Guarantee that by November everyone is clamoring about how we need more depth bc we only have 2 lines that can score
- Maskdman3

If we can roll a 3rd line of Kreider Goodrow Ritchie we’ll have 3 lines that can score and a 4th line that hits everything that moves Blais Rooney Reaves

If we can roll a 3rd line of Kreider Goodrow Ritchie we’ll have 3 lines that can score and a 4th line that hits everything that moves Blais Rooney Reaves
- nyrangers9479

This is assuming kakko and krav take the leap we all hope they do

Because you are all nuts

It’s a 3rd rd pick!! Like literally, 3% he’ll actually be a Ranger someday this pick
- Slimtj100

2013-2019

Buchnevich
Duclair
Iverson
Zibrovsky
Saarela
Day
Ragnerson
Keane
Jones

3/9 are NHL players and Keane will likely be. So it’s either 33% or 44% if Keane makes it.

This is assuming kakko and krav take the leap we all hope they do
- picklerick

I think Panarin and Zib will carry their lines regardless

(1) Drury/Dolan/or whomever have taken this toughness need to an over extreme level now, instead of even filling for one, their need still for another center, unless planning to convert Laff. to one.

(2) Dolan exploded late last season after 3 Ranger season ending injuries:
*Wilson's rag dolling of Panarin, which also resulted in a $250,000 fine for Dolan after blasting George Parros & the Dep't of Player Safety, for his minimal at best suspension his department handed Wilson.
**Incidents in 2 of the 3 final Rangers/Isles games, when the Rangers still had a shot at surpassing them for the final playoff spot. The first when Trouba was concussed sustaining Matt Martin's hard hit into the boards/glass; followed by in a later matchup Clutterbuck's hard high hit injuring Lindgren also idling him.

(3) Some here are forgetting that last season was a 56 games Pandemic shortened one with re-aligned close by geographical divisions, in having teams in this case of the Metro. Div. play the 7 others 8 games each. So the Rangers played the most physically tough teams (Isles, Caps, Flyers, & Bruins) a combined 32 games (i.e., 57% of their schedule).

Per expansion, the Rangers are scheduled to play those same 4 teams a combined total of only 14 games in return to an 82 games schedule (i.e., 17% of their schedule), but with Boston out of their div. as prior to last season.

Yes, there are other tough physical teams the Rangers will instead play among their other 68 games, but predominantly non divisional ones, even if in their Conference. Last season, all 56 games were 4 point head to head div. battles contributing to some extra physical beatings & injuries they sustained.

If anything I give Drury credit for being proactive. Get a playoff ready team ready before it actually makes the playoffs

One thing is for sure, everyone of these moves has visions of deep playoff runs. Because that’s the type player you need in the playoffs. From Hunt to Goodrow to Reaves, every one of their style of game, is a playoff type game.

We lost so far:

Buch- ok we’ll miss him, but can we not replace him? Umm yes we can
Howden- good riddance
Smith- good guy in the room, replaced by 4-5 good guys in the room
Deangelo- whatevs. Like we even needed him
Diguiseppe- See Howden

I mean cmon! Drury hasn’t even lost a single prospect yet...but omg! We don’t have a 3rder. Kill him!!!

This is called perspective. Good night all.

Btw, Jimmy is sorry. It was a joke gone wrong. It happens. He would never actually wish for someone to get ALS. At the same time, peeps need to lighten up. Just my two cents
- Slimtj100

You forgot to list among those lost for one, the immortal Jack Johnson.


But you also forgot about Colin Blackwell lost to Seattle in the Exp. Draft.

Some have to make up for the offensive production lost in Buch and Blackwell, which they have barely replaced in their moves for toughness. But that excludes both Laff. and Kakko first needing to advance in development & produce greater offensively for this team to just contend for a playoff spot. Should both produce sufficiently, plus others replace that lost offensive production of Buch & Blackwell, they may win at minimum one playoff round, provided they also acquire a center lower in cap & trade cost than Eichel.

The reality is reeves will only dress for the caps and isles game. It will be fun to watch him toy with Wilson and Martin. I honestly think this team is more balanced then last year. Clearly the plan the last 3 years wasn’t perfect as their record shows
- nyrangers2

You don't trade a 3rd Rounder for a low ranked tough player with little speed to initially play in a total of ONLY 7 specific Reg. Season games combined against the Caps & Isles this coming season, for purposes only "to toy with Wilson & Martin." They had already acquired toughness & grit in 6 other players, 5 of which will be on their pro roster.

As per record wise the past 3 years goes, re-read their rebuild letter issued back then; since as warned, they were not favorites to win the Cup in each of the past 3 seasons to reach "perfection."

Dumb decision firing JD and gorton… they were building something great in ny… and now drury is bringing the team back into the caveman days with big slow dopes… lol

If we are gonna freak over losing 3rd picks, then people need meds. This is not a big deal holy (frank)
- Slimtj100

And you’re not freaking out right

Heres the thing with this trade.

1. VGK needed cap space. So were actually helping them out here by picking up Reaves.
2. If this was a 29 year old Reaves, sure, all for it, happily trade a 3rd round pick for a human wrecking ball for the next 5 years. But hes not, hes 35. We may get 1 more year out of him.

This should have been a 5th round pick for Reaves.

I wonder if there were other suitors for Reaves, but Gallant and Drury were adamant about getting Reaves they were willing to do this.

Heres the thing with this trade.

1. VGK needed cap space. So were actually helping them out here by picking up Reaves.
2. If this was a 29 year old Reaves, sure, all for it, happily trade a 3rd round pick for a human wrecking ball for the next 5 years. But hes not, hes 35. We may get 1 more year out of him.

This should have been a 5th round pick for Reaves.

I wonder if there were other suitors for Reaves, but Gallant and Drury were adamant about getting Reaves they were willing to do this.
- aecliptic

If there were other suitors u let him go. He’s a 5th round pick at this point. If they gave them back the 4th we got for Howden, it is what it is. But we overpayed by a round or 2.

Fair enough and thank you for responding...I'd give anything to have a blogger here that does that for the Pens
Can't argue the Buch return...I would have easily given you Tanev or Zucker and a 2nd or more to see what he could do with Geno for the 20 games Geno will play.
I hope he changes your mind and being a NY'er for 55 years, I watch a fair amount of Ranger games(Pens off nights of course), but I will definitely watch more this year just to see Reaves.

Edit - and I have met your "man behind the curtain" a few times...you have my sincere sympathy, at Cablevision we just called him Arthur
- Pags

Let's all take a look at the bolded for 15 minutes or so people.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one is entitled to be a jerk about it. Let's ALL simmer down a bit.

If there were other suitors u let him go. He’s a 5th round pick at this point. If they gave them back the 4th we got for Howden, it is what it is. But we overpayed by a round or 2.
- nyrangers9479

At first blush, I did not like this trade one bit. After a cooling off period, it's not the end of the world. Is a 3rd too much? Probably, yeah. But, even those opposed agree it's only by a round or two. We were the ones going asking for him. That drives up the price right there.
I think the biggest questions this should raise are to do with what the waiver status of our call ups are. Some are rightfully worried about depth scoring. Well, if it turns into a problem you pull Reaves and put in Gauthier. We also have Barron waiting in the wings. Jones can go in for Tinordi.
Long story short, we still have flexibility and should be able to show different looks where before we were one dimensional.
As for Drury, you can't talk about "the man behind the curtain" and then poop on Drury for trying to salvage hockey trades out of impatient demands.

Don’t mind the trade. Too bad it wasn’t a Howden for Reeves trade straight up. Guess we can look at it as Howden and a 6th for Reeves?? I’ll take that too. Nothing wrong with a 4th line rotation based on the matchup. Hope Hunt gets a decent look still. Tough kid who put up 116 point in the WHL.

Let's all take a look at the bolded for 15 minutes or so people.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one is entitled to be a jerk about it. Let's ALL simmer down a bit.
- Tonybere

Ya I couldn’t believe the responses before. I read a bunch of the blogs on here and Jan is by far the best. Goes out of his way with all the stuff he has going on to always get fresh blogs up when something happens with the team and if he can’t get one up right away he keeps us in the loop. I think everyone needs to relax a bit, Jan has an opinion of something which hes allowed to have (and I agree with), u have yours that’s great.

At first blush, I did not like this trade one bit. After a cooling off period, it's not the end of the world. Is a 3rd too much? Probably, yeah. But, even those opposed agree it's only by a round or two. We were the ones going asking for him. That drives up the price right there.
I think the biggest questions this should raise are to do with what the waiver status of our call ups are. Some are rightfully worried about depth scoring. Well, if it turns into a problem you pull Reaves and put in Gauthier. We also have Barron waiting in the wings. Jones can go in for Tinordi.
Long story short, we still have flexibility and should be able to show different looks where before we were one dimensional.
As for Drury, you can't talk about "the man behind the curtain" and then poop on Drury for trying to salvage hockey trades out of impatient demands.
- Tonybere

The over payment by a round or 2 is going to happen once in a while. But how does Reaves go for a 3rd but Buch only goes for a 2nd and 4th line grinder? Seems Drury lost both of these trades so far and the Howden deal looks to be fair value.

The over payment by a round or 2 is going to happen once in a while. But how does Reaves go for a 3rd but Buch only goes for a 2nd and 4th line grinder? Seems Drury lost both of these trades so far and the Howden deal looks to be fair value.
- nyrangers9479

I think a quality fourth line grinder is more valuable trade wise than people think. With that said, I’ve never really watched or paid attention to Blais, so I’m not sure how quality he is. But if he’s a Brandon Prust kind of guy, a 4th liner that can single handedly change the momentum of the game with a shift, then he carries some solid value.

Think back to when we had Prust in his prime. Would we have traded him for a 4th round pick? Probably not…even though he was just a 4th line grinder, because the intangibles he brought on and off the ice to the team were worth more than that.

How much would a team trade for a guy like Matt Martin or Cal Clutterbuck?

I think that it is worth noting that the Rangers have had 42 draft picks in the last 5 years. They have been flush with picks and have put dozens of guys into the system.

Am I thrilled with giving up a third? No. But also think that if he can help the team this year, playing in the select few games we may need him and being a good locker room guy, I’m fine with it. The Rangers prospect pool is strong and if this makes them a more difficult team to play against, I have no major issue with it.

And Jan, it’s been a long time! Hope you and the family are doing well.

Ryan Reaves in the division now? (Flyers fan here)

I don't like the Rags on a regular day but I really don't like you guys right now

I could careless about getting Reaves BUT I’m afraid it’s Sather running the team. This has his MO all over it

I think that it is worth noting that the Rangers have had 42 draft picks in the last 5 years. They have been flush with picks and have put dozens of guys into the system.

Am I thrilled with giving up a third? No. But also think that if he can help the team this year, playing in the select few games we may need him and being a good locker room guy, I’m fine with it. The Rangers prospect pool is strong and if this makes them a more difficult team to play against, I have no major issue with it.

And Jan, it’s been a long time! Hope you and the family are doing well.
- Pete V

Rangers fans have lost they damn minds Pete

If he plays only 6 games, all vs the caps, preventing that lunatic from KOing one of our guys, that alone was worth the 3rd rd pick

2013-2019

Buchnevich
Duclair
Iverson
Zibrovsky
Saarela
Day
Ragnerson
Keane
Jones

3/9 are NHL players and Keane will likely be. So it’s either 33% or 44% if Keane makes it.
- nyrangers9479

This is the definition of cherry picking stats. You started your window in the year that we drafted two nhl players in the 3rd round in 2013 (which you left Tambellini out of, so 3/10 in your window). If you do 2014-2019, you get 1/7.

If you go back to 2005 you can add in:

Dupont
Flatt
Hillier
Grachev
Kundratek
Borque
Fogarty

None of those guys are regular NHLers and they've played a combined 82 games. So going back to 2005, 3/17 3rd rounders are NHL players, or 17% and that's including Jones who has played 10 games.

The over payment by a round or 2 is going to happen once in a while. But how does Reaves go for a 3rd but Buch only goes for a 2nd and 4th line grinder? Seems Drury lost both of these trades so far and the Howden deal looks to be fair value.
- nyrangers9479

If it seems the going rate for a 4th line grinder is a 3rd, then we can look at the Buch deal as the equivalent of a 2nd and a 3rd which isn't too bad

At first blush, I did not like this trade one bit. After a cooling off period, it's not the end of the world. Is a 3rd too much? Probably, yeah. But, even those opposed agree it's only by a round or two. We were the ones going asking for him. That drives up the price right there.
I think the biggest questions this should raise are to do with what the waiver status of our call ups are. Some are rightfully worried about depth scoring. Well, if it turns into a problem you pull Reaves and put in Gauthier. We also have Barron waiting in the wings. Jones can go in for Tinordi.
Long story short, we still have flexibility and should be able to show different looks where before we were one dimensional.
As for Drury, you can't talk about "the man behind the curtain" and then poop on Drury for trying to salvage hockey trades out of impatient demands.
- Tonybere

Stop copying what I said at a want to early of an hour. Well, the first part. All the other stuff you said I didn't even read. You typed too much.

I don't understand the Ritchie comparison. Boston declined to qualify Ritchie at his $2M because he was asking for a good bit more than that after a season where he got significant time on the first powerplay unit. I've seen rumors that he is asking for close to $4M with term. How is that comparable to bringing in a guy for $1.75M for 1 year. Sure Ritchie is the better player but Reeves allows us flexibility going into next offseason which is when we need it most, and gives us some extra muscle that we can move in and out of the lineup when needed.