isles were right there and really wanted Suter and he turned them down.
- ses111


Like what used to happen under Snowballs.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
I know $2.5 is a little low. Look at it this way though. He got that last deal when GM's were handing out bad/overpriced contracts like Halloween candy. He's 35/36 and doesn't have much playing time left. Does he want to sign with a team that has a chance to win the cup or just get the fattest contract he can. I know he wants both, but he's not getting another fat contract. His skills are less than they were, he's older and with the Isles has a shot at hoisting the cup again. So maybe $3mx2 or 3.
- Isleshockeyman

Wasn't laughing at your number, just laughing at how damn happy I'd be if we signed him for that
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
Wasn't laughing at your number, just laughing at how damn happy I'd be if we signed him for that
- eichiefs9

Hopefully Lou has something up his sleeve for tomorrow because we just lost 2 pretty big pieces.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 4:34 PM ET
Gotta lose some more cap space though. With the numbers that have been thrown around in here for Pelech/Beau/Sorokin/Zeeker, it doesn't leave much room for other UFA's.
- Isleshockeyman


My sources tell me that those numbers are high. And my sources haven’t lied to me yet.
Hockeyislife
New York Islanders
Joined: 05.29.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:36 PM ET
As I said earlier I am only concerned about signing our Ufas and RFAS if we have cap space after that then great.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
My sources tell me that those numbers are high. And my sources haven’t lied to me yet.
- Wildschwein

I disagree. I’ve lied to you multiple times.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
Hopefully Lou has something up his sleeve for tomorrow because we just lost 2 pretty big pieces.
- Isleshockeyman

I know it’s going to be hard to replace MDC and Ho Sang.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
My sources tell me that those numbers are high. And my sources haven’t lied to me yet.
- Wildschwein

The voices in your head don't actually count as sources. Just sayin'.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
I know it’s going to be hard to replace MDC and Ho Sang.
- Cptmjl

Who?
Hockeyislife
New York Islanders
Joined: 05.29.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Imagine Landeskog rejects that contract 7 years 49 million. My friend told me 7 years 56 million. Be interesting to see what happens
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Who?
- Isleshockeyman

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 27 @ 4:43 PM ET
Imagine Landeskog rejects that contract 7 years 49 million. My friend told me 7 years 56 million. Be interesting to see what happens
- Hockeyislife

VERY INTERESTING
Hockeyislife
New York Islanders
Joined: 05.29.2018

Jul 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
VERY INTERESTING
- Cptmjl


I see 5 years 40 million.
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