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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 8:56 AM ET
They weren’t running buch kappo and Kravs in the top 9. They don’t all fit. Buch was the odd man out after Kreider got his extension. The return was bad, the idea to trade him was not. I would’ve moved him at the deadline this year
- nyrangers2


Wow, I guess the Rangers are going to be really good this year and the prohibitive favorites to win the Cup. When a player rapidly moving towards being a 30 goal point a game player doesn't fit. They must really have something special going on.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 30 @ 8:59 AM ET
Reeves wasn’t holding back Vegas from being a contender these passed three seasons. Neither has Wilson for the caps. In fact Wilson and Reeves faced each other three years ago in the Stanley Cup Final. I would love to pick up at least one guy who plays this style. I’ve always liked Zach Kassian.

In my opinion our mix of forwards isn’t a good one.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 30 @ 8:59 AM ET
Wow, I guess the Rangers are going to be really good this year and the prohibitive favorites to win the Cup. When a player rapidly moving towards being a 30 goal point a game player doesn't fit. They must really have something special going on.
- MJL


If they pay him $5.8m how do they resign Mika, fox, while adding to the bottom 6. Buch is a good player but they expect Kravs and Kakko to eventually make up his production. They will be a better team this year than the last 3
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:04 AM ET
When he runs Provy through the end boards it won’t look so stupid…he plays a heavy, heavy game….6-7 minutes a night. No one will run their star players or they’ll answer. Wilson would not of ragdolled their best player had he been in the lineup.

- landros 2



That is IF he is even in the lineup. If Reaves is out there during a Provorov shift I would posit that we are playing in their zone.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:04 AM ET
Reeves wasn’t holding back Vegas from being a contender these passed three seasons. Neither has Wilson for the caps. In fact Wilson and Reeves faced each other three years ago in the Stanley Cup Final. I would love to pick up at least one guy who plays this style. I’ve always liked Zach Kassian.

In my opinion our mix of forwards isn’t a good one.

- SuperSchennBros


A lot of smallish/soft players who go through prolonged scoring droughts. I agree with you it isn't a good mix.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:05 AM ET
If they pay him $5.8m how do they resign Mika, fox, while adding to the bottom 6. Buch is a good player but they expect Kravs and Kakko to eventually make up his production. They will be a better team this year than the last 3
- nyrangers2


Well the first place I would start is not paying Ryan Reaves 1.75M. Although Goodrow is a good player, Buchnevich is better. Of course if they didn't make the deal, they also wouldn't have Blais. That 6.8M right there
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 30 @ 9:10 AM ET
Ryan Reaves a Ranger.

This should be interesting.

- MBFlyerfan


i remember when certain people wanted the flyers to sign him a couple of years ago.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:14 AM ET
Wow, I guess the Rangers are going to be really good this year and the prohibitive favorites to win the Cup. When a player rapidly moving towards being a 30 goal point a game player doesn't fit. They must really have something special going on.
- MJL


Poor Rangers are caught in the bias for action trap too.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:18 AM ET
Reeves wasn’t holding back Vegas from being a contender these passed three seasons. Neither has Wilson for the caps. In fact Wilson and Reeves faced each other three years ago in the Stanley Cup Final. I would love to pick up at least one guy who plays this style. I’ve always liked Zach Kassian.

In my opinion our mix of forwards isn’t a good one.

- SuperSchennBros


Sorry, there's a hard limit on how many former Sabres boneheads you're allowed to trade for in one summer.


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
Poor Rangers are caught in the bias for action trap too.
- Tomahawk


Remember when Holmgren signed Shelley to a 3 year contract because he scored a goal against the Flyers? Good times.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
Remember when Holmgren signed Shelley to a 3 year contract because he scored a goal against the Flyers? Good times.
- PLindbergh31


I'm pretty sure he had a 2 goal game against the flyers too. Can't remember if that was before or after though.
backfire
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 08.07.2018

Jul 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
If the Rangers or any other team changes their lineup just to play a player against Tom Wilson then the Caps have already won that situation.
- MJL

cmon that kind of thing happens all the time.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Wow, I guess the Rangers are going to be really good this year and the prohibitive favorites to win the Cup. When a player rapidly moving towards being a 30 goal point a game player doesn't fit. They must really have something special going on.
- MJL


TBH, I don't give a frank about the Rags or the Caps. But, I will say that I wouldn't shed a tear if Revo broke Wilson's orbital or jaw bones. Just MHO.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
I'm pretty sure he had a 2 goal game against the flyers too. Can't remember if that was before or after though.
- Ftown19125



It was before, and I think that was the catalyst of the signing.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jul 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
It was before, and I think that was the catalyst of the signing.

- MBFlyerfan


hahaha makes sense.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
Remember when Holmgren signed Shelley to a 3 year contract because he scored a goal against the Flyers? Good times.
- PLindbergh31


Well w/ Tinordi and Reaves on board, Wilson is guaranteed to be on his best behavior now...

/s


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
hahaha makes sense.
- Ftown19125


One year I could almost live with. But 3.....even then I was like...w...t...f lol
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
Poor Rangers are caught in the bias for action trap too.
- Tomahawk



Rangers blog is pretty funny today.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
If Reeves is that much of an issue they can always slot Morin into the lineup for a game. I thought he was supposed to be our deterrent for those guys.

Have to agree with MJL on this one and on the Buchnevich trade.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 30 @ 10:24 AM ET
If Reeves is that much of an issue they can always slot Morin into the lineup for a game. I thought he was supposed to be our deterrent for those guys.
- J35Bacher


We should just trade Morin to the Rags for a 3rd while they're still busy hoarding guys who can't play.


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 30 @ 10:31 AM ET
can confirm having reeves will not make one iota of difference to tom wilson
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jul 30 @ 10:31 AM ET
If Reeves is that much of an issue they can always slot Morin into the lineup for a game. I thought he was supposed to be our deterrent for those guys.

Have to agree with MJL on this one and on the Buchnevich trade.

- J35Bacher


I'm happy the Rags traded Buchnevich. He was a good player.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
"it's a hard thing to do, but we saw it here last year too. Our goaltending numbers weren't very good. Our team defense wasn't very good. Really, it started up the ice. It was a full team effort,"
-Check Fletcher

As I posted yesterday, the number 1 factor in a goalie's stats is the team defense in front of them. If any goalie is under siege game after game they will eventually crumble as we saw last year on the Flyers. I am very confident the overall team defense will be better because our forward group will be better and our defenseman will be much better, especially in slot coverage and winning more puck battles below the red line. As a result I expect there to be far fewer high danger shots against (rebounds and odd man rushes) and therefore our goalies will have much better numbers. Last year what dragged down the Save % for Hart, Elliott and Jones was their PK save %,which were atrocious. As we know the Flyers had once again the worst PK in the league last year, and again I expect this area to be much improved this coming season.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 30 @ 10:36 AM ET
Reeves wasn’t holding back Vegas from being a contender these passed three seasons. Neither has Wilson for the caps. In fact Wilson and Reeves faced each other three years ago in the Stanley Cup Final. I would love to pick up at least one guy who plays this style. I’ve always liked Zach Kassian.

In my opinion our mix of forwards isn’t a good one.

- SuperSchennBros

Having a guy on the fourth line that can only play 6 minutes when the games count is not helping your team
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
We should just trade Morin to the Rags for a 3rd while they're still busy hoarding guys who can't play.



- Tomahawk


Now that would be smart asset management.
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