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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 29 @ 8:55 AM ET
Praise Shanny praise Marner
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 29 @ 8:57 AM ET
The solution is another contest Aeth. Best babes from 60's vs 70's vs 80's etc. You can do it. It will be a nice distraction.

Leafs will be ok. Doubt very much that the current management team survives if there are no strides this year. I am remain optimistic about the future. Leafs have young talent that has to live up to expectations, need a plan and a coach that can help deliver.

- winsix

The flat cap really screwed the Leafs. Hopefully the cap goes up next year and allows for some improvements. It's going to be pretty tough to improve this year when they are losing players like Hyman.


They'll need Sandin, Bunting, and Robertson to have a big impacts this year to improve.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 29 @ 8:57 AM ET
Praise Shanny praise Marner
- Zezel

Keeping the cup drought alive and well.
Great job boys!!
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 29 @ 8:58 AM ET
Cizikas was a beast in the playoffs

Exactly what we need 👍

- mr.sir


Would be ok, doesn't score nearly as much as Hyman did and will likely be a $4 M AAV so I wouldn't count on it.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 29 @ 9:01 AM ET
Arthur Staple
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OK gang, who's ready for Day 1 of free agency! #Isles





islanders didnt sign anyone yesterday
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 29 @ 9:03 AM ET
Keeping the cup drought alive and well.
Great job boys!!

- Fakepartofme


32 teams all want the same thing. Some have distinct advantages over others. Building a team that matches the changing way games are called, Puck Luck, injury luck all play a role. Leafs have second most cups, drought shmought
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 29 @ 9:04 AM ET
saw mentioned on tweeter.
Trade Target Rakell

28yo
1 year 3.8mil


would need Ana to retain a little
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
Would be ok, doesn't score nearly as much as Hyman did and will likely be a $4 M AAV so I wouldn't count on it.
- winsix

Money well spent
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
Keeping the cup drought alive and well.
Great job boys!!

- Fakepartofme


It's darkest before the dawn my dude, GLFG
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 9:07 AM ET
saw mentioned on tweeter.
Trade Target Rakell

28yo
1 year 3.8mil


would need Ana to retain a little

- senstroll


Dubas was talking about going after a winger from a team tight to the cap
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
Well we may not feel it in a negative manner if they show up.

Let's not forget our D core is Rielly, brodie and muzzin and thats a solid 3.

- Aaron_85

I know it's premature (but is it really?) to worry about next season, but a couple of points to consider:

- Rielly is UFA and there is no reason to believe he signs a "hometown" discount with this club
- Muzzin has been injury prone two years a row now when we most needed him. He's got a lot of mileage and will be 33 next season
- If Jack Campbell has a good season this year he's going to see his salary triple

The one beautiful positive is that Kessel will finally be off the books - 1.2M back in our wallet.

Anyway, I'm not feeling too comfortable that this team is in a better position today (or next season) to make a deep run.

But what do I know? 🤷
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
Dubas was talking about going after a winger from a team tight to the cap
- Canada Cup


not seeing anyone interesting
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:10 AM ET
saw mentioned on tweeter.
Trade Target Rakell

28yo
1 year 3.8mil


would need Ana to retain a little

- senstroll

This would be a very nice pickup.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 9:11 AM ET
I know it's premature (but is it really?) to worry about next season, but a couple of points to consider:

- Rielly is UFA and there is no reason to believe he signs a "hometown" discount with this club
- Muzzin has been injury prone two years a row now when we most needed him. He's got a lot of mileage and will be 33 next season
- If Jack Campbell has a good season this year he's going to see his salary triple

The one beautiful positive is that Kessel will finally be off the books - 1.2M back in our wallet.

Anyway, I'm not feeling too comfortable that this team is in a better position today (or next season) to make a deep run.

But what do I know? 🤷

- mjones242


It’s good to plan next year’s depression
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 29 @ 9:12 AM ET
The flat cap really screwed the Leafs. Hopefully the cap goes up next year and allows for some improvements. It's going to be pretty tough to improve this year when they are losing players like Hyman.


They'll need Sandin, Bunting, and Robertson to have a big impacts this year to improve.

- Archaic


Hyman benefited a great deal playing on the Leafs top lines. He's tenacious, a good player, but not in the same league as his linemates when it comes to talent. Hard work is great, hard work plus talent is better. The flat cap did screw the Leafs. They did have a Cap Manager that didn't do a good job IMO. Had the Leafs dug in and forced bridge deals with Nylander and Marner, it is quite possible, the offsetting of the contracts would have allowed the Leafs to better manage their salary limitations.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 29 @ 9:14 AM ET
I know it's premature (but is it really?) to worry about next season, but a couple of points to consider:

- Rielly is UFA and there is no reason to believe he signs a "hometown" discount with this club
- Muzzin has been injury prone two years a row now when we most needed him. He's got a lot of mileage and will be 33 next season
- If Jack Campbell has a good season this year he's going to see his salary triple

The one beautiful positive is that Kessel will finally be off the books - 1.2M back in our wallet.

Anyway, I'm not feeling too comfortable that this team is in a better position today (or next season) to make a deep run.

But what do I know? 🤷

- mjones242



Off season isn't over yet and we have to get to the playoffs and see how they perform first.

To your points though:

1. With the price of Dmen I think Rielly aims at 8+ and indeed id consider the bold move of trading him and letting Sandin slide in.
2. We can hope Muzzin is healthy during the playoffs.
3. Sign him then. Trade Mzarek.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:15 AM ET
not seeing anyone interesting
- senstroll

Kase
Ritchie
Parise
Dal Colle
Galchenyuk
Svechnikov
Gusev
Kahun


CIZIKAS!!!

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 29 @ 9:16 AM ET
not seeing anyone interesting
- senstroll


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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 29 @ 9:20 AM ET
Hyman benefited a great deal playing on the Leafs top lines. He's tenacious, a good player, but not in the same league as his linemates when it comes to talent. Hard work is great, hard work plus talent is better. The flat cap did screw the Leafs. They did have a Cap Manager that didn't do a good job IMO. Had the Leafs dug in and forced bridge deals with Nylander and Marner, it is quite possible, the offsetting of the contracts would have allowed the Leafs to better manage their salary limitations.
- winsix


Dubas is a player's GM so he'll always be vulnerable to that. He didn't want to repeat the mistakes with Nylander because they were in a window to win, and didn't want Mitch sitting around for months getting fat on ice cream sandwiches playing XBox with his mom.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:27 AM ET
The flat cap really screwed the Leafs. Hopefully the cap goes up next year and allows for some improvements. It's going to be pretty tough to improve this year when they are losing players like Hyman.


They'll need Sandin, Bunting, and Robertson to have a big impacts this year to improve.

- Archaic



they signed a lot of depth players, but they still need to get someone to play 1st line LW.

I don't think it is Bunting, maybe he'll be the 2LW with Tavares and Nylander

Not gonna lie, LW looks weak with Bunting, Robertson, Mikheyev and ?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:30 AM ET
I know it's premature (but is it really?) to worry about next season, but a couple of points to consider:

- Rielly is UFA and there is no reason to believe he signs a "hometown" discount with this club
- Muzzin has been injury prone two years a row now when we most needed him. He's got a lot of mileage and will be 33 next season
- If Jack Campbell has a good season this year he's going to see his salary triple

The one beautiful positive is that Kessel will finally be off the books - 1.2M back in our wallet.

Anyway, I'm not feeling too comfortable that this team is in a better position today (or next season) to make a deep run.

But what do I know? 🤷

- mjones242


Mrazek and Bunting will make the team, but I don't know if Ho-Sang, Gabriel, Biega, Dahlstrom will make the NHL roster, a lot of fringe/depth pieces
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 29 @ 9:32 AM ET
they signed a lot of depth players, but they still need to get someone to play 1st line LW.

I don't think it is Bunting, maybe he'll be the 2LW with Tavares and Nylander

Not gonna lie, LW looks weak with Bunting, Robertson, Mikheyev and ?

- PatC80

Mikheyev Matthews Marner
Bunting Tavares Nylander
Robertson Engvall Simmonds
Brooks Kampf Spezza
(Anderson, Gabriel, Amadio, Ho Sang)

Kerfoot traded
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
Hyman benefited a great deal playing on the Leafs top lines. He's tenacious, a good player, but not in the same league as his linemates when it comes to talent. Hard work is great, hard work plus talent is better. The flat cap did screw the Leafs. They did have a Cap Manager that didn't do a good job IMO. Had the Leafs dug in and forced bridge deals with Nylander and Marner, it is quite possible, the offsetting of the contracts would have allowed the Leafs to better manage their salary limitations.
- winsix

I agree with everything minus the comment on Human. He was able to drive a 3rd line fairly well with the HEM line, I do agree he did benefit from playing with good obviously players , but he does have finishing ability
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
I know it's premature (but is it really?) to worry about next season, but a couple of points to consider:

- Rielly is UFA and there is no reason to believe he signs a "hometown" discount with this club
- Muzzin has been injury prone two years a row now when we most needed him. He's got a lot of mileage and will be 33 next season
- If Jack Campbell has a good season this year he's going to see his salary triple

The one beautiful positive is that Kessel will finally be off the books - 1.2M back in our wallet.

Anyway, I'm not feeling too comfortable that this team is in a better position today (or next season) to make a deep run.

But what do I know? 🤷

- mjones242


This is exactly why Reilly needs to be resigned this year or traded just like Columbus did with Jones. It would be immensely stupid to go into the year with him unsigned.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
Mikheyev Matthews Marner
Bunting Tavares Nylander
Robertson Engvall Simmonds
Brooks Kampf Spezza
(Anderson, Gabriel, Amadio, Ho Sang)

Kerfoot traded

- mr.sir


Anderson, Gabriel and Amadio are RW or C
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