- Arctic_AARDVARK

What’s up Triple A? You best get on buying some land if you haven’t already. Prices are starting to rise even up here in the bush.

JT would waive to go to the moon before he'd waive to go to Blufalaughalo.
- bobbyisno1

We could ask him at least. It’s not like moon has windows either.

What’s up Triple A? You best get on buying some land if you haven’t already. Prices are starting to rise even up here in the bush.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Ya dude maybe!! Sounds like a good plan.

I don’t think there’s a GM in the NHL that doesn’t absolutely love it when they get a call from Dubas.

Easy pickin’s
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Let's look at the history of the easy pickin's:

Now, I think good trades I'll highlight in green, and poor trades we can highlight in red. Those which are mixed, we'll leave as default.


Matt Martin for capspace
Hutchinson for a 5th
Muzzin for Grundstrom, Durzi & 1st (Tobias Bjornfot)
Par Lindholm for Nic Petan
Patrick Marleau, 1st & 7th for a 6th
Kadri, Rosen & 3rd for Barrie, Kerfoot and a 6th
Zaitsev, Brown and Carcone for Ceci, Harpur, Luchuk and 3rd
Sparks for Clarkson & 4th
Campbell & Clifford for Moore & 2 3rds
Marchment for Malgin
Johnsson for Anderson
Kapanen, Lindgren & Aberg for 1st (Amirov), Rodrigues, Hallander, Warsofsky
Warsofsky & Korshkov for Galchenyuk
a 7th for Riley Nash
a 1st & 2 4ths for Foligno & Noesen
a 3rd for Rittich
a 5th for Hutton
McCann for Hallander & 7th


Now any deal can be debated about whether it was a win or a loss. For instance I consider the Brown for Ceci trade a win because our need was cap room and we needed to move out Zaitsev.

I am not considering the Kadri trade a loss despite it's obvious misgivings because we needed to move away from Kadri and his level of play is really not that much better than Kerfoot's at this point - couple that with Kadri getting suspended yet again this year, and I don't know if it was wrong to trade him. I still don't consider it a win because Barrie sucked and overall it was probably not really a net positive trade.

Landeskog re-signs in COL.

Landeskog re-signs in COL.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

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Let's look at the history of the easy pickin's:

Now, I think good trades I'll highlight in
- Monkeypunkgreen, and poor trades we can highlight in red. Those which are mixed, we'll leave as default.


Matt Martin for capspace
Hutchinson for a 5th
Muzzin for Grundstrom, Durzi & 1st (Tobias Bjornfot)
Par Lindholm for Nic Petan
Patrick Marleau, 1st & 7th for a 6th
Kadri, Rosen & 3rd for Barrie, Kerfoot and a 6th
Zaitsev, Brown and Carcone for Ceci, Harpur, Luchuk and 3rd
Sparks for Clarkson & 4th
Campbell & Clifford for Moore & 2 3rds
Marchment for Malgin
Johnsson for Anderson
Kapanen, Lindgren & Aberg for 1st (Amirov), Rodrigues, Hallander, Warsofsky
Warsofsky & Korshkov for Galchenyuk
a 7th for Riley Nash
a 1st & 2 4ths for Foligno & Noesen
a 3rd for Rittich
a 5th for Hutton
McCann for Hallander & 7th


Now any deal can be debated about whether it was a win or a loss. For instance I consider the Brown for Ceci trade a win because our need was cap room and we needed to move out Zaitsev.

I am not considering the Kadri trade a loss despite it's obvious misgivings because we needed to move away from Kadri and his level of play is really not that much better than Kerfoot's at this point - couple that with Kadri getting suspended yet again this year, and I don't know if it was wrong to trade him. I still don't consider it a win because Barrie sucked and overall it was probably not really a net positive trade.

I don’t agree with the wins and losses of Dubas transactions. But to each their own. Dubas hasn’t made this team better since he took over, especially when it comes to playoff performance.

I don’t agree with the wins and losses of Dubas transactions. But to each their own. Dubas hasn’t made this team better since he took over, especially when it comes to playoff performance.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He hasn't made it worse?

The team's playoff record is indefensible.

I thought many of the moves they made last year had a chance to work (I did not like the acquisition of Simmonds and Thornton, and so you can imagine that I hate the resigning for Simmonds for 2 more years), but the addition of Bogo and the TDL moves to get Foligno and Nash were the right idea.

There is some floundering as they try and find the missing pieces. But they had speed as a weapon and each move has been making them a bit slower - but maybe more defensively responsible, but less capable offensively - while still not being overly physical. I think there needs to be a clear definition there - get some physical defensive guys or go with speed. But figure it out and define that role.

Let's look at the history of the easy pickin's:

Now, I think good trades I'll highlight in
- Monkeypunkgreen, and poor trades we can highlight in red. Those which are mixed, we'll leave as default.


Matt Martin for capspace Soft
Hutchinson for a 5th Hutch sucked for us
Muzzin for Grundstrom, Durzi & 1st (Tobias Bjornfot)Good
Par Lindholm for Nic Petan Bad. Par wasn’t good but Petan was a problem
Patrick Marleau, 1st & 7th for a 6th We paid that to overpay the kids?
Kadri, Rosen & 3rd for Barrie, Kerfoot and a 6th Worst trade since the pick for Kurvers
Zaitsev, Brown and Carcone for Ceci, Harpur, Luchuk and 3rd I liked Brown, he was part of the glue/grit
Sparks for Clarkson & 4th One disaster for a former disaster
Campbell & Clifford for Moore & 2 3rds Good
Marchment for Malgin (frank)ing Awful
Johnsson for Anderson Teeth could still be here if he hadn’t been overpaid
Kapanen, Lindgren & Aberg for 1st (Amirov), Rodrigues, Hallander, Warsofsky See above, we lose Kappy for a Russian Petan.
Warsofsky & Korshkov for Galchenyuk Good, sign Chucky
a 7th for Riley Nash Who?
a 1st & 2 4ths for Foligno & Noesen If he doesn’t re up, putrid
a 3rd for Rittich Bad
a 5th for Hutton Why trade for something you don’t use
McCann for Hallander & 7th I was pumped about McCain instead of Kerfoot. WTF


Now any deal can be debated about whether it was a win or a loss. For instance I consider the Brown for Ceci trade a win because our need was cap room and we needed to move out Zaitsev.

I am not considering the Kadri trade a loss despite it's obvious misgivings because we needed to move away from Kadri and his level of play is really not that much better than Kerfoot's at this point - couple that with Kadri getting suspended yet again this year, and I don't know if it was wrong to trade him. I still don't consider it a win because Barrie sucked and overall it was probably not really a net positive trade.

Just IMO, of course.

Just IMO, of course.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

As I said any trade is debatable. When I considered something like Hutchinson - it was a need due to unforeseen injuries to the goalies. He was terrible, you're right. But it only cost a 5th to fill a critical need - which would have been better than Kaskisuo or Woll. Some moves we like to female dog about - but really Malgin for Marchment or Hutton for a 5th are nothing for nothing. I will agree that Marchment has more size and certainly Malgin has sucked in Toronto - Malgin has 28 career NHL goals and Marchment has 2. Many are less awful and more just meh. He has also made a number of deals that people don't love, but they were for the benefit of the player who wasn't playing or getting time here - it should help with players & agents in the future as well. Guys like

Connor Carrick
Josh Leivo
Andrew Nielsen
Fedor Gordeev
Dzierkals
Lehtonen
Barabanov
Greenaway


. . .were all moved to give them an opportunity they wouldn't otherwise have had.

As I said any trade is debatable. When I considered something like Hutchinson - it was a need due to unforeseen injuries to the goalies. He was terrible, you're right. But it only cost a 5th to fill a critical need - which would have been better than Kaskisuo or Woll. Some moves we like to female dog about - but really Malgin for Marchment or Hutton for a 5th are nothing for nothing. I will agree that Marchment has more size and certainly Malgin has sucked in Toronto - Malgin has 28 career NHL goals and Marchment has 2. Many are less awful and more just meh. He has also made a number of deals that people don't love, but they were for the benefit of the player who wasn't playing or getting time here - it should help with players & agents in the future as well. Guys like

Connor Carrick
Josh Leivo
Andrew Nielsen
Fedor Gordeev
Dzierkals
Lehtonen
Barabanov
Greenaway


. . .were all moved to give them an opportunity they wouldn't otherwise have had.
- Monkeypunk

I agree with a lot of what you say. At the end of the day, the marchment for malgin type moves are just reshuffling the deck chairs and arent that impactful.

Other moves like Hutton was purely for depth during injuries. A couple years ago they had very little and had some injuries. I think Dubas does learn.

The sad part about this off season is the team was set already. Lots of crazy moves already and leafs haven't been apart of it. Mostly because they have their core and they are signed. They don't need to trade a Schmidt or take on 5 million of salary like Johnson.

Like its cool what Chicago is doing but to what end? We shall see.

Started a Gofundme to help Hyman stay in Toronto

https://gofund.me/7d8d84fe

of course Dubas is looking to add another bad apple to the team.
Looking to add Ho Sang and getting rid of players like Hyman... what a joke.

(don't start with the 'Ho Sang will be with Marlies, they're not the same' talk -- I am talking the general approach on what type of characters to add to the team.)


Fire Dubas. Fire Shanahan. Fire Keefe.

of course Dubas is looking to add another bad apple to the team.
Looking to add Ho Sang and getting rid of players like Hyman... what a joke.

(don't start with the 'Ho Sang will be with Marlies, they're not the same' talk -- I am talking the general approach on what type of characters to add to the team.)


Fire Dubas. Fire Shanahan. Fire Keefe.
- MaximusAurelius

Their reclamation project worked out with galchenyuk, why not try it on someone else and see if it works?

Just over 6 hours and we'll see what Dubas is going to do. I still think Kerfoot gets traded especially if his signing bonus comes out today. Once that's paid, he's only owed 3.35mil over the next 2 seasons. That'll open some room for a cheaper 3C, splurge a bit on top line LW and bring Galchenyuk back for cheap.

Let's look at the history of the easy pickin's:

Now, I think good trades I'll highlight in
- Monkeypunkgreen, and poor trades we can highlight in red. Those which are mixed, we'll leave as default.


Matt Martin for capspace
Hutchinson for a 5th
Muzzin for Grundstrom, Durzi & 1st (Tobias Bjornfot)
Par Lindholm for Nic Petan
Patrick Marleau, 1st & 7th for a 6th
Kadri, Rosen & 3rd for Barrie, Kerfoot and a 6th
Zaitsev, Brown and Carcone for Ceci, Harpur, Luchuk and 3rd
Sparks for Clarkson & 4th
Campbell & Clifford for Moore & 2 3rds
Marchment for Malgin
Johnsson for Anderson
Kapanen, Lindgren & Aberg for 1st (Amirov), Rodrigues, Hallander, Warsofsky
Warsofsky & Korshkov for Galchenyuk
a 7th for Riley Nash
a 1st & 2 4ths for Foligno & Noesen
a 3rd for Rittich
a 5th for Hutton
McCann for Hallander & 7th


Now any deal can be debated about whether it was a win or a loss. For instance I consider the Brown for Ceci trade a win because our need was cap room and we needed to move out Zaitsev.

I am not considering the Kadri trade a loss despite it's obvious misgivings because we needed to move away from Kadri and his level of play is really not that much better than Kerfoot's at this point - couple that with Kadri getting suspended yet again this year, and I don't know if it was wrong to trade him. I still don't consider it a win because Barrie sucked and overall it was probably not really a net positive trade.

None of this is really the core problem with Dubas.

The problem is 4 forwards at 40M.

End of story.

Their reclamation project worked out with galchenyuk, why not try it on someone else and see if it works?

Just over 6 hours and we'll see what Dubas is going to do. I still think Kerfoot gets traded especially if his signing bonus comes out today. Once that's paid, he's only owed 3.35mil over the next 2 seasons. That'll open some room for a cheaper 3C, splurge a bit on top line LW and bring Galchenyuk back for cheap.
- matt1337

Besides getting some kind of goalie, reclamation projects are all we CAN do. Dubas is (frank)ed.

of course Dubas is looking to add another bad apple to the team.
Looking to add Ho Sang and getting rid of players like Hyman... what a joke.

(don't start with the 'Ho Sang will be with Marlies, they're not the same' talk -- I am talking the general approach on what type of characters to add to the team.)


Fire Dubas. Fire Shanahan. Fire Keefe.
- MaximusAurelius

Dubas has really done a number on some of you guys. You need therapy.

Coming here every day with the same whiney bullpoop is not therapy. This place is an out of control daycare.

To those who said Tampa was in trouble and nobody would take Johnson.

Happy Michael Bunting sweepstakes day. What could be more exciting then this

can someone explain to me the problems with J-ho-sang?

To those who said Tampa was in trouble and nobody would take Johnson.


- AdamFrench

So was Seabrook uninsured or something?

Thought Tampa would get squeezed a bit more for someone to take Johnson's contract.

can someone explain to me the problems with J-ho-sang?
- senstroll

All I have read is that he is cocky confident.

Wasn't willing to be a team player. Was an obvious choice for the World Junior team but was passed over because of his inability to be a team player or something.

My guess is he has matured with age - but some seem to think that once a selfish player, always a selfish player.

To those who said Tampa was in trouble and nobody would take Johnson.


- AdamFrench

"Tampa will never be able to trade Tyler Johnson! It'll take 5 first round picks, Cernak and Cirelli! And this might not even be enough! Tampa is so screwed! No team will deal with them after what they did! (frank) them the cheating ba$tards!" 🤣

can someone explain to me the problems with J-ho-sang?
- senstroll

He sucks and was a massive female genitalia?

can someone explain to me the problems with J-ho-sang?
- senstroll

Nope.