Agreed! I like our D, now time to fix the O....
- Lawless18

Simple concept. The offense needs changes and big ones.

Simple concept. The offense needs changes and big ones.
- SuperSchennBros

Im not sure I agree. 7th in goals in 19-20...15th in 20-21.

Sure they can always use more offense, but I don't think its as big a deal as you believe it is. This teams issue is keeping goals out of the net. If they do that they will score plenty to win games.

Im not sure I agree. 7th in goals in 19-20...15th in 20-21.

Sure they can always use more offense, but I don't think its as big a deal as you believe it is. This teams issue is keeping goals out of the net. If they do that they will score plenty to win games.
- MBFlyerfan

For me it is more of the mix, JvR, Lindblom, etc. on the third line or someone who plays a heavier game? Just not the right mix at this point......

For me it is more of the mix, JvR, Lindblom, etc. on the third line or someone who plays a heavier game? Just not the right mix at this point......
- Lawless18

I can probably agree with that. However I do think this team will score fine.

Im not sure I agree. 7th in goals in 19-20...15th in 20-21.

Sure they can always use more offense, but I don't think its as big a deal as you believe it is. This teams issue is keeping goals out of the net. If they do that they will score plenty to win games.
- MBFlyerfan

The offense is not the problem, sure everyone would like a sniper or a big physical winger like josh Andersen but the forward group is far from the issue

For me it is more of the mix, JvR, Lindblom, etc. on the third line or someone who plays a heavier game? Just not the right mix at this point......
- Lawless18

Hopefully can Atkinson is a good fit, we have the perimeter guys already.

People bring up goal scoring like it’s an issue. The goal scoring at the beginning of last season was the ONLY reason we didn’t finish as a bottom 5 team in the league.

Statistics are helpful. But when the other teams are winning 3-0 in the first we are chasing games. Numbers never tell the whole story.
- Peter Richards

Translation: I will always look at every #/stat and try to see it describes EVERYTHING.

Since no #/stat can describe EVERYTHING, and was never intended to, I will find that "flaw" and then use it to support a thesis that is my favorite narrative.

Hopefully can Atkinson is a good fit, we have the perimeter guys already.
- ClaudeFather

I like the swap with Atkinson. I think he will provide goals and be good for kids like brink. Even tk. Allison may be able to provide some as well.

With the wing depth we have I would like to see g as the 3 c or have one of the better 4 th lines I. The league with him at 4c. Keep laughts on wing. With g maybe Oscar and Allison.

We are still deep at lw.

I’m not concerned about our offense.
We have 4 former 30 goal scorers (JVR, G, Atkinson, Couts)

We have several guys who have hit 20 (TK, Farabee, Hayes,)

We will have a full season of Allison, Frost, and will have more supplemental scoring from Laughton.

On defense, we have 4 guys who are capable of hitting double digit goals too. (Ellis, Provy, Yandle, Risto). Although I don’t imagine Yandle will get enough time to get 10

so all the news is on the trades and vets, hopefully that continues and our young players stay out of the story

It may be a fair point to make that the defense became bad when they lost all confidence in the guy in net and it just mushroomed from there.
- Letterkenney

Weird thing is the opposite seemed to happen.

They gave up a ton of shots and chances in Jan-Feb, but Hart was still above water.

Then the team cut shots against by a whopping 33% in March, but Hart's SV% plummets to .815.

Pretty much the same story w/ Elliott.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What excites me is the potential improvement in the PP and PK numbers. That alone should vault them into the playoffs. The big wildcard is Hart...without a big year from him nothing is possible. Cant get too worried if they get off to a slow start with all of the changes, I'm expecting that

Flyers are definitely an 82 game season team.

werenski extended 6X9.58 wow


The Athletic had a great article about Jones were paired perfectly, so much so that Jones numbers dropped drastically away from werenski. I guess we will see how they fit with new partners. Most top D need the right partner, Provy is not alone.

Krejci leaving NHL

Krejci leaving NHL
- arichardson22

good

Weird thing is the opposite seemed to happen.

They gave up a ton of shots and chances in Jan-Feb, but Hart was still above water.

Then the team cut shots against by a whopping 33% in March, but Hart's SV% plummets to .815.

Pretty much the same story w/ Elliott.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Tomahawk

No question that Hart went into a complete mental meltdown. Remember that press conference where he just looked like a defeated child in depression? For all the talk about his mental toughness in the time since we drafted him, THAT was truly both sickening and sad. I hope that the time off has given him a mental reset.

Im not sure I agree. 7th in goals in 19-20...15th in 20-21.

Sure they can always use more offense, but I don't think its as big a deal as you believe it is. This teams issue is keeping goals out of the net. If they do that they will score plenty to win games.
- MBFlyerfan

Oh, do you’re saying we dropped 8 spots in a year.

Voracek is a much better offensive player than Cam Atkinson. So we lost offense.

For me it is more of the mix, JvR, Lindblom, etc. on the third line or someone who plays a heavier game? Just not the right mix at this point......
- Lawless18

Giroux’s production continues to dip. Is JvR going to be reliable enough to build on last season. Not to mention both players are one season older. Voracek traded for a lesser offensive player.

This team can score but this team can easily get out scored when this offense chooses to not show up or not play a full 60 minutes. This is the hallmark of this team.

People bring up goal scoring like it’s an issue. The goal scoring at the beginning of last season was the ONLY reason we didn’t finish as a bottom 5 team in the league.
- ClaudeFather

They’re is a optimistic fan every summer, even though we see the same results every year. The offense always starts strong and dries out by season’s end.

Stupid. They think he is some kind of answer for Tom Wilson. Difference being is Wilson can actually play hockey quite well.
- PLindbergh31

What that saying about the pot calling the kettle black...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Vv4Hgy3kE

Oh, do you’re saying we dropped 8 spots in a year.

Voracek is a much better offensive player than Cam Atkinson. So we lost offense.
- SuperSchennBros

With Jake gone, am starting to wonder which of the remaining forwards are capable of carrying the puck up the ice and over the blue line. Frost? Is G still capable?

Otherwise, we're in for a lot of chip and chase and pray.

Oh, do you’re saying we dropped 8 spots in a year.

Voracek is a much better offensive player than Cam Atkinson. So we lost offense.
- SuperSchennBros

this cracks me up

Oh, do you’re saying we dropped 8 spots in a year.

Voracek is a much better offensive player than Cam Atkinson. So we lost offense.
- SuperSchennBros

Is he?