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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
I dont know a lot about Mrazek or goalies.

a few of the statsy folks like the bet. so what evs

Mike Kelly
@MikeKellyNHL
Mrazek only played 12 games last season but was great. 40 games in 2019-20, closer to average.
40 games in 2018-19, very solid.

Leafs were a top-10 team in expected goals against last season. Mrazek a good bet to perform well there alongside Campbell.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 28 @ 11:11 AM ET
I prefer Mrazek over Kuemper.
Still, quite a bit of AAV and 3y deal not great..

Could have done worse.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 28 @ 11:12 AM ET
I guess we'll see what transpires but I woulda preferred Halak at 3 x 1 over Mrazek at 3.8 x 3. He could be an expensive back up if Campbell takes the reigns next year.
- The Law


they will have 5.5 in 2 goalies. if they play 50-32 or 41-41
all the same
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
Nah just crazy! LW was my position. 🤣
- gergeswillems

glad to hear
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
100%.

Why help a team that has Mcdavid and Dri? Unless they get fair value in return (frank) off. Its 400K in space every year for the next 8 years.

- Santo_44


Well that's just not true.

It's 400k in space for seven years. Then you get a cap hit of 5 million+ in the eighth year.

An 8 year deal is really only marginally better in totality than a 7 year deal. Which is probably why EDM balked at the high cost.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
So goaltending market is a tad higher than we thought.

Veteran D is 10x higher than we thought.

Who is getting a pay cut here?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:13 AM ET
thinking about it, Leafs did the right thing.

they would be doing Edm a big favor to save them millions cap over 8 years.
pay up or (frank) off

- senstroll


At first I was thinking they should have taken the pick.

After a bit I came around to your thoughts too. Nobody does Dubas favours so why should he? Its $400,000 a year if rumored. That is 3.2 million over 8 years. Thats a decent bottom 6 guy or better back up goalie.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Current accounting:

~ 5.5 in space with 10F, 6D and 2 'tenders signed.

~1M for that vet D leaves about 4.5 for 2 forwards.

Bunting at ~1.5? .....somebody at 3M.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
I prefer Mrazek over Kuemper.
Still, quite a bit of AAV and 3y deal not great..

Could have done worse.

- MaximusAurelius


I was hoping for a touch less AAV but whatever. Its giving some insurance if Campbell sucks and walks next year or something.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well that's just not true.

It's 400k in space for seven years. Then you get a cap hit of 5 million+ in the eighth year.

An 8 year deal is really only marginally better in totality than a 7 year deal. Which is probably why EDM balked at the high cost.

- Leafs43


400k in cap space until Mcdavid is 32.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Current accounting:

~ 5.5 in space with 10F, 6D and 2 'tenders signed.

~1M for that vet D leaves about 4.5 for 2 forwards.

Bunting at ~1.5? .....somebody at 3M.

- The Law

Mikheyev, Kerfoot, Dermott being shopped.

Hard to imagine not seeing 2/3 of those traded today or tomorrow.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Current accounting:

~ 5.5 in space with 10F, 6D and 2 'tenders signed.

~1M for that vet D leaves about 4.5 for 2 forwards.

Bunting at ~1.5? .....somebody at 3M.

- The Law


I think we see a trade
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
they will have 5.5 in 2 goalies. if they play 50-32 or 41-41
all the same

- senstroll


I just mean if Campbell plays like last year and stays healthy he likely takes the reigns. If so that makes next offseason a little tough with a Mrazek at 3.8.

I'd expect that this means Mrazek will get every opportunity to take the reigns given the paycheque.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
Current accounting:

~ 5.5 in space with 10F, 6D and 2 'tenders signed.

~1M for that vet D leaves about 4.5 for 2 forwards.

Bunting at ~1.5? .....somebody at 3M.

- The Law

winning The Cup should be a breeze with that roster
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
winning The Cup should be a breeze with that roster
- 21peter


Go do a triathlon
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
I just mean if Campbell plays like last year and stays healthy he likely takes the reigns. If so that makes next offseason a little tough with a Mrazek at 3.8.

I'd expect that this means Mrazek will get every opportunity to take the reigns given the paycheque.

- The Law

also Campbell might leave next year
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
also Campbell might leave next year
- drexel


Nice guys don’t leave
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:18 AM ET
I dont know a lot about Mrazek or goalies.

a few of the statsy folks like the bet. so what evs

- senstroll


I don't love the Mrazek deal - I guess middling goalies are more expensive than I thought.

It does give some cost certainty going forward though. Campbell only had 1 year left.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
Go do a triathlon
- Canada Cup

we're all switching between chess and triathlon now
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:19 AM ET
I am surprised by some of the AAVs. They seem high regardless of flat cap.

In other news, I find it funny every year that all this poop leaks when its supposed to be vaulted and noone can talk until 12 noon.

Contracts take 5 mins.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:20 AM ET

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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Oilers trade Ethan Bear to the Hurricanes for Warren Foegele
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
I just mean if Campbell plays like last year and stays healthy he likely takes the reigns. If so that makes next offseason a little tough with a Mrazek at 3.8.

I'd expect that this means Mrazek will get every opportunity to take the reigns given the paycheque.

- The Law


Well there is a trade market.

This is also Dubas telling Campbell you've done well but you haven't started 50 games ever.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:21 AM ET

Kevin Weekes
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From what I’m told , Ryan Suter closing in on a multi yr deal with the
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
Not just me who thinks that? Good.

Glad for the kid..go make some money and you went from Matthews wing to McDavid. Fantastic career moves.

- Aaron_85

Great for Hyman.
Desperate for edm.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
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16s
Oilers trade Ethan Bear to the Hurricanes for Warren Foegele

- 21peter


And Zadarov to Flames for a 3rd
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