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TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
That's simply not true, as the buffalo GM is clearly going to wait it out as long as possible. There is no "hard deadline" to move him now, so he is going to wait, but there are definitely some "soft deadlines" coming up - the start of training camp, trade deadline, next years draft - where he may decide to take the best offer on the table, or a hard deadline of July 1 2022 where Eichel's NMC kicks in and the Sabres have to pay him a $7,500,000 bonus.

So while Eichel hasn't been traded for "scraps" yet, it doesn't mean that he may not be traded for scraps eventually, it just might not be until before the July 1 2022 "hard deadline".

- rangerdanger94
No, he isn't getting traded for scraps. He can rot. If teams are giving anything of significant value, who cares if his no trade clause kicks in? By that point, Eichel will waive to go anywhere away from Buffalo.

Not sure if he gets that 7.5 million if he refuses to show up, could be wrong, but the Sabres wouldnt just pay it, they will go through due process to delay it as long as they can.

Eichel has zero leverage, and his agent is showing how desperate they are. Go to arbitration and see what happens. The Sabres are playing with 5 cards while Fisher and Eichel found just one on the Floor.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:32 PM ET
No, he isn't getting traded for scraps. He can rot. If teams are giving anything of significant value, who cares if his no trade clause kicks in? By that point, Eichel will waive to go anywhere away from Buffalo.

Not sure if he gets that 7.5 million if he refuses to show up, could be wrong, but the Sabres wouldnt just pay it, they will go through due process to delay it as long as they can.

Eichel has zero leverage, and his agent is showing how desperate they are. Go to arbitration and see what happens. The Sabres are playing with 5 cards while Fisher and Eichel found just one on the Floor.

- TaroTsujimoto5


Amateurs.
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

Aug 2 @ 1:33 PM ET


Not sure if he gets that 7.5 million if he refuses to show up, could be wrong, but the Sabres wouldnt just pay it, they will go through due process to delay it as long as they can.

Eichel has zero leverage, and his agent is showing how desperate they are. Go to arbitration and see what happens. The Sabres are playing with 5 cards while Fisher and Eichel found just one on the Floor.

- TaroTsujimoto5


totally agree w this. Eichel is doing a full court media press right now, and in the process tanking a lot of the value he has left. What team wants to take on an injured malcontent w a bad attitude? He's not doing himself any favors. THat podcast was like an Eichel produced infomercial im surprised Undead Billy Mays didnt do a cameo!
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

Aug 2 @ 1:34 PM ET
Amateurs.
- TheSabresTaco





homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 1:36 PM ET
https://twitter.com/LLysowski/status/1422244601419771905
- Stripes77

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 1:36 PM ET
Rookie GM, new coach, trying to become a tough team to play against vs the skill/speed approach they've been building over the past few years.

Those 1st's are the ones Adams should be chasing.

- washedup20


I respect your opinion. Good points.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 1:38 PM ET

- DanielEtvs

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:43 PM ET
No, he isn't getting traded for scraps. He can rot. If teams are giving anything of significant value, who cares if his no trade clause kicks in? By that point, Eichel will waive to go anywhere away from Buffalo.

Not sure if he gets that 7.5 million if he refuses to show up, could be wrong, but the Sabres wouldnt just pay it, they will go through due process to delay it as long as they can.

Eichel has zero leverage, and his agent is showing how desperate they are. Go to arbitration and see what happens. The Sabres are playing with 5 cards while Fisher and Eichel found just one on the Floor.

- TaroTsujimoto5

I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:46 PM ET
I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?

- rangerdanger94


I feel like you post here already knowing the answer
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Aug 2 @ 1:47 PM ET
I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?

- rangerdanger94



Buffalo has Eichel under contract for 5 more years. 5 MORE years .....5 more years 5 more years

Literally no rush at all to move him


Let me say it again ......... eichel is under contract for 5 more years.


That is leverage because during the next 5 years .... they can trade him

they dont need to trade him tomorrow .... or a month from now or 1 year from now.

its not the NFL ... eichel isnt holding out.
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:49 PM ET
totally agree w this. Eichel is doing a full court media press right now, and in the process tanking a lot of the value he has left. What team wants to take on an injured malcontent w a bad attitude? He's not doing himself any favors. THat podcast was like an Eichel produced infomercial im surprised Undead Billy Mays didnt do a cameo!

- DanielEtvs
All while going against the medical opinion of the doctor who helped make disc replacement surgery possible.

If I am Eichel, I am firing my agent. Clearly this pond is a little too big for Fish, he isnt up to playing with the big boys.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:49 PM ET
The Knights want Eichel but won't give up Krebs I was told.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:50 PM ET
Buffalo has Eichel under contract for 5 more years. 5 MORE years .....5 more years 5 more years

Literally no rush at all to move him


Let me say it again ......... eichel is under contract for 5 more years.


That is leverage because during the next 5 years .... they can trade him

they dont need to trade him tomorrow .... or a month from now or 1 year from now.

its not the NFL ... eichel isnt holding out.

- Sabretooth9

But he has a full NMC kicking in in less than a year. Look at every trade that has ever been done when a player has a NMC and can pick what teams he wants to go to, and you will see that the package is significantly less because the team can only negotiate with a handful of teams.

And again, do you really want to have Eichel in that lockerroom for the next 5 years? Cozens, Luukkonen, Quinn, and the potential number 1 pick next summer...do you really want all them exposed to Eichel when Eichel clearly wants nothing to do with the Sabres? It has the potential to literally ruin all your top prospects that you've worked to obtain over the last few years.
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:51 PM ET
I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?

- rangerdanger94
Eichel wont report.

And yes, if no one is giving you are good return, let it expire. Because when he doesnt report, it wont count as a year. Better to let a player rot, than get a reputation of getting taken advantage in trade.

No leverage. You dont think he is worth the risk. We get it. The Rangers dont need to trade for him, and We, here in this Buffalo forum, dont need to hear your opinion over and over again, or have Larry Brooks elementary offers re-posted here.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
Eichel wont report.

And yes, if no one is giving you are good return, let it expire. Because when he doesnt report, it wont count as a year. Better to let a player rot, than get a reputation of getting taken advantage in trade.

No leverage. You dont think he is worth the risk. We get it. The Rangers dont need to trade for him, and We, here in this Buffalo forum, dont need to hear your opinion over and over again, or have Larry Brooks elementary offers re-posted here.

- TaroTsujimoto5

He'll report, and do the absolute bare minimum to get his $50,000,000.
DanielEtvs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.10.2006

Aug 2 @ 1:52 PM ET


If I am Eichel, I am firing my agent. Clearly this pond is a little too big for Fish, he isnt up to playing with the big boys.

- TaroTsujimoto5


....paging the 2 Peter's!!!


Wolfpack5
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Burlington, NC
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
This thread is hysterical. Personally not a fan of Eichel or the Sabres, but from a pure talent standpoint and being locked down for 5 more years (looking more like 4 the longer this drags particularly without surgery) his value is probably the equivalent of 3 firsts and a 2nd. Obviously he would’ve already been traded if that was all I won’t go to deep into the reasons, Sabres fans have seen how the team he’s technically an employee of have bent over backwards to make him happy only for the current situation of the kid publicly taking a dump on the franchise to happen. As for medical arbitration it won’t happen because Eichel won’t win it, he has no legal standing due to the CBA and no NHL precedent. Honestly impressed by KA getting the return he did on Risto plus getting a reasonable return on Reinhart. If he somehow gets a market value return for Eichel during this crap show he’s probably one of the more competent GMs in the league.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?

- rangerdanger94


It’s widely accepted that Buffalo is gonna be awful the next couple of years. It’s the difference between 5 years to a franchise compared to 5 years to a player.
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
I just don't get how Eichel has zero leverage. Either he "rots" and you get literally nothing for him, or he plays and gives 0 effort, is a lockerroom cancer, and ruins the young core for the new rebuild in Buffalo.

Like...what leverage does Buffalo have? Your options are either get nothing by not trading him or have the rebuild set back another half a decade until his contract expires? I don't get how that's leverage for Buffalo?

- rangerdanger94





The leverage Buffalo has is that he is under contract for the next 5 years. IF you would like Jack Eichel to play for you during that time period, the Sabres determine what an acceptable trade looks like, not the Rangers, not the Bruins, not the fans, not Jack Eichel.

Buffalo reserves the right to cut off our nose to spite our face.




TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
But he has a full NMC kicking in in less than a year. Look at every trade that has ever been done when a player has a NMC and can pick what teams he wants to go to, and you will see that the package is significantly less because the team can only negotiate with a handful of teams.

And again, do you really want to have Eichel in that lockerroom for the next 5 years? Cozens, Luukkonen, Quinn, and the potential number 1 pick next summer...do you really want all them exposed to Eichel when Eichel clearly wants nothing to do with the Sabres? It has the potential to literally ruin all your top prospects that you've worked to obtain over the last few years.

- rangerdanger94
Lets see a player who doesnt play this year turn down a trade after waiting a year. Seriously go away if you are going to keep recycling the same and same post.

Eichel isnt getting traded for scraps. The Sabres are in no hurry, nor need they be.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
The Knights want Eichel but won't give up Krebs I was told.
- SABRES 89



That's disappointing.

Adams is going to hold out until he gets what he wants
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
This thread is hysterical. Personally not a fan of Eichel or the Sabres, but from a pure talent standpoint and being locked down for 5 more years (looking more like 4 the longer this drags particularly without surgery) his value is probably the equivalent of 3 firsts and a 2nd. Obviously he would’ve already been traded if that was all I won’t go to deep into the reasons, Sabres fans have seen how the team he’s technically an employee of have bent over backwards to make him happy only for the current situation of the kid publicly taking a dump on the franchise to happen. As for medical arbitration it won’t happen because Eichel won’t win it, he has no legal standing due to the CBA and no NHL precedent. Honestly impressed by KA getting the return he did on Risto plus getting a reasonable return on Reinhart. If he somehow gets a market value return for Eichel during this crap show he’s probably one of the more competent GMs in the league.
- Wolfpack5


This.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
The Knights want Eichel but won't give up Krebs I was told.
- SABRES 89

Same old same old
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:58 PM ET
This thread is hysterical. Personally not a fan of Eichel or the Sabres, but from a pure talent standpoint and being locked down for 5 more years (looking more like 4 the longer this drags particularly without surgery) his value is probably the equivalent of 3 firsts and a 2nd. Obviously he would’ve already been traded if that was all I won’t go to deep into the reasons, Sabres fans have seen how the team he’s technically an employee of have bent over backwards to make him happy only for the current situation of the kid publicly taking a dump on the franchise to happen. As for medical arbitration it won’t happen because Eichel won’t win it, he has no legal standing due to the CBA and no NHL precedent. Honestly impressed by KA getting the return he did on Risto plus getting a reasonable return on Reinhart. If he somehow gets a market value return for Eichel during this crap show he’s probably one of the more competent GMs in the league.
- Wolfpack5
yup. And he isnt playing for Buffalo this year, so Adams couldn't care less if he is on the LTIR this year, or traded.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:58 PM ET
That's disappointing.

Adams is going to hold out until he gets what he wants

- Stripes77

Yes he is, the Ducks checked back also but it's a no on Zegras also, Bob Murray is a cheap ass.
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