When you’re not here, I can feel you lurking.
- Garnie

I take half a year off and I still live in your heads rent free.

nicely done, Giggsy
- 21peter

I remember laughing for like 10 minutes when he first tweeted that.

I’m a Hyman fan and nobody thought he deserved a pay cut, not even Roger. Stop Max, it’s ok to have your own opinion but it’s tough to make stuff up when we’re all in here every day...


Every day, what a loser I am.
- Garnie

how is a 2.5mln x 4y a pay cut coming from a 2.25mln deal x 4, considering covid uncertainties? (and then again, i put in 3.5mln x 4 -- that's definitely above what most in here were estimating last year).

oh hello no!! Even before last season Hymans stats would have made him at a minimum of $4.5 mil over a 4-5 year term.

I thought the Leafs were gonna get him signed for $5mil X 4 years after the expansion draft. It would have been a mistake to go 7 years at $5.5m. 7 years is way too much for a player his age(only the elite talents are exceptions. you can sign them for big money to the age of 36)
- Njuice

Does any of it really matter, he's going to become a free agent. If he wasn't going to sign the offer he should have been traded.
This team always wastes assets and they just aren't getting better.

I take half a year off and I still live in your heads rent free.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Our heads are in your mom’s basement?

Does any of it really matter, he's going to become a free agent. If he wasn't going to sign the offer he should have been traded.
This team always wastes assets and they just aren't getting better.
- bobbyisno1

Who was saying trade Hyman?

- GreatGigInTheSky

That tweet was awesome by Phil.

I hope someone gets him out of Arizona, the man can still play!

Who was saying trade Hyman?
- Canada Cup

Italian wine or Niagara?

I take half a year off and I still live in your heads rent free.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Not mine, but a few it seems.

how is a 2.5mln x 4y a pay cut coming from a 2.25mln deal x 4, considering covid uncertainties? (and then again, i put in 3.5mln x 4 -- that's definitely above what most in here were estimating last year).
- MaximusAurelius

I thought I read lower, but regardless...i don’t think I read 2.5 either.

He deserves to get paid, play as much as our $11m C and more then our $7m winger and then get low balled by the GM 🤷🏻‍♂️

We’ll be fine, he’ll be fine.

Go Oilers Go

Our heads are in your mom’s basement?
- jribout

I wish I lived in my Moms basement, her house is huge.

Not mine, but a few it seems.
- Garnie

Facts.

Facts.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You've always been in my heart though.

August 2022:

Max says Dubas should have signed Rielly a year ago for 4 million x 5 years and how everyone said Rielly was only worth 3.5 million a year.

Does any of it really matter, he's going to become a free agent. If he wasn't going to sign the offer he should have been traded.
This team always wastes assets and they just aren't getting better.
- bobbyisno1

Matthews won the rocket trophy. Leafs had best winning percentage in team history. I don't know how they aren't getting better.

Yes they underperformed and blew it in the playoffs but it doesn't mean the team isn't better.

sparks over mcelhinney.
keeping johnsson and kerfoot at absurd salaries.
getting rid of kapanen.
rittich.
not trading away nylander.
locking up marner and matthews 12months too late.
trevor moore.
marchment for malkin 2.0 trade.
barrie..

i could go on.
- MaximusAurelius

Hyman walking into UFA
Marner's contract
Matthew's contract is too short for the $
Not signing Rielly this summer and letting him walk for free too...probably.

August 2022:

Max says Dubas should have signed Rielly a year ago for 4 million x 5 years and how everyone said Rielly was only worth 3.5 million a year.
- Leafs43

January 2021 - Leafs43:
Zach Hyman: Biggest disappointment this year. Will struggle when outside of top 6.

August 2021 - Leafs43:
We all knew Hyman was going to get at least 4.5AAV on a long term deal.

please explain...

Matthews won the rocket trophy. Leafs had best winning percentage in team history. I don't know how they aren't getting better.

Yes they underperformed and blew it in the playoffs but it doesn't mean the team isn't better.
- Aaron_85

They got to play the likes of Edmonton Calgary, Vancouver, Winnipeg and Ottawa 8 times each.
Lets see that lofty winning percentage this year.

You've always been in my heart though.

- Scabeh

It’s only ever been physical for me

January 2021 - Leafs43:
Zach Hyman: Biggest disappointment this year. Will struggle when outside of top 6.

August 2021 - Leafs43:
We all knew Hyman was going to get at least 4.5AAV on a long term deal.

please explain...
- MaximusAurelius

Hyman was good here. He’ll be good there for a while. Holland doesn’t care about long term which is why he wanted another year to lower AAV.

It would have been absurd to move him last year.

You've always been in my heart though.

- Scabeh

January 2021 - Leafs43:
Zach Hyman: Biggest disappointment this year. Will struggle when outside of top 6.

August 2021 - Leafs43:
We all knew Hyman was going to get at least 4.5AAV on a long term deal.

please explain...
- MaximusAurelius

I'll try to explain something that I find very simple to understand using Rielly as an example.

Currently - Rielly's value is 7 million+ on a long term deal. That's minimum what it would cost to resign him today.

Now, let's say that I predicted Rielly was going to have a disappointing season this year, and I posted as much in a prediction thread - that doesn't change the fact that I believe Rielly's current contract value is 7 million+.

Get it?

Hyman was good here. He’ll be good there for a while. Holland doesn’t care about long term which is why he wanted another year to lower AAV.

It would have been absurd to move him last year.
- Canada Cup

I was never in favor of trading away Hyman.
i wanted him to be resigned long term and made Assistant Captain after Tavares got the C (still think Hyman was the better choice for C).

To me, Hyman together with Rielly, Tavares and Marner were the 4 players you build around -- Matthews and Nylander for character issues not part of that core.
Muzzin's probably the 5th on the core list -- not the best D-man, but seems to be a gud pro.

I'll try to explain something that I find very simple to understand using Rielly as an example.

Currently - Rielly's value is 7 million+ on a long term deal. That's minimum what it would cost to resign him today.

Now, let's say that I predicted Rielly was going to have a disappointing season this year, and I posted as much in a prediction thread - that doesn't change the fact that I believe Rielly's current contract value is 7 million+.

Get it?
- Leafs43

you know this is nonsense. trying to talk yourself out of obvious contradicting statements.
anyways, good luck making up more stuff.

I was never in favor of trading away Hyman.
i wanted him to be resigned long term and made Assistant Captain after Tavares got the C (still think Hyman was the better choice for C).

To me, Hyman together with Rielly, Tavares and Marner were the 4 players you build around -- Matthews and Nylander for character issues not part of that core.
Muzzin's probably the 5th on the core list -- not the best D-man, but seems to be a gud pro.
- MaximusAurelius

agreed!