ses111
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Seriously, when are some deals involving the isles going to be announced? We’re three days in and not a peep. - Jethro09
It would be nice to get something today. |
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Isleshockeyman
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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Isleshockeyman
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Location: Lou is our savior Joined: 11.05.2014
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It would be nice to get something today. - ses111
That would be nice. I kind of think that the announcements will all be at one time. Lou doesn't let anything slip out. |
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ses111
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That would be nice. I kind of think that the announcements will all be at one time. Lou doesn't let anything slip out. - Isleshockeyman
Seems like it IHM. I did not expect it to go 3 days but I'd rather Lou take his time and not rush into things which is not a real worry with Lou. |
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Cptmjl
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Cptmjl
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That would be nice. I kind of think that the announcements will all be at one time. Lou doesn't let anything slip out. - Isleshockeyman
I agree and I think it’s going to be one stop shopping with St Louis. Trying to find a way to make it work for both teams is most likely what’s going on and the reason for the delay. |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Seriously, when are some deals involving the isles going to be announced? We’re three days in and not a peep. - Jethro09
One hour before puck drop on opening night |
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eichiefs9
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I agree and I think it’s going to be one stop shopping with St Louis. Trying to find a way to make it work for both teams is most likely what’s going on and the reason for the delay. - Cptmjl
I'm honestly getting nervous that it'd be Beau or Wahlstrom if we do ultimately end up with Tarasenko |
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Cptmjl
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One hour before puck drop on opening night - eichiefs9
If trotz could get away with this I feel like he would. |
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Cptmjl
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I'm honestly getting nervous that it'd be Beau or Wahlstrom if we do ultimately end up with Tarasenko - eichiefs9
I can see Beau I know everyone here loves the guy but let’s face it he’s Marty Mcinnis lite and who knows what his contract demands are? I certainly don’t hate the guy but he’s not worth a whole helluva lot imo. Wahlstrom on the other hand is a younger, cost controlled, maybe better player then Beauvillier. Trading him would be beyond stupid and I doubt very much lameriello does. |
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ses111
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I can see Beau I know everyone here loves the guy but let’s face it he’s Marty Mcinnis lite and who knows what his contract demands are? I certainly don’t hate the guy but he’s not worth a whole helluva lot imo. Wahlstrom on the other hand is a younger, cost controlled, maybe better player then Beauvillier. Trading him would be beyond stupid and I doubt very much lameriello does. - Cptmjl
I like Beau but he has consistency issues. Wally is more of a pure goal scorer and has better size. I do not trade Wally. |
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slapshot018
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Location: 4, NY Joined: 08.04.2011
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I can see Beau I know everyone here loves the guy but let’s face it he’s Marty Mcinnis lite and who knows what his contract demands are? I certainly don’t hate the guy but he’s not worth a whole helluva lot imo. Wahlstrom on the other hand is a younger, cost controlled, maybe better player then Beauvillier. Trading him would be beyond stupid and I doubt very much lameriello does. - Cptmjl
beau is only 24 though. he is still growing as a player and helps keep the age of our core players down, and he does a lot more than just score goals. great player for this system. if tarasenko flops and walks in two years, isles could be in bad shape unless some prospects make some big jumps. i really want tarasenko, but i think the cost of beau is too rich for that kind of gamble. i would rather try to move beau in a package for another top 6 player that we would have a bit more control over. its not like if we trade beau, it has to be for tarasenko. |
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Cptmjl
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I like Beau but he has consistency issues. Wally is more of a pure goal scorer and has better size. I do not trade Wally. - ses111
I like Beauvillier too. He has scored some big goals for us in the playoffs but it’s not even a debate, for me at least, which one you give up between the two for the reasons I mentioned. |
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I like Beauvillier too. He has scored some big goals for us in the playoffs but it’s not even a debate, for me at least, which one you give up between the two for the reasons I mentioned. - Cptmjl
But the problem isn’t that your choosing between Wahlstrom and Beauvillier. The problem is that your choosing between Wahlstrom and Anna Kendrick/Beauvillier.
Don’t know about you guys, but that decision gives me pause. |
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eichiefs9
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I can see Beau I know everyone here loves the guy but let’s face it he’s Marty Mcinnis lite and who knows what his contract demands are? I certainly don’t hate the guy but he’s not worth a whole helluva lot imo. Wahlstrom on the other hand is a younger, cost controlled, maybe better player then Beauvillier. Trading him would be beyond stupid and I doubt very much lameriello does. - Cptmjl
Putting whatever his contract negotiations are aside for a second (not ignoring it) I think we're selling Beau a little short. I love the kid's energy and versatility and think he could be an important cog going forward.
As much as I'd be willing to roll the dice on Tarasenko's shoulder, Beau would be a tough loss for this roster for a what's really a risky proposition. I'd hope that STL would at least be retaining a good chunk of Vladdy's contract if Beau was the one going the other way.
That said, if he's asking for way too much in negotiations then I could understand the move |
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ses111
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I like Beauvillier too. He has scored some big goals for us in the playoffs but it’s not even a debate, for me at least, which one you give up between the two for the reasons I mentioned. - Cptmjl
I would still be nervous about giving up Beau for Tarasenko but if Isles are in win now mode I understand it. |
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Cptmjl
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beau is only 24 though. he is still growing as a player and helps keep the age of our core players down, and he does a lot more than just score goals. great player for this system. if tarasenko flops and walks in two years, isles could be in bad shape unless some prospects make some big jumps. i really want tarasenko, but i think the cost of beau is too rich for that kind of gamble. i would rather try to move beau in a package for another top 6 player that we would have a bit more control over. its not like if we trade beau, it has to be for tarasenko. - slapshot018
I would rather not trade Beau at all and find another way to shed salary. I honestly don’t think we need tarasenko that bad. Add Lee, Wahlstrom in a regular spot if he can handle it of course, get Komarov out of the (frank)ing lineup, Parise, Palmieri, and add a defenseman. That is a formidable lineup. (frank) tarasenko. |
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I would rather not trade Beau at all and find another way to shed salary. I honestly don’t think we need tarasenko that bad. Add Lee, Wahlstrom in a regular spot if he can handle it of course, get Komarov out of the (frank)ing lineup, Parise, Palmieri, and add a defenseman. That is a formidable lineup. (frank) tarasenko. - Cptmjl
True that.
I wonder if maybe the reason the negotiations appear so slow is because there is a 3rd team involved. 🤔 |
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Cptmjl
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Putting whatever his contract negotiations are aside for a second (not ignoring it) I think we're selling Beau a little short. I love the kid's energy and versatility and think he could be an important cog going forward.
As much as I'd be willing to roll the dice on Tarasenko's shoulder, Beau would be a tough loss for this roster for a what's really a risky proposition. I'd hope that STL would at least be retaining a good chunk of Vladdy's contract if Beau was the one going the other way.
That said, if he's asking for way too much in negotiations then I could understand the move - eichiefs9
I would rather not trade Beau at all. You’re the one who threw out your concern because you’re thinking it’s Beau or Wahlstrom going to St. Louis for tarasenko.
Either would be a complete overpay imo for a guy with his injury history, salary, and the fact the entire world knows he wants out. I can’t envision a way it’s not an overpay unless there’s more to the deal with a lot of salary retention in all honesty.
With all of this said if we were to trade either player who would you rather it be Wahlstrom or Beau? |
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ses111
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Putting whatever his contract negotiations are aside for a second (not ignoring it) I think we're selling Beau a little short. I love the kid's energy and versatility and think he could be an important cog going forward.
As much as I'd be willing to roll the dice on Tarasenko's shoulder, Beau would be a tough loss for this roster for a what's really a risky proposition. I'd hope that STL would at least be retaining a good chunk of Vladdy's contract if Beau was the one going the other way.
That said, if he's asking for way too much in negotiations then I could understand the move - eichiefs9
It's a very difficult decision on moving Beau. Can prospects like Räty or Holmstrom help down the line in losing Beau? Being in Belmont now should help in terms of signing UFA's. The question is do the Isles think they have enough at forward without Tarasenko to get past Tampa? |
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Cptmjl
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True that.
I wonder if maybe the reason the negotiations appear so slow is because there is a 3rd team involved. 🤔 - Wildschwein
Could be? Rarely happens but with both teams cap issues it’s plausible. |
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Could be? Rarely happens but with both teams cap issues it’s plausible. - Cptmjl
Maybe Arizona Armstrong wants a couple more 2nd round picks? |
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Cptmjl
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Maybe Arizona Armstrong wants a couple more 2nd round picks? - Wildschwein
Along with some Komarov and Hickey. |
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Along with some Komarov and Hickey. - Cptmjl
I can’t envision a trade for Tarasenko that does not include them in some way. |
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eichiefs9
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I would rather not trade Beau at all. You’re the one who threw out your concern out there because you’re thinking it’s Beau or Wahlstrom going to St. Louis for tarasenko.
Either would be a complete overpay imo for a guy with his injury history, salary, and the fact the entire world knows he wants out. I can’t envision a way it’s not an overpay unless there’s more to the deal with a lot of salary retention in all honesty.
With all of this said if we were to trade either player who would you rather it be Wahlstrom or Beau? - Cptmjl
I'm just going off of what the Blues writer had talked about in his article:
Armstrong could make more cushion with the trade of Tarasenko, and with Saad’s cap hit coming in somewhat lower than expected, perhaps the Blues GM would be willing to retain more of Tarasenko’s $7.5 million cap hit than in previous talks around the league. If the Islanders are indeed back in the mix, they have approximately $17.6 million in available cap space but have three RFAs of their own to sign: forward Anthony Beauvillier, defenseman Adam Pelech and goalie Ilya Sorokin.
Beauvillier, 24, a left winger, has been mentioned as a possible candidate to be dealt by the Islanders in some trade conversations, including a Tarasenko deal. The Isles were on Tarasenko’s original trade list and sources have said that he would accept a move there.
I mean it's a tough call, deciding who we'd give up if it absolutely had to be one of them. Beau is a much more well-rounded player and more versatile. Wahlstrom has a wicked shot, has the potential to be a dynamic goal scorer, and is younger and still on his ELC for two more seasons. I guess I'd have to lean Beauvillier, but I also really don't want to lose either for such a risky proposition. I just think Wahlstrom had 30+g potential and can turn the tide of a game with one shot. He had almost as many goals and points as Beauvillier did despite playing 4 less games and averaging four minutes less time on ice. |
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