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Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Aug 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
What if they sent Strome and DeHaan to Ottawa for a 2nd round pick and Logan Brown?
- ikeane

Not sure Ottawa would do that, that’s about a $7.5M cap hit. Logan is a RFA and hasn’t done much in the NHL, could probably sign him for $1M.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Not sure Ottawa would do that, that’s about a $7.5M cap hit. Logan is a RFA and hasn’t done much in the NHL, could probably sign him for $1M.
- Angotti

Ottawa is ~8M from the cap floor. Though, they do have Tkachuk and Batherson as RFAs to sign.

The actual cash is prolly too much for their cheap owner, tho. As for Brown, he does fit the reclamation angle Bowman likes.

If they are interested in Monahan or Strome, that would be money better spent for the Sens.
CSKA1981
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
It looks like DeHaan will not be moved before the season begins unless there is an injury to a top 4d and DeHaan is healthy. Otherwise, DeHaan is moved at the deadline given that Hawks are out of playoff and he is healthy.

Strome will probably be moved to a team that needs a middle six C, misses out on Eichel, or has an RFA that they are not happy with. Potentially Anaheim, Boston, Montreal, Minnesota or Buffalo.

Connolly is here to stay unless equally bad contract is coming back.
Angotti
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Aug 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
How many 3rd rounders does a team need? My guess? Strome will be packaged with Mitchell/Beaudin to get maybe a 2nd.
- Elbows15

You never know, Stan might hit on one of those third rounders. Strome only makes $3M, I could be wrong, but I don’t think a sweetener is needed to move him. I would not move Mitchell, not as a sweetener anyway.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 2:05 PM ET
You never know, Stan might hit on one of those third rounders. Strome only makes $3M, I could be wrong, but I don’t think a sweetener is needed to move him. I would not move Mitchell, not as a sweetener anyway.
- Angotti


I wouldn't either...or Beaudin and don't really see the Hawks doing that. I'd be surprised anyway if they just gave those guys away.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Aug 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
You never know, Stan might hit on one of those third rounders. Strome only makes $3M, I could be wrong, but I don’t think a sweetener is needed to move him. I would not move Mitchell, not as a sweetener anyway.
- Angotti

I wouldn't either but I am just guessing what Bowman is going to do. They have some cap issues this season and moving Strome and Connelly is one way to make some cap space.

They both suck in their own way and really have no place on the Hawks.
Elbows15
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Aug 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
It looks like DeHaan will not be moved before the season begins unless there is an injury to a top 4d and DeHaan is healthy. Otherwise, DeHaan is moved at the deadline given that Hawks are out of playoff and he is healthy.

Strome will probably be moved to a team that needs a middle six C, misses out on Eichel, or has an RFA that they are not happy with. Potentially Anaheim, Boston, Montreal, Minnesota or Buffalo.

Connolly is here to stay unless equally bad contract is coming back.

- CSKA1981


I will be thrilled if there is one team that finds value in Strome. I would move him for a conditional 7th but I am sure the Hawks value him a bit higher than that.
CSKA1981
Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
I will be thrilled if there is one team that finds value in Strome. I would move him for a conditional 7th but I am sure the Hawks value him a bit higher than that.
- Elbows15


Strome is a very low-risk option. If he does not perform, he can be cut. If he does, he is an cost controlled RFA. Still young at 24.

I feel that Bowman is either looking for 2rd pick, or there is uncertainty with Toews, that's why he is still on the team.

Strome for 3rd is a no brainer for a team that needs a middle 6 forward. Freaking Reaves got a 3rd rounder.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Aug 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
Strome is a very low-risk option. If he does not perform, he can be cut. If he does, he is an cost controlled RFA. Still young at 24.

I feel that Bowman is either looking for 2rd pick, or there is uncertainty with Toews, that's why he is still on the team.

Strome for 3rd is a no brainer for a team that needs a middle 6 forward. Freaking Reaves got a 3rd rounder.

- CSKA1981

Hawks have enough center options without Strome to cover Toews. We saw that last year and it didn't go well. Johnson/Borgstrom/Kurahev are all better options than Strome.

I think if it was so easy to move Strome, it would have been done already. At this point, accept you lost that trade, unload him and move on.


BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
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Aug 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
Hawks have enough center options without Strome to cover Toews. We saw that last year and it didn't go well. Johnson/Borgstrom/Kurahev are all better options than Strome.

I think if it was so easy to move Strome, it would have been done already. At this point, accept you lost that trade, unload him and move on.

- Elbows15


Then why protect him?

The cost controlled teams are lined up to trade for him.

The Strome hate is strong in this one.
Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
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Aug 1 @ 3:40 PM ET
Then why protect him?

The cost controlled teams are lined up to trade for him.

The Strome hate is strong in this one.

- BetweenTheDots

Why protect Kampf and Suter and not extend QOs?

They are? Got any rumors?

Definitely. He sucks.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
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Aug 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
Why protect Kampf and Suter and not extend QOs?

They are? Got any rumors?

Definitely. He sucks.

- Elbows15


Yea Bowman (frank)ed that up

Maybe the fax machine broke, hahaha
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BenPo.../1421903154522767364?s=01

Nice ride for MAF, looks like the Blackhawks are going to take care of him
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Aug 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1421903154522767364?s=01

Nice ride for MAF, looks like the Blackhawks are going to take care of him

- BetweenTheDots

Didn't Giggle Pants Hawk say it was all over the internet "he wasn't coming"
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 02.04.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
I will be thrilled if there is one team that finds value in Strome. I would move him for a conditional 7th but I am sure the Hawks value him a bit higher than that.
- Elbows15


Strome's buyout cap hit is zero in year one, and $600K in year 2. https://www.capfriendly.c...t-calculator/dylan-strome
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:17 PM ET
If Stan can move Strome, deHaan and Connolly (and yes it is unlikely he will be able to move any of them) let's compare last season's opening night vs potential opening night this season.

If this seasons's player is an upgrade +, downgrade -, or a push =.

Last Year / This Year

Centers
Suter / Dach +
Strome / Toews ++ (if healthy)
Wallmark / Johnson +
Kampf / Kurashev -

Wings
Kane / Kane =
Debrincat / Debrincat =
Kubalik / Kubalik =
Shaw / Hagel =
Janmark / Nylander (if healthy) or Reichel ?/=/-
Carpenter / Khaira =
Pirri / Gaudette +
Highmore - Borgstom +

Dmen
Zadorov / S Jones +
Kieth / McCabe (if healthy) =?
Murphy / Murphy =
deHaan / Stillman =?
Boqvist / Kalynuk -
Mitchell / C.Jones =

Goalies
Subban / Fleury +
Delia / Lankinen +

I think even Elbows might agree that on paper we are a better team now. Of course he could contend (and rightfully so) that Toews, Nylander and McCabe will not be healthy or will only be a shadow of their former selves.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:21 PM ET
Yea Bowman (frank)ed that up

Maybe the fax machine broke, hahaha

- BetweenTheDots


So you are saying Stan should have protected Quenneville? lol
LaheysBRandy
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.28.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:25 PM ET
I think moving Strome right now doesn’t really make any sense, we would literally be selling him at his lowest value. I think the Hawks hope he has a bounce back season and they resign him or move him next year when he has more value. Trading him now is bad asset management IMO.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:37 PM ET
Strome's buyout cap hit is zero in year one, and $600K in year 2. https://www.capfriendly.c...t-calculator/dylan-strome
- 333inthe3rd


No reason to, i believe they can go up to $85,400,000 since Shaw will not be playing this year, that's what Bolts did last year, the Leafs the year before
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 1 @ 4:37 PM ET
I think moving Strome right now doesn’t really make any sense, we would literally be selling him at his lowest value. I think the Hawks hope he has a bounce back season and they resign him or move him next year when he has more value. Trading him now is bad asset management IMO.
- LaheysBRandy


Maybe his value has flatlined.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
I guess if Stan would of qualified Z, Suter and Kampf and they went to arbitration and won them he'd be stuck with those contracts

He did qualify Z but I'm assuming he had something worked out with Calgary already
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 1 @ 4:42 PM ET
So you are saying Stan should have protected Quenneville? lol
- -Doh-

#ASF
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 1 @ 4:43 PM ET
So you are saying Stan should have protected Quenneville? lol
- -Doh-


I can see why Francis was fired from the Canes, yikes Quenneville, hahaha
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 1 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think moving Strome right now doesn’t really make any sense, we would literally be selling him at his lowest value. I think the Hawks hope he has a bounce back season and they resign him or move him next year when he has more value. Trading him now is bad asset management IMO.
- LaheysBRandy


Bad asset management is what Stan is good at.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Aug 1 @ 5:21 PM ET
I think moving Strome right now doesn’t really make any sense, we would literally be selling him at his lowest value. I think the Hawks hope he has a bounce back season and they resign him or move him next year when he has more value. Trading him now is bad asset management IMO.
- LaheysBRandy

Yes it would be, if indeed he was an asset, which he’s not to the Hawks IMO. He may add some value to a bottom feeder with less talent down the middle, however the Hawks do have some talent down the middle, even if they end up being a bottom feeder team.
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