Its reported that the Hawks' brass likes Kurashev as well. I listened to the Friedman podcast about the Jones trade and if I recall correctly, the Hawks wouldn't throw Kurashev into the deal. Not sure of the accuracy but its out there.
- Popsghostly

I read that somewhere, too, that Kurashev was untouchable as far as the Jones trade. Glad to see.

From what I can recall that list included DeBrincat, Dach, Reichel, and Kurashev. I think there was 1-2 more.

Is like your crying when a 1st round pick isnt really a first round pick if it's the Hawks....

You're boring.

There are a lot of people excited about some of the moves the Hawks made

Wiz, who follows prospects, wrote specifically why Jones is a great add. Many around the NHL know why Jones is a really good addition in talent.

And there is the the connection these 3 have in team USA development program that can excite people

I honestly dont care what you think after this post. All you have done for days is whine. Its old. Boring. Exhausting to read. No one cares.✌

To the ones that do care - it's a pretty good/interesting trio on the backend. I would expect Murphy extension this year and the backend core is set with those 3 - and moving pieces around them
- PatShart

This. Not to mention he is arrogant, condescending, insulting and fairly regularly wrong.

The Hawks arguably have four players wasting cap space, Strome, Connelly, De Haan, and Carpenter, about $12M. Three of these players will be gone by end of season, if not sooner. If De Haan is healthy(big if), then I would keep him around until TDL and make a call then, Carpenter makes $1M(non issue), Strome should not be hard to move, so the only challenge is Connolly and he can be bought out next year if need be. Fleury’s $7M also comes off the books at end of season, if not sooner, so that’s $19M to sign their RFA’s or new UFA’s, for those worried about the cap, the Hawks are in a good place.
- Angotti

Not in cap hell, but need to make sure Bowman doesn't put them back in it. While Fleury's $7m comes off the books next year (if it ever goes on), don't forget that S. Jones cap hit will be going up $4m next year, Lankinen if he remains the starter will get a huge bump and you have Kubalik, Kurashev and Dach to resign.

Have to remain smart on how the cap is allocated.

I read that somewhere, too, that Kurashev was untouchable as far as the Jones trade. Glad to see.

From what I can recall that list included DeBrincat, Dach, Reichel, and Kurashev. I think there was 1-2 more.
- Theo Fox

the only thing missing from that list is a goaltending prospect of some sort. not sure why the hawks really havn't drafted one since CC. or really seem to put it as a priority. i get stock piling 1000 defense prospects how about a goalie or 2? maybe i missed soemthing in the prospect pipeline?

So he took a pay cut. That’s saad.
- Diamondhands

Ya, he's up to what, about 55 - 60 mil for his career

Wonder if it means Vladdy's ass is as good as gone.
- I Am The Breadman

In the words of Hawk Harrelson, "he gone!"

Or when the whole Tampa team went after Murphy for his hit on Cernak, and he had to defend himself all by his lonesome.

That might of been when Stan said we need to change the complexion of this team next year.
- LAHawk

It will be fun playing the Preds and Blues as well.

the only thing missing from that list is a goaltending prospect of some sort. not sure why the hawks really havn't drafted one since CC. or really seem to put it as a priority. i get stock piling 1000 defense prospects how about a goalie or 2? maybe i missed soemthing in the prospect pipeline?
- SaskHawkFan

??? They signed one of the top goalie prospects out of the Sweedish league in 21 year old Soderblom and drafted one of the top goalie prospects in 20 year old Commesso last year.

LOL. People are excited about this team?
- Elbows15

What can I say, I always am, even when I know they're going to suck.

Always excited about the young guys, seeing if anyone will pan out. Excited to see what Kane will do that I never imagined him doing. Really excited for Cat's development

I don't mind most of the deals. I didn't like the extra picks, and the cost of the extension, but I've always loved Seth Jones, and thought Poille was a moron for letting him go. I assume its what it took to get it done. I sure like Jones over what Hamilton got.

Development, rebuilding, I get it, but honestly, was tired of watching them scratch and claw to wins every now and then, but getting outshot by 20 shots a night.

I don't think young guys, especially Dmen, develop too well in that environment.

You could argue keeping all those guys in Rockford for a year may be a better rebuilding program, than having them in Chicago.

McCabe will be worth his cap hit IF he can stay healthy. That is the only concern with McCabe.

Since it seems important, McCabe will also stand up for his teammates. To be clear, I don't dismiss that aspect at all. I just prefer it being a team wide thing instead of it falling to one or two players.
- Elbows15

I keep seeing this, are there many guys who never recover from an ACL procedure these days??

If anything, many report the surgery make's in stronger. Just don't get the stress over an ACL, not necessarily you, its just something I've read a lot over the last day or two.

the only thing missing from that list is a goaltending prospect of some sort. not sure why the hawks really havn't drafted one since CC. or really seem to put it as a priority. i get stock piling 1000 defense prospects how about a goalie or 2? maybe i missed soemthing in the prospect pipeline?
- SaskHawkFan

Since 2010 the Hawks have drafted:
Mac Carruth (2010, 7th)
Kent Simpson (2010, 2nd)
Johan Mattsson (2011, 7th)
Branson Whitney (2012, 7th)
Matt Tomkins (2012, 7th)
Ivan Nalimov (2014, 6th)
Wouter Peeters (2016, 3rd)
Alexis Gravel (2018, 6th)
Dominic Basse (2019, 6th)
Drew Commesso (2020, 2nd)

They've also signed Delia, Lankinen, and a host of others that I don't want to look up right now. The fact of the matter is that projecting and drafting goalies is very difficult, and there aren't a ton of really good ones. For about 10 years the Hawks did a great job of finding and replacing either starters or backups (Niemi, Crow, Emery, Raanta, Darling). Now they are back to hoping for the best.

the only thing missing from that list is a goaltending prospect of some sort. not sure why the hawks really havn't drafted one since CC. or really seem to put it as a priority. i get stock piling 1000 defense prospects how about a goalie or 2? maybe i missed soemthing in the prospect pipeline?
- SaskHawkFan

Ahh, didn't they draft a 2nd round goalie prospect last year in Commesso, who had a pretty good first year in College?

Drafted right around same pick as CC if I remember correctly.

Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
When asked if he had any comment about the Marc-Andre Fleury trade, Hextall said, "No, I don't have a lot. I think Marc-Andre has been a terrific goalie for a long, long time. I've got the ultimate respect for him, and obviously people around here speak very highly of him."
3:47 PM · Jul 28, 2021


Matt Vensel
@mattvensel
·Jul 27
Just heard from a reliable source that the #Pens are not looking to acquire Marc-Andre Fleury. Not part of their plans at the moment. Carry on.


https://www.post-gazette....ency/stories/202107270165

But a source told the Post-Gazette on Tuesday evening that the Penguins are not looking to reacquire Fleury, a three-time Stanley Cup winner here, and that he is not part of their plans with free agency set to begin Wednesday at noon.

But he is 36 and has a salary cap hit of $7 million in the final year of his deal. The Penguins, with limited cap space, are expected to go in another direction at that pivotal position, the source said. And it makes sense. If they coveted Fleury, why weren’t they the ones acquiring him for next to nothing from Vegas?

Ahh, didn't they draft a 2nd round goalie prospect last year in Commesso, who had a pretty good first year in College?

Drafted right around same pick as CC if I remember correctly.
- vabeachbear

Yep, and Commesso is looking pretty good this week at the WJSS (a kinda preseason/tryout for the WJC-20). He'll be the starter for Team USA this yr.

Pens Inside Scoop
@PensInsideScoop
When asked if he had any comment about the Marc-Andre Fleury trade, Hextall said, "No, I don't have a lot. I think Marc-Andre has been a terrific goalie for a long, long time. I've got the ultimate respect for him, and obviously people around here speak very highly of him."
3:47 PM · Jul 28, 2021


Matt Vensel
@mattvensel
·Jul 27
Just heard from a reliable source that the #Pens are not looking to acquire Marc-Andre Fleury. Not part of their plans at the moment. Carry on.


https://www.post-gazette....ency/stories/202107270165

But a source told the Post-Gazette on Tuesday evening that the Penguins are not looking to reacquire Fleury, a three-time Stanley Cup winner here, and that he is not part of their plans with free agency set to begin Wednesday at noon.

But he is 36 and has a salary cap hit of $7 million in the final year of his deal. The Penguins, with limited cap space, are expected to go in another direction at that pivotal position, the source said. And it makes sense. If they coveted Fleury, why weren’t they the ones acquiring him for next to nothing from Vegas?
- Mr Ricochet

I thought after Stan spoke, he was really wanting Fleury in goal, not just GM speak. Better D, better Goalie. Allows Lanky to not get thrown to wolves.

I thought after Stan spoke, he was really wanting Fleury in goal, not just GM speak. Better D, better Goalie. Allows Lanky to not get thrown to wolves.
- vabeachbear

good old Hextall, i wouldn't take anything he fully says at face vaule. GM speak. hes a tender he knows they need a good one or they go nowhere.

Since 2010 the Hawks have drafted:
Mac Carruth (2010, 7th)
Kent Simpson (2010, 2nd)
Johan Mattsson (2011, 7th)
Branson Whitney (2012, 7th)
Matt Tomkins (2012, 7th)
Ivan Nalimov (2014, 6th)
Wouter Peeters (2016, 3rd)
Alexis Gravel (2018, 6th)
Dominic Basse (2019, 6th)
Drew Commesso (2020, 2nd)

They've also signed Delia, Lankinen, and a host of others that I don't want to look up right now. The fact of the matter is that projecting and drafting goalies is very difficult, and there aren't a ton of really good ones. For about 10 years the Hawks did a great job of finding and replacing either starters or backups (Niemi, Crow, Emery, Raanta, Darling). Now they are back to hoping for the best.
- Chunk

Most scouts and scouting directors admit they don't understand the intricacies of the position so they have one on staff just to evaluate goalies... Whoever the Hawks have employed, assuming they have one, has been horrid at best.

The Peeters kid was out of the USHL and this kid literally could not skate. I mean a couple times a game go behind his net, or out of his crease, and fall down. Kinda kid you felt sorry for watching cuz he's trying but is just so far in over his head .. I have to believe one of two things, they used a THIRD rd pick on this kid not seeing him or the person evaluating doesn't do goalies.

Simply said a fireable offense.

Basse by the way played for the same USHL club, Youngstown.

This. Not to mention he is arrogant, condescending, insulting and fairly regularly wrong.
- Ztra

I prefer my defenceman to have those qualities.

good old Hextall, i wouldn't take anything he fully says at face vaule. GM speak. hes a tender he knows they need a good one or they go nowhere.
- SaskHawkFan

They sign Rask in January when he's back from recovering from surgery?

I keep seeing this, are there many guys who never recover from an ACL procedure these days??

If anything, many report the surgery make's in stronger. Just don't get the stress over an ACL, not necessarily you, its just something I've read a lot over the last day or two.
- vabeachbear

ACL, MCL and meniscus.

The meniscus can be difficult due to the lack of blood flow as well as function.

ACL's and MCL's they've gotten pretty good at repairing.

McCabe has never played 82 games which I think was more the point there.

They sign Rask in January when he's back from recovering from surgery?
- Mr Ricochet

Rask said he will only sign with Boston.

They sign Rask in January when he's back from recovering from surgery?
- Mr Ricochet

Do you think he will play again? sounded like he might be done?

I thought after Stan spoke, he was really wanting Fleury in goal, not just GM speak. Better D, better Goalie. Allows Lanky to not get thrown to wolves.
- vabeachbear

It fits that Stan wants Fluery as a Hawk. Hawks are all in for a yr, Fluery fits under the cap with LTIR money giving them in season flexibility to make a move, they shed his money after the 1 yr, he still has some game putting up a career yr at 36 last yr, he can help Lankinen along, everywhere Fluery went he's seen as a fantastic teammate (did not know that until the trade) and he and Lankinen make a fine tandem with neither having to start 55 games.

Fits and checks a lotta boxes as long as fans/management don't expect last yrs numbers.

ACL, MCL and meniscus.

The meniscus can be difficult due to the lack of blood flow as well as function.

ACL's and MCL's they've gotten pretty good at repairing.

McCabe has never played 82 games which I think was more the point there.
- fattybeef

Like an NFL team, wouldn't Hawks docs have done a physical and checked him before they gave him 4 mil a year?

I know the organization is getting destroyed here the last few weeks, but do you really think they wouldn't have had a doc check him out, said he's been skating for a month.

Rask said he will only sign with Boston.
- LAHawk

Maybe. Rask is a funky dude and that's before he tries to come back from hip surgery at 34-35 yrs old. ............ Baaaaahstan did good covering their bases signing Ullmark and don't know if you saw 22 yr old Swaymen (USHL kid) play goal for them last yr but that kid was beyond fantastic. Looked like Spencer Knight throwing up, off the top of my head, a 7-3 record with a .945 SPG.

Looks like they don't need Rask but a rested Rask come January with Ullmark and Swayman able to be sent down Baaaahstan is in fine shape in goal with or without Rask.