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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:08 PM ET
This is one of those cases where the NHL's silence on the matter is sort of deafening. Especially in today's socially hyper-charged environment (not that I'm saying there's a good time for sexual harassment, but there are worse times and now is one of them) - where you see the MLB, NBA and NFL reacting to domestic assault cases or accusations in rapid fashion and getting in front - the NHL is really far behind.

Again, something like this - as soon as the story broke, get an investigator of your own in there and figure out what happened. Be ahead of the situation and story. Control the narrative. This is damage control 101. They haven't done it with Kane either - another case where I would have expected good leadership to get in front of a situation and determine the impacts and courses of action to take.

- Monkeypunk

Um, one is a criminal offense and should be left to the proper authorities.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
Well, that was part of my point in saying Dubas will know what it takes to sign him and can make that decision with that information that we don’t have. I do wonder, however, if he’ll hang onto him regardless to try and save his job. He can’t have a dual mandate of winning and retooling, which is what trading his #1 defenseman would be IMO. I don’t think Shanahan is going to want to wait a few years while he sorts out the backend.
- RickJames77


It depends on the ask.. If Rielly signs for 6-6.5M per, then sure, keep him.. If he wants Darnell Nurse type money, trade him immediately. Shanny will understand
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
It depends on the ask.. If Rielly signs for 6-6.5M per, then sure, keep him.. If he wants Darnell Nurse type money, trade him immediately. Shanny will understand
- PatC80

That I totally understand. At the same time, whatever you get in return for him will also be linked to that number. A team acquiring him is gonna want to know what he’s seeking for his next contract.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
Darnell a nurse just got an 8yr $9M aav extension. Trade Rielly now!!!
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
Yeah agreed, but how is that different than any other player? Unless you’re pushing all of your chips to the center of the table.
- RickJames77

It's no different than any other player, I've been beating this dead horse since Bozak and Jvr. Sign them or don't let them walk for nothing.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
It depends on the ask.. If Rielly signs for 6-6.5M per, then sure, keep him.. If he wants Darnell Nurse type money, trade him immediately. Shanny will understand
- PatC80


Rielly has far to many defensive warts to be paying him the kind of dough that's being pulled from these guys.

Trade him.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
That I totally understand. At the same time, whatever you get in return for him will also be linked to that number. A team acquiring him is gonna want to know what he’s seeking for his next contract.
- RickJames77


Perhaps another team views Rielly as being worth 9 million per on a long term deal.

Take that horse to water.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
It's no different than any other player, I've been beating this dead horse since Bozak and Jvr. Sign them or don't let them walk for nothing.
- bobbyisno1

There’s is a time, though when you say (frank) it and go for it. Is this the time for the Leafs to do that? I see that you think not and I’d probably agree with that.

Unless Dubas pulls off a hockey trade with Rielly, he’s as good as gone. Deals like that are tough and I bet Dubas holds onto him either way and “goes with his core group for better or worse”.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
Rielly has far to many defensive warts to be paying him the kind of dough that's being pulled from these guys.

Trade him.

- joel878

Nope, keep him. Let him walk and dig a bigger hole for this team next year.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
Perhaps another team views Rielly as being worth 9 million per on a long term deal.

Take that horse to water.

- joel878

There very well may be, but I don’t think it’ll be a team looking for a hockey trade and I’d bet Dubas won’t want picks and prospects. Not to beat a dead horse, but just wanted to respond to everyone since I’m not a Leafs fan and brought it up.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
There’s is a time, though when you say (frank) it and go for it. Is this the time for the Leafs to do that? I see that you think not and I’d probably agree with that.

Unless Dubas pulls off a hockey trade with Rielly, he’s as good as gone. Deals like that are tough and I bet Dubas holds onto him either way and “goes with his core group for better or worse”.

- RickJames77

Anyway, Muzzin is the best defenseman on this team. He makes Holl look good.




Shots fired....
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
Anyway, Muzzin is the best defenseman on this team. He makes Holl look good.




Shots fired....

- bobbyisno1



Cool. That makes it a good pairing for the $
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
Um, one is a criminal offense and should be left to the proper authorities.
- bobbyisno1


In this case there is more than just criminal offenses. That particular aspect can be managed on its own by the proper authorities - who have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed. There is also the civil aspect, where they don't have as strict of a burden in proving their case.

Beyond that, and more importantly to the NHL itself is brand protection. Doing nothing makes them look like they condone the behaviour or at least are willing to ignore it, if not defend it. All other major brands (NFL, MLB, NBA) would have been looking into this to see where the case stood and if they needed to issue a temporary suspension to the management people involved. This is not new. This type of thing has been happening for years. The NHL is definitely behind the times here and it's not smart business when you consider the potential impact to sponsors and future revenue if it comes out that they knew more and did nothing.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
Holy frank, this is real:



Although he does not go on to explain how Sweden and Canada managed to end up in the finals...

- Atomic Wedgie


He's just taking revenge on that one great soccer player who's been open about hating him.

Typical classless Donald.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
It depends on the ask.. If Rielly signs for 6-6.5M per, then sure, keep him.. If he wants Darnell Nurse type money, trade him immediately. Shanny will understand
- PatC80


Before this season, I thought 7-7.5M would be his top dollar.

Now with the money being ended to defensemen.... It's bound to be closer to 8.5.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
That I totally understand. At the same time, whatever you get in return for him will also be linked to that number. A team acquiring him is gonna want to know what he’s seeking for his next contract.
- RickJames77



If I have learned anything this off-season, and it is likely that I haven't, but teams are willing to overpay players.. I am sure some other team will take him
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 6 @ 3:28 PM ET
He's just taking revenge on that one great soccer player who's been open about hating him.

Typical classless Donald.

- Scabeh


Sowing the seeds of hate everywhere he goes. The herpaderp crowd loves it.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
Holy frank, this is real:



Although he does not go on to explain how Sweden and Canada managed to end up in the finals...

- Atomic Wedgie

What is false in this statement? Neither Canada nor Sweden had a purple haired player.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
Before this season, I thought 7-7.5M would be his top dollar.

Now with the money being ended to defensemen.... It's bound to be closer to 8.5.

- Scabeh


Definitely, Hyman took advantage of a team willing to overpay, Rielly will as well.. There are no hometown discounts.. If Rielly asks for $8M or more (I think he will get it) you need to trade him now..

Not lose him for nothing
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
In this case there is more than just criminal offenses. That particular aspect can be managed on its own by the proper authorities - who have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed. There is also the civil aspect, where they don't have as strict of a burden in proving their case.

Beyond that, and more importantly to the NHL itself is brand protection. Doing nothing makes them look like they condone the behaviour or at least are willing to ignore it, if not defend it. All other major brands (NFL, MLB, NBA) would have been looking into this to see where the case stood and if they needed to issue a temporary suspension to the management people involved. This is not new. This type of thing has been happening for years. The NHL is definitely behind the times here and it's not smart business when you consider the potential impact to sponsors and future revenue if it comes out that they knew more and did nothing.

- Monkeypunk

If we are talking about Kane and the gambling allegations, I agree with your bolded statement 100%.

If we are talking about the current allegations against the Chicago hockey team, oh boy, I disagree.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
What is false in this statement? Neither Canada nor Sweden had a purple haired player.
- AdamFrench

I realize that I have a real sickness, but the thing I find most offensive about the entire quote is the improper (excessive) capitalisation.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 6 @ 3:35 PM ET
I realize that I have a real sickness, but the thing I find most offensive about the entire quote is the improper (excessive) capitalisation.
- Atomic Wedgie

Still sad for my girl Stina Blackstenius
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
I don’t believe the Leafs have the 7th best defense in the league through an 82 game regular season and I don’t think I’m alone there.
- RickJames77

They dont.
And youre not.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
If Nurse = $9.25mm, then Reilly is GONE.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Aug 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
new blog everyone
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