Hey guys, as you can see I am now a Mod here. Let's keep things civil. Keep the arguments and conversations civil and not personal.

Keep the name calling down and the meet me on 1st and 1st at noon thing as well.


- Stripes77

you son of a female dog.

to rags

jack echl


to sabres

lhd k'andre miller
rhd nils lundqvist
2022 1st (unprotected)
2023 1st (unprotected)

take it or leave it?

I don’t know all the specifics about medical arbitration, but from what I understand about the 2 surgeries is that the one the Sabres want will essentially guarantee that he needs a second fusion surgery within 10 years and it could cause back issues for his entire life even after retirement, while the one Eichel wants could be one and done, and if not, they can just do the fusion later?

The issue is that no NHL player has ever done the surgery Eichel wants, but it has been done in other high contact sports and the recovery has been fine.

If this is all true, it’s pretty poopty by the Sabres as they essentially want Eichel to get a stopgap surgery that allows him to play in the immediate future, to benefit themselves as they won’t care that he needs another surgery 10 years from now when he’s no longer on the team.
- rangerdanger94

That's not true, the fusion surgery does no guarantee he will need another.

to rags

jack echl


to sabres

lhd k'andre miller
rhd nils lundqvist
2022 1st (unprotected)
2023 1st (unprotected)

take it or leave it?
- Michael Pachla

All of those pieces are untouchable. I THINK they'd be willing to give up a game worn Jack Johnson jersey.

All of those pieces are untouchable. I THINK they'd be willing to give up a game worn Jack Johnson jersey.
- TheSabresTaco

Overpay imo

A slightly scratched Jack Johnson CD is more like it

That's not true, the fusion surgery does no guarantee he will need another.
- Buff36

Every angle that has come out and spoke, his doctors, agents, Sabres, all still confirm what we've known since day 1.

The surgery is unproven in the NHL and they all need to watch out for their own interests. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't gone to arbitration sooner.

to rags

jack echl


to sabres

lhd k'andre miller
rhd nils lundqvist
2022 1st (unprotected)
2023 1st (unprotected)

take it or leave it?
- Michael Pachla

No thanks. Easy pass

Overpay imo

A slightly scratched Jack Johnson CD is more like it
- Hank Balling

Overpay imo

An unwound cassette of the Brushfire Fairytales album would be fair but you'd have to send back the Florida 2022 1st.

Every angle that has come out and spoke, his doctors, agents, Sabres, all still confirm what we've known since day 1.

The surgery is unproven in the NHL and they all need to watch out for their own interests. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't gone to arbitration sooner.
- TheSabresTaco

Pretty much

Every angle that has come out and spoke, his doctors, agents, Sabres, all still confirm what we've known since day 1.

The surgery is unproven in the NHL and they all need to watch out for their own interests. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't gone to arbitration sooner.
- TheSabresTaco

because his agents thought either his value on the market is higher, OR GMKA would have blinked and taken poop return for him sooner... Then of course he would get whatever he wanted with his new team because Jack knows best...

because his agents thought either his value on the market is higher, OR GMKA would have blinked and taken poop return for him sooner... Then of course he would get whatever he wanted with his new team because Jack knows best...
- atlsabsfan

Jack's going to get the surgery he wants eventually. Just depends which team is going to be liable for it.

Hey guys, as you can see I am now a Mod here. Let's keep things civil. Keep the arguments and conversations civil and not personal.

Keep the name calling down and the meet me on 1st and 1st at noon thing as well.


- Stripes77

"Anyone else want a limp?!"

Hey guys, as you can see I am now a Mod here. Let's keep things civil. Keep the arguments and conversations civil and not personal.

Keep the name calling down and the meet me on 1st and 1st at noon thing as well.


- Stripes77

Congratulations. Probably already wore out your gavel. 😉

this proves you dont understand
- atlsabsfan

Care to elborate?

Jack's going to get the surgery he wants eventually. Just depends which team is going to be liable for it.
- TheSabresTaco

Thats a shortsighted statement. The reason he hasnt gone to arbitration is because no team doctor that has any responsibility of the outcomes of the surgery would testify in arbitration for the surgery he wants.

He will get the surgery he wants when he is no longer under contract or until a non $10MM a year player proves it is safe, by which time he wont be a Buffalo Sabre issue.

Congratulations. Probably already wore out your gavel. 😉
- Boss34

Not yet

I don't expect to either, honestly I think a presence in here will help more than we expect. At least I hope so anyway.

Not yet

I don't expect to either, honestly I think a presence in here will help more than we expect. At least I hope so anyway.
- Stripes77

Says who, IDIOT!

Thats a shortsighted statement. The reason he hasnt gone to arbitration is because no team doctor that has any responsibility of the outcomes of the surgery would testify in arbitration for the surgery he wants.

He will get the surgery he wants when he is no longer under contract or until a non $10MM a year player proves it is safe, by which time he wont be a Buffalo Sabre issue.
- atlsabsfan

Or an insurance company would take on the actual cash part of this contract should he not be able to return.

That's the other piece that is missing as well. Either an owner has no issues taking on a $50 million potential loss out of pocket, or they find an insurance company to take on the financial side of his contract.

Says who, IDIOT!


- ImThatGuy

It's MORON

Get it right!

Jeremy White is probably the most reasonable, eloquent voice on that station.

Schopp openly admits to barely paying attention to the sports he covers and has become basically a fantasy football/gambling commentator

Howard Simon is just out of touch and never funny despite trying

Bulldog seems like a genuinely good dude but really has no interesting or thought provoking takes whatsoever.

White actually provides some good debate.

Not yet

I don't expect to either, honestly I think a presence in here will help more than we expect. At least I hope so anyway.
- Stripes77

I'll try my best too respect your authority. 👍

We really need a mod, appreciate you stepping up.

High school year book :
Most likely to be a hockey blog mod 😉

I'll try my best too respect your authority. 👍

We really need a mod, appreciate you stepping up.

High school year book :
Most likely to be a hockey blog mod 😉
- Boss34

It's MORON

Get it right!
- Stripes77

So, political and vaccine talk kept out of here?

So, political and vaccine talk kept out of here?
- Powerslave

2nd and 2nd

2:00 pm

So, political and vaccine talk kept out of here?
- Powerslave