Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

That ought to liven things up around here!

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

Oh boy

That ought to liven things up around here!
- Tonybere

😂 my battery is dying too

I think hits, like any other stat, needs context. If you have 30 hits in a game and 25 of them come in your defensive zone, you are losing that game. If you have 30 hits and 25 are hits below the opponents goal line while forechecking, that means you likely hemmed the opponent in their zone and probably wore out the defense. There's a good change you're winning that game. Saying lots of hits are bad is just as incomplete a statement as sating lots of hits are good
- SkjeiStadium

I would agree. My concern is that this isn't late 90s early 00s hockey anymore. You need skill and compete level up and down the lineup not just checking enough boxes for toughness or grit. Goodrow is a good player and contributes to other areas of the game. Reaves and Blais I just don't see being a factor in a hockey sense.

I would agree. My concern is that this isn't late 90s early 00s hockey anymore. You need skill and compete level up and down the lineup not just checking enough boxes for toughness or grit. Goodrow is a good player and contributes to other areas of the game. Reaves and Blais I just don't see being a factor in a hockey sense.
- Maskdman3

Blais isn’t bad tho. Injury prone because he plays hard. He has some offense. Kind of like Prust

That ought to liven things up around here!
- Tonybere

Honestly I'm fine with that

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 2m
Ryan Reaves and NYR agree on a two-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)


Wow

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

And in addition, the Rangers having discussions with Reaves about his willingness to play second line center.

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

Honestly if this is the direction they have decided to go and committed resources to doing it at least they are following through with it. Not sure why they feel the need to commit to it now instead of waiting until January to see how things progress though.

Honestly I'm fine with that
- MeltingPlastic

Lbh..the only reason Reaves is here is because of Tom Wilson. And I’m extremely fone with that. I piss on that 3rd rder

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

YES!!

Another thing no one really mentions regarding these moves is, these are Gallant type players. He’s allowed to have his kind of guy if he’s the HC isn’t he? Which also says to me they may want to wait out a big trade involving prospects because they haven’t played under Gallant yet. Like Chytil for example. I feel like maybe seeing what he is under him is the best way to go about it instead of moving him. Eichel can wait, which could the plan all along

I truly believe that JD and Gortan were fired because they didn’t have the same vision that this kind of infusion needed to be done. Maybe they would have done it slowly over time, but Drury just got it all out of the way quickly
- Slimtj100

I like the players we’ve brought in, I hate what we’ve given up to get them if that makes sense. Just bc we have depth to make trades/had a lot of picks doesn’t mean we should just give them away. If we wanted Blais that bad why didn’t we just trade him 1 for 1 for a guy like Hajek/Gauthier etc. and don’t say bc it takes 2 to tango blah blah blah. Blais was in his coaches dog house bc of poor conditioning amongst other problems. Even if we gave up a 3rd or 4th for Blais, Buch was a huge trade chip and I think we rushed that one to fill gaps that we felt we needed to fill. At the time was this the best offer on the table? Maybe. But if that offer isn’t a good one u don’t HAVE to make that trade. Let free agency settle and see what teams need what, maybe the offer gets better from another team or maybe it stays the same. I think we’ve played our hand and other teams know that, part of it is Dolans fault but if we sign Goodrow and Ritchie I think teams would have a much harder time reading how much more we wanted to add.

Its not about line brawls ---- its about hits/physicality!
Here is a fun stat for you to consider:

2021 Hits per 60 mins ( minimum 25 games played ) 607 NHL Forwards qualified:

Ryan Reaves #1 overall

Dryden Hunt # 5 overall

Sam Blais # 22 overall

See the trend???


Edit: TJ ---just saw your post while I was doing my research
- TommyGTrain

It was an exaggeration based on the number of players they had already added who are much more physical than the roster the Rangers had last year. The assertion that they added only one guy (Reaves) who can fight is ridiculous.

You missed Tinordi

Agree with your sentiment that Strome is a good center and our obsession with finding his replacement is a little overblown and rushed, although I do think faceoffs are an issue that need to be addressed to a certain degree at some point in the lineup.

All that being said I think the comparison to Barzal is a tough one. The stats may be similar but Strome is not the electric player that teams build a gameplan around like Barzal is. Strome scores those points in Zib's shadow and mostly with Panarin by his side. He's damn good at it, but if he saw the attention that Barzal sees I don't think the stats would be all that close
- SkjeiStadium

I see what you are saying,but NYR doesn't need Strome to be Barzal. Having Zib allows Strome to put up those numbers as a 2nd line center. Obviously, Strome's value will change once he gets paid for his performance over the past few years.

I would agree. My concern is that this isn't late 90s early 00s hockey anymore. You need skill and compete level up and down the lineup not just checking enough boxes for toughness or grit. Goodrow is a good player and contributes to other areas of the game. Reaves and Blais I just don't see being a factor in a hockey sense.
- Maskdman3

I think Blais is just getting a rep as a hitter, he would’ve finished with around 35 pts over an 82 game season.

Honestly if this is the direction they have decided to go and committed resources to doing it at least they are following through with it. Not sure why they feel the need to commit to it now instead of waiting until January to see how things progress though.
- Maskdman3

All is really doing is being proactive. He can spend a little bit like a drunken sailor for a few years with so many ELCs

I see what you are saying,but NYR doesn't need Strome to be Barzal. Having Zib allows Strome to put up those numbers as a 2nd line center. Obviously, Strome's value will change once he gets paid for his performance over the past few years.
- rrentz

My question is this, because I don't know the possible trade landscape well enough right now: If it isn't Eichel, what other centers could potentially be had that are a substantial upgrade from Strome?

It's not that I don't love Eichel's talent, just the medical uncertainty couple with what the cost would be to get him sets off huge flashing red warning lights for me.

And another thing, I'm older than most on here and I watched them for years before my favorite Ranger came along: Barry Beck. I've been missing the physicality of a big hitter like him -- who could actually play the game as well as throw 'em -- for a long time now. I want a lot of that element in the Rangers' game, but enough is enough.

I think Blais is just getting a rep as a hitter, he would’ve finished with around 35 pts over an 82 game season.
- nyrangers9479

The cup year he was very good for them. Just being a presence every shift, not necessarily production. He’s a good fit for them for sure. People just need to see him play first

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
· 4m
In addition to trade to NYR, team and Ryan Reaves working on a one-year extension around his previous AAV ($1.75M)
- picklerick

What do all the “a 3rd round for only one year of Reaves” haters have to say now

Now we get 2 years!!!

I like the players we’ve brought in, I hate what we’ve given up to get them if that makes sense. Just bc we have depth to make trades/had a lot of picks doesn’t mean we should just give them away. If we wanted Blais that bad why didn’t we just trade him 1 for 1 for a guy like Hajek/Gauthier etc. and don’t say bc it takes 2 to tango blah blah blah. Blais was in his coaches dog house bc of poor conditioning amongst other problems. Even if we gave up a 3rd or 4th for Blais, Buch was a huge trade chip and I think we rushed that one to fill gaps that we felt we needed to fill. At the time was this the best offer on the table? Maybe. But if that offer isn’t a good one u don’t HAVE to make that trade. Let free agency settle and see what teams need what, maybe the offer gets better from another team or maybe it stays the same. I think we’ve played our hand and other teams know that, part of it is Dolans fault but if we sign Goodrow and Ritchie I think teams would have a much harder time reading how much more we wanted to add.
- nyrangers9479

I just love how we all know better than the guy on the phone with other GM's what the market for Buch was.
It's done. Welcome to New York Sammy. Have some pizza, but not too much!!

All i know is there are going to be people eating crow one way or the other, and Im gonna be sitting here eating popcorn watching the nuclear firestorm.

All i know is there are going to be people eating crow one way or the other, and Im gonna be sitting here eating popcorn watching the nuclear firestorm.
- aecliptic

I am actually pretty optimistic about the upcoming season, and I think they were smart to start adding a good amount of grit. Maybe it's overkill, but they needed it.

My question is this, because I don't know the possible trade landscape well enough right now: If it isn't Eichel, what other centers could potentially be had that are a substantial upgrade from Strome?

It's not that I don't love Eichel's talent, just the medical uncertainty couple with what the cost would be to get him sets off huge flashing red warning lights for me.
- Pete V

The latest offer the Rangers made, per Brooks, is Kravstov + Georgiev + Jones + 1st.

I’m all about that.

My one hesitation is does Eichel’s contract make it impossible to extend Zibanejad? Because then what? We just let Zib walk for free next summer?

And then we end up stuck with Strome as the 2C anyway.