Wouldn’t it be crazy if team acquiring talks him out of surgery? Lol. But seriously, let’s make a deal and move on.

It’s always so funny watching a dysfunctional team flounder when it’s not your team. Not that too many people would admit to being Sabres fans in the first place.

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I like how you mentioned medical arbitration.

I think the reason this hasn't gone there is because Eichel and his agent know they would lose.

They are using it as a bargaining tool, it reeks of desperation.
- Stripes77

Bingo, they know there isn't a team out there that would want the surgery Jack is requesting, it's entirely a ridiculous ask to get out of Buffalo. Minute he's traded he's off for a fusion imo.

When my wife was a candidate for this surgery (by Dr Cappucino none the less) he was very upfront about the fact that this disc's life cycle wasn't yet known. That eventually it would lead to a fusion.

For her at 28 we thought it made sense to do it since it's not like she is a professional athlete. However after fighting the insurance company for so long to get it done, it wasn't an option at that point so she had to do a fusion.
- Stripes77

wonder if and/or how an insurance company would/could be involved in a situation like this

Hockey Heaven sure sounds like Hockey Hell

Jack is under contract.
Just let him get the damn surgery by a super high end specialist
Can’t force a trade for peanuts like Hasek

All the cash saved this year should go towards hiring Mark Messier. If not for anything else, just some sort of excellence/presence.

Hockey Heaven sure sounds like Hockey Hell

Jack is under contract.
Just let him get the damn surgery by a super high end specialist
Can’t force a trade for peanuts like Hasek

All the cash saved this year should go towards hiring Mark Messier. If not for anything else, just some sort of excellence/presence.
- doctordizzle

no

Hockey Heaven sure sounds like Hockey Hell

Jack is under contract.
Just let him get the damn surgery by a super high end specialist
Can’t force a trade for peanuts like Hasek

All the cash saved this year should go towards hiring Mark Messier. If not for anything else, just some sort of excellence/presence.
- doctordizzle

The Sabres have one of if not the most respected neurologist on their staff.

The doctor who saved Kevin Everett from being paralyzed. The surgeon who is a leader amongst disc replacements and is a huge advocate for them. If he says no there is a reason.

The Sabres have one of if not the most respected neurologist on their staff.

The doctor who saved Kevin Everett from being paralyzed. The surgeon who is a leader amongst disc replacements and is a huge advocate for them. If he says no there is a reason.
- Stripes77

😂
Wow!

Kevin Everett story was great.
This is VERY different!!

I agree…. Super high end specialist!!!
We want Jack to play again! Let alone be functional.

You send him to Boston, NYC, John Hopkins etc

😂
Wow!

Kevin Everett story was great.
This is VERY different!!

I agree…. Super high end specialist!!!
We want Jack to play again! Let alone be functional.

You send him to Boston, NYC, John Hopkins etc
- doctordizzle

I think right now, the water is so tained that well over half the hockey fans in western NY could care less about eichel

The Sabres have one of if not the most respected neurologist on their staff.

The doctor who saved Kevin Everett from being paralyzed. The surgeon who is a leader amongst disc replacements and is a huge advocate for them. If he says no there is a reason.
- Stripes77

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.

My favorite part of the statement from the agent: "The process is not working".

Both side agreed upon a contract where your client was compensated for his talent and services handsomely. That contract is being faithfully executed by the Sabres and they are trying to trade your client in an effort to appease him. They believe that is in the best interests of both parties provided they get adequate compensation from the other team. Just because you didn't get what you want, doesn't mean it's not working. There is not a provision in the contract that states Jack has final say in all things.

However, there IS a provision in the contract that allows you to contest the team's choice of treatment and you should use that. If all of that has been done and it hasn't worked out in your clients favor, the process STILL isn't broken because, if you didn't like that you should have negotiated that OUT of the contract PRIOR to signing it.

The process is that Jack is under contract for 5 more years and can exclusively play hockey in the NHL for the Sabres. No one forced him to sign that contract under duress. He did it of his own volition and of sound mind.

The ONLY way this works out for Jack is if he shuts the (frank) up and let's the team work it out. They're not doing ANYTHING wrong if they choose to keep him AND exercise their rights to authorize medical treatment THAT JACK EICHEL AGREED TO.

That's how contracts work folks. Quit being a whiny female dog.

Edit: The org will probably cave if recent history tells us anything, that's why this temper tantrum is happening. But I would LOVE to see KA hold the line.

I'd also love to see the Buffalo fans boo his ass while WEARING a Sabres uniform because of his prima donna poop.
- gcomella34

That all sounds great but they're not letting Eichel near the roster. They're trading him.

It's entirely likely that Adams overplayed his hand by insisting the Ducks include Zegras, or the Kings include Byfield, etc.

I'm not saying Adams did anything wrong by trying that tactic, but he may have held the line too long in that regard.

😂
Wow!

Kevin Everett story was great.
This is VERY different!!

I agree…. Super high end specialist!!!
We want Jack to play again! Let alone be functional.

You send him to Boston, NYC, John Hopkins etc
- doctordizzle

Dr Cappucino is one of the leading neurosurgeons in the world when it comes to disc replacements. He helped develop the technology and was one of the first surgeons to use them. In fact he has performed more disc replacement surgeries than any other surgeon in the USA .

He is the high end specialist. If he says no, then I wonder why it is Jack is pushing for it so bad.

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.
- Nasty_Duck

He can file for medical arbitration.

He hasn't because he knows he will lose. When the leading disc replacement surgeon in the USA says no, I wonder why that is.

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.
- Nasty_Duck

Ever hear of a contract?

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.
- Nasty_Duck

https://buffalospinesurge....com/dr-andrew-cappuccino

I don't agree with this

one, just one team ups the offer and he is gone within the hour

they want him gone in a bad way
- homiedclown

The bold has been the case the entire time.

All of this grandstanding, tough guy talk from posters saying hold on to Eichel forever or Eichel will wear a Sabres uniform this season is absent of reality and more than a little nonsense.

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.
- Nasty_Duck

Because Jack is a hockey player, and hockey players are not necessarily known for their medical expertise.

The neurosurgeon is the expert, paid by the team for their decades of training and experience.

In signing a multimillion dollar contract to provide a service, he is bound to abide be the fine details of the contracts, which include the necessity for the team to be intimately involved in these decisions.

That’s the logic. Opinions and feels are on the side of the lawyers in this case…and apparently you too?

Dr Cappucino is one of the leading neurosurgeons in the world when it comes to disc replacements. He helped develop the technology and was one of the first surgeons to use them. In fact he has performed more disc replacement surgeries than any other surgeon in the USA .

He is the high end specialist.
- Stripes77

Check your facts

Sabres would have signed off on it if any of what you say is correct

I look at this as a business transaction, you can't give up your best asset for less than market value, however that assets agent is making it worse for you to get a full return. He signed a contract and is under it for 5 more seasons. If you want to get moved you better at least play ball in the public eye (which they are not doing)
- Stripes77

Stripes, how the hell do we know what market value is for Eichel?

We can all post constantly that Eichel is worth a Zegras, or Byfield, or Rossi, etc., but if no team will give that up, isn't that an indication that his market value isn't what many think it is?

Further, why is there an assumption that if Eichel is healthy and plays well, that it means his market value goes up?

Isn't there a damn good chance that his market value is what it is due to the very public divorce that's going on where every single person involved in the NHL knows the Sabres are going to trade him?

The better time to get the best value for Eichel was the offseason before the 20-21 season. The Sabres missed their window.

Hank Balling: Quick Thoughts on the Statement from Eichel's Camp
- Hank Balling

He ain't worth nearly what Adams is asking... There is always no shortage of GM's willing to overpay, but this is ridiculous.
If you had a proper GM, you would have a real coach and possibly players actually wanting to play there

Why should the team doctor decide what happens to Eichel?

If he wants a specific procedure to improve his health that should be his decision.

Not an Eichel fan, but can't believe any fans are siding with the team on this one. It's his health and future.
- Nasty_Duck

My body my choice? Like the vaccine

That all sounds great but they're not letting Eichel near the roster. They're trading him.

It's entirely likely that Adams overplayed his hand by insisting the Ducks include Zegras, or the Kings include Byfield, etc.

I'm not saying Adams did anything wrong by trying that tactic, but he may have held the line too long in that regard.
- kingcong39

you're probably right...time will tell

Check your facts

Sabres would have signed off on it if any of what you say is correct
- doctordizzle

Check my facts on what? The Sabres doctors said no

He went for a second and third opinion