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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:29 AM ET
BM100, Dobber is the bible for fantasy and they have a nice easy and quick look at some fancies. Not deep deep deep fancy stats inside the fancy stats inside the fancy stats but very easy to understand and hits on most relevant fancy stats where one doesn't need a PHD to understand the numbers.

Make sure to click on Career Stats, Line Combinations and Advanced Stats tabs and you'll get a pretty solid picture of any player, again without needing a PHD to understand the stats. ....... https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/tyler-johnson

An aside remember when the Hawks beat TB in the Finals? It was reported afterwards this kid played that series with a broken wrist. This guy is a man, plays like a man and it helps he's a legit centerman who can win a draw and will happily play any role he's given.

Same can be said about Jones. Someone posted a solid article of Torts talking about his team and mentioned guys who checked out but Jones played hard all the way to the end and that he feels Jones should be their next Captain. High praise from a no nonsense 1/2 a maniac Torterella..... Jones is another who plays the sport like a man.

- Mr Ricochet

If Jones doesn’t play like a guy who’s making $9.5M and who cost the Hawks a big chunk of their future the fact he plays like a man or plays hard to the end he’s going to be the next target for Hawk fans
chuckdahammer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.01.2016

Jul 28 @ 10:30 AM ET
If the free agent rumor about Hawks and Jake McCabe is true, he would be a welcome addition. Very good defensively and plays physical style. The only problem with him is his health. If he stays healthy ..... nice pick up ! He hails from Wisconsin so this would almost be home for him
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
BM100, Dobber is the bible for fantasy and they have a nice easy and quick look at some fancies. Not deep deep deep fancy stats inside the fancy stats inside the fancy stats but very easy to understand and hits on most relevant fancy stats where one doesn't need a PHD to understand the numbers.

Make sure to click on Career Stats, Line Combinations and Advanced Stats tabs and you'll get a pretty solid picture of any player, again without needing a PHD to understand the stats. ....... https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/tyler-johnson

An aside remember when the Hawks beat TB in the Finals? It was reported afterwards this kid played that series with a broken wrist. This guy is a man, plays like a man and it helps he's a legit centerman who can win a draw and will happily play any role he's given.

Same can be said about Jones. Someone posted a solid article of Torts talking about his team and mentioned guys who checked out but Jones played hard all the way to the end and that he feels Jones should be their next Captain. High praise from a no nonsense 1/2 a maniac Torterella..... Jones is another who plays the sport like a man.

- Mr Ricochet


Thanks for the link and your thoughts on TJ, sir. I'll look into it.

Edit - One concern I have about him, is if he's so good why did he clear waivers twice last season. Cap hit and term I assume.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:32 AM ET
Spaulding, you'll get nothing and like it!
- mohel


Lol. Nice.

Think he'll eat the booger though?
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
Lolking forward to seeing if Borgstrom turns into anything notable and if so where he ends up in the lineup
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
https://dobberhockey.com/...leury-shipped-to-chicago/


Over the last three years, here are Fleury's ranks across the league in various statistical measures that aren't just standard box stats:

27th out of 37 goalies with 4000 minutes at 5-on-5 in high-danger save percentage
24th out of 37 goalies by goals saved above average per 60 minutes
15th out of 33 goalies with 3000 fenwick events at 5-on-5 in goals saved above expected

Charitably, when looking at Fleury's full body of work over the last three years, he's been about average, maybe a bit worse. That is the nature of goaltending: Fleury can be among the absolute elite in the league, or he can cost you games. In total, he works out to be about average.

For fantasy, Fleury leaves one of the best defensive environments in hockey – third-fewest shots allowed per 60 minutes at 5-on-5 the last two years – to one of the worst in Chicago. Over the last two seasons, the Blackhawks are a distant last in shots allowed per 60 minutes. Shots allowed has a direct effect on Goals Against Average, a key component of any fantasy goaltender. GAA is dictated by goals allowed per 60 minutes, and goals allowed is largely a result of shots allowed; five of the six teams who've allowed the most goals at 5-on-5 over the last two years are the five teams who've allowed the most shots. There is a big, big difference between facing 27 shots a game or 34 shots a game.

That is the problem here. If Fleury is an average goalie making 50 starts for Vegas, the team's defensive ability makes him a potential top-10 goalie in the fantasy game. If Fleury is an average goalie making 50 starts for Chicago, he's a backup in 12-team leagues. In that sense, Fleury needs to repeat close to his 2021 campaign, or Chicago needs to improve massively in one offseason. It is just a lot to ask.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
Panthers did not give Lucas Carlsson QO. Wonder if he finds his way back to Rockford? Pretty crowded on defense already but wouldn’t mind seeing him back in the fold
- Assman22


He did re-sign with the Panthers. 1 year at 750K.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:36 AM ET
Panthers did not give Lucas Carlsson QO. Wonder if he finds his way back to Rockford? Pretty crowded on defense already but wouldn’t mind seeing him back in the fold
- Assman22



I thought they signed him to a 2 way deal?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Would seem to fit well opposite Kubalik on Toews line
- Assman22


Assuming Kubalik isn't moved for another defender or younger player \ picks.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly

TAKE IT!!!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
If the free agent rumor about Hawks and Jake McCabe is true, he would be a welcome addition. Very good defensively and plays physical style. The only problem with him is his health. If he stays healthy ..... nice pick up ! He hails from Wisconsin so this would almost be home for him
- chuckdahammer



Lots of rumours today. McCabe to the Hawks gives be negative flashbacks to Bryan McCabe.

Friedman is also reporting that the Hawks and Flames are working on a deal for Zadorov.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly



Cap Space
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
If Jones doesn’t play like a guy who’s making $9.5M and who cost the Hawks a big chunk of their future the fact he plays like a man or plays hard to the end he’s going to be the next target for Hawk fans
- paulr


Though the Bears are relatively exciting so there may be a reprieve to start the year unless they are absolute garbage which, no matter who they add, is not outside the realm of possibilities.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
If Jones doesn’t play like a guy who’s making $9.5M and who cost the Hawks a big chunk of their future the fact he plays like a man or plays hard to the end he’s going to be the next target for Hawk fans
- paulr


Hasn't he and his salary been from day one here?????


There is no doubt in my mind he will be a valuable anchor for years.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
40s
Looks like it's being consummated now
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
Z to the Flames per Friedman.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly

He’ll go for FREE. Stan is giving away every asset desired by others
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
He did re-sign with the Panthers. 1 year at 750K.
- boilermaker100

Yep missed that sorry pal
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly


They didn't learn from Gus? Take advantage while the going is good.
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Jul 28 @ 10:42 AM ET
Z to Calgary for The Flames alternative jersey's. The Blackhawks will then burn them in a private ceremony.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
https://dobberhockey.com/2021/07/27/fantasy-take-fleury-shipped-to-chicago/


Over the last three years, here are Fleury's ranks across the league in various statistical measures that aren't just standard box stats:

27th out of 37 goalies with 4000 minutes at 5-on-5 in high-danger save percentage
24th out of 37 goalies by goals saved above average per 60 minutes
15th out of 33 goalies with 3000 fenwick events at 5-on-5 in goals saved above expected

Charitably, when looking at Fleury's full body of work over the last three years, he's been about average, maybe a bit worse. That is the nature of goaltending: Fleury can be among the absolute elite in the league, or he can cost you games. In total, he works out to be about average.

For fantasy, Fleury leaves one of the best defensive environments in hockey – third-fewest shots allowed per 60 minutes at 5-on-5 the last two years – to one of the worst in Chicago. Over the last two seasons, the Blackhawks are a distant last in shots allowed per 60 minutes. Shots allowed has a direct effect on Goals Against Average, a key component of any fantasy goaltender. GAA is dictated by goals allowed per 60 minutes, and goals allowed is largely a result of shots allowed; five of the six teams who've allowed the most goals at 5-on-5 over the last two years are the five teams who've allowed the most shots. There is a big, big difference between facing 27 shots a game or 34 shots a game.

That is the problem here. If Fleury is an average goalie making 50 starts for Vegas, the team's defensive ability makes him a potential top-10 goalie in the fantasy game. If Fleury is an average goalie making 50 starts for Chicago, he's a backup in 12-team leagues. In that sense, Fleury needs to repeat close to his 2021 campaign, or Chicago needs to improve massively in one offseason. It is just a lot to ask.

- Mr Ricochet


Don't worry. Some here think it just takes a "full training camp" to get every one on board to play defense. If that doesn't happen, the excuse will be there isn't enough in-season practice time due to the compressed schedule leading up to the Olympics. I think it will take more than Jones, a resurrected Toews and Johnson to improve the overall team defense.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jul 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
Z to Calgary for The Flames alternative jersey's. The Blackhawks will then burn them in a private ceremony.
- NamedSources



Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
Z to Calgary for The Flames alternative jersey's. The Blackhawks will then burn them in a private ceremony.
- NamedSources

Guessing a 6th rounder or conditional 5th at best
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 28 @ 10:44 AM ET
Per Friedman:

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Per @reporterchris
, CAL/CHI talking about Zadorov deal
9:33 AM · Jul 28, 2021·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/Fried...tatus/1420391994468229128

Wonder what we'd get from Calgary.

- Popsghostly


Lucic.
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