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obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
What would be the cost to get Zibanejad from the Rags?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
Drouin going the other way would make it absorbable. Besides, everybody’s production dropped for the past 2 seasons in Nashville. Not having to be the go to guy would also fit him better. Having 20G-50pts 2nd center while giving you time to see what you really have in KK is a safer route than the ridiculous asking price for Eichel which health status is a big ?
- Habsody

RJ isn't a 20/50 guy anymore but...in this scenario the only options are a requirement to trade for either Eichel or Johansen? There's no option to do nothing or get somebody else?

Lastly...and I find myself asking this a lot when people seem to want random player x...have you watched RJ play the last few years?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
What would be the cost to get Zibanejad from the Rags?
- obie

Why would the Rangers be doing this?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Why would the Rangers be doing this?
- Takemedrunkimhome


Because the Habs could really use him
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
Because the Habs could really use him
- obie


Good response but doesn’t answer his question
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:37 PM ET
Good response but doesn’t answer his question
- habs88888


It's all I got... maybe contract status? Doubtful but he is entering his last season under his current deal!
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
What would be the cost to get Zibanejad from the Rags?
- obie

More than the habs would want to pay. plus he is going to need a new contract after this season.

you do not want to be committing big money to FAs about to be 29 and that ugly mother(frank)er is going to be looking to cash in.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
It's all I got... maybe contract status? Doubtful but he is entering his last season under his current deal!
- obie


I never liked the guy when he was with OTT but he is a good player now, would be pricey though. I still think MB will get a vet centre from ufa
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
More than the habs would want to pay. plus he is going to need a new contract after this season.

you do not want to be committing big money to FAs about to be 29 and that ugly mother(frank)er is going to be looking to cash in.

- Gramps28

If I had Panarin padding my numbers I'd be looking to capitalize too
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:41 PM ET
More than the habs would want to pay. plus he is going to need a new contract after this season.

you do not want to be committing big money to FAs about to be 29 and that ugly mother(frank)er is going to be looking to cash in.

- Gramps28


Yea he'll cash in for sure but I think he still has 5 really strong seasons in him, so I wouldn't mind giving him one or 2 extra years where he'll probably suck or be bought out at the end
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 12:42 PM ET
RJ isn't a 20/50 guy anymore but...in this scenario the only options are a requirement to trade for either Eichel or Johansen? There's no option to do nothing or get somebody else?

Lastly...and I find myself asking this a lot when people seem to want random player x...have you watched RJ play the last few years?

- Takemedrunkimhome


There sure is other options, was exploring this one. Yeah i saw him play last year (not this one) and he didn’t look as bad as you said. Big guy, with good vision who still protect well the puck. Whatever lol
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:43 PM ET
If I had Panarin padding my numbers I'd be looking to capitalize too
- Takemedrunkimhome


Definitely doesn't hurt but Z is a good player on his own and Montreal has a lot of quality wingers for him, not Bread Man good, but certainly very capable NHL wingers with plenty of offense
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:44 PM ET
There sure is other options, was exploring this one. Yeah i saw him play last year (not this one) and he didn’t look as bad as you said. Big guy, with good vision who still protect well the puck. Whatever lol
- Habsody

He's not good and not nearly worth his contract. He is as bad as I've said...that's why Nashville was praying Seattle would take him in expansion and that's why Seattle didn't take him
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 31 @ 12:44 PM ET
quelle saveur, mon coco?
- deadpoulet

saveur is flavor! i learned that yesterday!
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
He's not good and not nearly worth his contract. He is as bad as I've said...that's why Nashville was praying Seattle would take him in expansion and that's why Seattle didn't take him
- Takemedrunkimhome


They wanted Duchene shipped out way before RJ but whatever man I don’t think we will agree on this one and i dont feel like debating on an irrelevant topic like Ryan Johansen.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:49 PM ET
Definitely doesn't hurt but Z is a good player on his own and Montreal has a lot of quality wingers for him, not Bread Man good, but certainly very capable NHL wingers with plenty of offense
- obie

Z is good, I agree...but he's going to get paid based on the numbers he puts up with Panarin most likely...not his previous years. His next deal will also start the year he turns 30 which is a dangerous deal an acquiring team would need to be prepared to give
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
Z is good, I agree...but he's going to get paid based on the numbers he puts up with Panarin most likely...not his previous years. His next deal will also start the year he turns 30 which is a dangerous deal an acquiring team would need to be prepared to give
- Takemedrunkimhome

Do you have an opinion on Dvorak who was an idea thrown around before? I've never even noticed him play outside of hearing he was supposed to be a promising prospect with the coyotes at some point.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
They wanted Duchene shipped out way before RJ but whatever man I don’t think we will agree on this one and i dont feel like debating on an irrelevant topic like Ryan Johansen.
- Habsody

I agree this should die but I'll end this here - I want a billion dollars before I want a million dollars but I still really (frank)ing want a million dollars...and nobody wants RJ and his contract
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
Do you have an opinion on Dvorak who was an idea thrown around before? I've never even noticed him play outside of hearing he was supposed to be a promising prospect with the coyotes at some point.
- apex123


I would want him but not sure what the return is going back? Picks, prospects?
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 12:57 PM ET
Do you have an opinion on Dvorak who was an idea thrown around before? I've never even noticed him play outside of hearing he was supposed to be a promising prospect with the coyotes at some point.
- apex123

I like Dvorak. Liked him in London and got to see him play a lot there and he has a pretty well balanced game. That said he's probably overpaid slightly for his production unless last season was his "break out". I'd imagine trying to trade for a 25 year old C is going to cost more than you'd want to pay for him too.

I guess my answer is if he came cheap I'd be open to it but don't see that happening
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 31 @ 1:01 PM ET
If I had Panarin padding my numbers I'd be looking to capitalize too
- Takemedrunkimhome

yeah, but if it was easy to play with panarin, everyone would be able to do it.

i just disagree with that notiion. sure he is getting a bump but so is panarin. mika is a pretty good player in his own right.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 1:04 PM ET
yeah, but if it was easy to play with panarin, everyone would be able to do it.

i just disagree with that notiion. sure he is getting a bump but so is panarin. mika is a pretty good player in his own right.

- Gramps28

I think Z is good I just think you'll end up paying a contract running into his mid to late 30's that will be based on his production with Panarin rather than, say, Gallagher and Hoffman
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 31 @ 1:15 PM ET
I would want him but not sure what the return is going back? Picks, prospects?
- habs88888

No idea what the coyotes want.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jul 31 @ 1:17 PM ET
I like Dvorak. Liked him in London and got to see him play a lot there and he has a pretty well balanced game. That said he's probably overpaid slightly for his production unless last season was his "break out". I'd imagine trying to trade for a 25 year old C is going to cost more than you'd want to pay for him too.

I guess my answer is if he came cheap I'd be open to it but don't see that happening

- Takemedrunkimhome

The Coyotes won't be doing (frank) all for a long time, I wonder if they could be persuaded to part with him.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jul 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
The Coyotes won't be doing (frank) all for a long time, I wonder if they could be persuaded to part with him.
- apex123

Buyer beware. If the desperate Yotes let a 25 year old C go it's probably only for an overpay...as it should be
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