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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Players who want to be here.

Fox only wants to play in NYC

Laf - horrible season for a number 1 OA, might break thru, could be the next Yakapov. That value is the same or even less than future 1sts.


From the Sabres organization approach and timeline - unprotected 1's are more valuable in this scenario.

- washedup20


Good point with fox and his destination choice.

Laferierre had a tough rookie season, but I'd take him alone over the next 2 unprotected picks from an up and coming team.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
Sabres about to go replacements mode and make the playoffs next year
- chilliard77

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
Says the guy who likes Bonelss chicken wings with ranch......
- ImThatGuy

atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
Indeed, therefore do you think that most Sabres fans are overestimating Eichel’s value?

The return most fans appear to want is what Eichel is worth if he was 100% healthy, and didn’t demand a trade.

Because of the injury and trade demand, his value is not as high.

- rangerdanger94


Fortunately we dont know anything about the injury and what it entails. Clearly until someone takes serious interest in trading for the player, then we wont know.
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Says the guy who likes Bonelss chicken wings with ranch......
- ImThatGuy



I think he mentioned Elmos a few posts prior to that, so I think he was pushing buttons.... Pretty funny
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
Indeed, therefore do you think that most Sabres fans are overestimating Eichel’s value?

The return most fans appear to want is what Eichel is worth if he was 100% healthy, and didn’t demand a trade.

Because of the injury and trade demand, his value is not as high.

- rangerdanger94
Holy cow, more like my reaction every time I see you post how Eichel isnt worth it. DONT Trade for him then. You arent getting Eichel for scarps. If you were, he would already be traded. Get over it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
Indeed, therefore do you think that most Sabres fans are overestimating Eichel’s value?

The return most fans appear to want is what Eichel is worth if he was 100% healthy, and didn’t demand a trade.

Because of the injury and trade demand, his value is not as high.

- rangerdanger94

Mario Lemiuex Kris Letang both had next surgeries and enjoyed or have enjoyed very good careers after fusion surgeries. Just gotta wait and see how this plays out.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:07 PM ET

Canisius Hockey
@GriffsHockey
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7m
NEWS | Daniel Paille has been promoted to a full-time assistant coaching position with our program!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
you're saying this as of now incomplete roster is worse than...

this?

Moulson, Ennis, Stafford
Foligno, Hodgson, Stewart
Mitchell, Girgensons, Gionta
Deslauriers, Reinhart, McCormick

Gorges, Myers
Weber, Meszaros
Benoit, Ristolainen

Enroth

- Michael Pachla


2014

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Today?

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(and missing Eichel pieces)

There's a definable difference from 2014.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
Canisius Hockey
@GriffsHockey
·
7m
NEWS | Daniel Paille has been promoted to a full-time assistant coaching position with our program!

- Stripes77


Cool for Danny. Surprised he came back to Buffalo.
TaroTsujimoto5
Location: Finding Secrets
Joined: 03.03.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
Canisius Hockey
@GriffsHockey
·
7m
NEWS | Daniel Paille has been promoted to a full-time assistant coaching position with our program!

- Stripes77
He is 37, do I feel old.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
2014

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Today?

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(and missing Eichel pieces)

There's a definable difference from 2014.

- TheSabresTaco


IMO The Names are absolutley different, the results maybe worse.....
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
2014

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Today?

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(and missing Eichel pieces)

There's a definable difference from 2014.

- TheSabresTaco

Yeah. But the talent level is significantly better. Except in goal.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 2 @ 1:15 PM ET
Good point with fox and his destination choice.

Laferierre had a tough rookie season, but I'd take him alone over the next 2 unprotected picks from an up and coming team.

- Boss34



Rookie GM, new coach, trying to become a tough team to play against vs the skill/speed approach they've been building over the past few years.

Those 1st's are the ones Adams should be chasing.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:16 PM ET
Holy cow, more like my reaction every time I see you post how Eichel isnt worth it. DONT Trade for him then. You arent getting Eichel for scarps. If you were, he would already be traded. Get over it.
- TaroTsujimoto5

That's simply not true, as the buffalo GM is clearly going to wait it out as long as possible. There is no "hard deadline" to move him now, so he is going to wait, but there are definitely some "soft deadlines" coming up - the start of training camp, trade deadline, next years draft - where he may decide to take the best offer on the table, or a hard deadline of July 1 2022 where Eichel's NMC kicks in and the Sabres have to pay him a $7,500,000 bonus.

So while Eichel hasn't been traded for "scraps" yet, it doesn't mean that he may not be traded for scraps eventually, it just might not be until before the July 1 2022 "hard deadline".
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 1:20 PM ET
Cool for Danny. Surprised he came back to Buffalo.
- TheSabresTaco

pretty sure his wife is from the area
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
That's simply not true, as the buffalo GM is clearly going to wait it out as long as possible. There is no "hard deadline" to move him now, so he is going to wait, but there are definitely some "soft deadlines" coming up - the start of training camp, trade deadline, next years draft - where he may decide to take the best offer on the table, or a hard deadline of July 1 2022 where Eichel's NMC kicks in and the Sabres have to pay him a $7,500,000 bonus.

So while Eichel hasn't been traded for "scraps" yet, it doesn't mean that he may not be traded for scraps eventually, it just might not be until before the July 1 2022 "hard deadline".

- rangerdanger94


I can guarantee you one thing.

The scraps will come from a team that is a 3+ hour flight from Buffalo Niagara International Airport, unless those scraps come from Montreal.
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
I can guarantee you one thing.

The scraps will come from a team that is a 3+ hour flight from Buffalo Niagara International Airport, unless those scraps come from Montreal.

- atlsabsfan


I say this and then they trade him to NJ or Carolina...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
https://twitter.com/LLyso...tatus/1422244601419771905
atlsabsfan
Location: IN
Joined: 06.20.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
https://twitter.com/LLysowski/status/1422244601419771905
- Stripes77


Someone run him.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:25 PM ET
I can guarantee you one thing.

The scraps will come from a team that is a 3+ hour flight from Buffalo Niagara International Airport, unless those scraps come from Montreal.

- atlsabsfan


aw I was looking forward to a Chris Drury special of a 5th round pick and a signed Derek Boogaard puck.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
2014

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Today?

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vet vet
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(and missing Eichel pieces)

There's a definable difference from 2014.

- TheSabresTaco

is there something beyond vet that we can label this guy... like vet at being a vet or grandpa
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
https://twitter.com/LLysowski/status/1422244601419771905
- Stripes77


another nothing burger.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
is there something beyond vet that we can label this guy... like vet at being a vet or grandpa
- SabresFaninIndiana


whitebeard
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
Yeah. But the talent level is significantly better. Except in goal.
- Michael Pachla


There is more offensive skill but not many of their D can play in their own end unless Dahlin learns how in the offseason, Joker is inconsistent top four but beyond that? Maybe they will get something in an Eichel deal or another deal.
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