- Hank Balling

You never used to see those birthday cards with the orange cat in his whitey tighties coughing up hairballs while proclaiming ACK!!!???

Math be hard?

- rrentz

He's making nearly 300 million in the next 8 years. So no, math be not that hard bro

He's making nearly 300 million in the next 8 years. So no, math be not that hard bro
- TheSabresTaco

You guys realize that money is finite, right? You make 300 million in 8 years... You do not have 300 million dollars after 8 years.

stop trolling with that garbage. you literally offered nothing but crap.

Gregoriew is a backup goalie ..... a backup. Sure the sabres are tanking and want to suck. that doesnt mean trading for a career backup is a smart idea

Kakko has shown literally nothing.

Strome is slow and makes his money from panarin on the same line.

Sorry dude you have back takes.
- Sabretooth9

👏👏👏

Nils Lundqvist needs to be included if laffy is not
- Michael Pachla

And it would still not be enough

I think Strome is a nice piece and still young enough that he could stick around. I don't know that I'd call him a "throw-in" so much as I'd simply agree that Georgiev and Strome needs Kakko or Kravtsov added to even discuss Eichel. Even then I think you still have to include next years first round pick.

Kakko, 1st, Strome, and Georgiev would be my starting point and I wouldn't even pick up the phone otherwise if I'm Adams.
- mochoson

That's the thing though. Adams doesn't want value in the terms of veterans. He's looking at veterans as negative value, right or wrong.

You guys realize that money is finite, right? You make 300 million in 8 years... You do not have 300 million dollars after 8 years.
- Jet Jaguar BD

There's also these things called taxes.

lol


No


Literally already typed 2 posts explaining how he has to be included.


Maybe. But he's better then both of the goalies penciled into your starting roster.

Lafreniere is probably the only untouchable among all their forwards. You're trying to trade a player who's so adamant about not playing for your team he's going to just sit out and wait to be traded.

You're not going to be happy with the return you get.
- mochoson

Sabres want UPL to start and Anderson to be the mentor.

As I've said at least 10 times, Kyvyn lived in Beane's office this spring.

Think Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley for Josh Allen.

Again, he doesn't give a poop about short term 'better' options. If he doesn't see a long term use for Georgiev, he won't want him.

That's why Kakko, Zegras, Rossi, Krebs are all the focal point, and why all teams are balking until the surgery is figured out.

That's the thing though. Adams doesn't want value in the terms of veterans. He's looking at veterans as negative value, right or wrong.
- TheSabresTaco

There is no "negative value" to taking back Ryan Strome and Georgiev for a year. They are throw in's. Fine. There is no trade without them being included in the return strictly due to cap purposes.

Without anything else, Eichel is at least worth next years 1st, ONE OF Kakko/Lafreniere/Kravtsov, and ONE of Schneider/Lundkvist. You lose the trade with the Rangers if you don't get back at least this. However, I personally think Lafreniere is off limits and you're picking between Kravtsov or Kakko, in which case I'd definitely want Kakko.

Sabres lose the trade IMO if they don't get him or Schneider back.
- mochoson

i proposed lundqvist, k'andre miller and unprotected firsts in 2022 and 2023

There's also these things called taxes.
- mochoson

Take it easy Technical Tom.

You guys realize that money is finite, right? You make 300 million in 8 years... You do not have 300 million dollars after 8 years.
- Jet Jaguar BD

does it really matter?

#jackpot!!!

And it would still not be enough
- jdfitz77

yes...i know...think of either him or laffy as a centerpiece

Take it easy Technical Tom.
- TheSabresTaco

What? It's worth noting when you're making double digit millions per year and paying nearly 11% income tax. You're paying more in taxes than some people make in several years.

Sabres want UPL to start and Anderson to be the mentor.

As I've said at least 10 times, Kyvyn lived in Beane's office this spring.

Think Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley for Josh Allen.

Again, he doesn't give a poop about short term 'better' options. If he doesn't see a long term use for Georgiev, he won't want him.

That's why Kakko, Zegras, Rossi, Krebs are all the focal point, and why all teams are balking until the surgery is figured out.
- TheSabresTaco

I know UPL is definitely the long term plan. Do you think he starts the season on the Sabres roster? Genuinely curious.

Again, I think you might have to take Georgiev for cap purposes. You could always flip him to another team if he's not in the roster plans.

There's also these things called taxes.
- mochoson

Not for the rich

What? It's worth noting when you're making double digit millions per year and paying nearly 11% income tax. You're paying more in taxes than some people make in several years.
- mochoson

Sorry I said anything.

Josh is making money. I'll write a dissertation explaining how much to the exact cent per year, net and gross, for the next 8 years.

I know UPL is definitely the long term plan. Do you think he starts the season on the Sabres roster? Genuinely curious.

Again, I think you might have to take Georgiev for cap purposes. You could always flip him to another team if he's not in the roster plans.
- mochoson

I genuinely think he does. They will give him every opportunity to grow. If they see that he's not ready by training camp, they'll trade for a body.

As far as a Rangers trade, I think Drury is saying 'hey we need to shed salary to take Jack' and Kevyn is saying that's fine, but we're going to ask more of you to make that work, unless it's for players that fit a specific long term need.

Or

A three way trade to get additional 22 year old and less players and/or picks by using those Rangers veterans. The Sabres don't care about being good. This year, they only care about developing their future. And no vets are going to get in the way of that.

yes...i know...think of either him or laffy as a centerpiece
- Michael Pachla

I don’t really like the pieces NyR has to offer us in general
I’d much prefer guys from other teams

Minny or Anaheim work better to my liking

I don’t really like the pieces NyR has to offer us in general
I’d much prefer guys from other teams

Minny or Anaheim work better to my liking
- jdfitz77

i think i'd take lafeniere over any of the prospects mentioned here except for byfield...and that includes zegras, rossi and boldy

A three way trade to get additional 22 year old and less players and/or picks by using those Rangers veterans. The Sabres don't care about being good. This year, they only care about developing their future. And no vets are going to get in the way of that.
- TheSabresTaco

Very fair.

Guys like Strome and Georgiev are easily flipped for different assets, especially because you're in a position to eat some salary (which will only increase the return even more) if need be to facilitate it.

EDIT: FOR THE RECORD....I think Jack ultimately ends up in Minny.

i think i'd take lafeniere over any of the prospects mentioned here except for byfield...and that includes zegras, rossi and boldy
- Michael Pachla

Seems like he’s an untouchable for them though
And it’s not like he lit the league on fire last year

I’m assuming Kakko would be the top piece we get back from NyR
And i like those guys above you mentioned more

Very fair.

Guys like Strome and Georgiev are easily flipped for different assets, especially because you're in a position to eat some salary (which will only increase the return even more) if need be to facilitate it.

EDIT: FOR THE RECORD....I think Jack ultimately ends up in Minny.
- mochoson

If those guys are being acquired just for Cap purposes & to flip,
then there’s gotta be MUCH more value added to a NyR offer
And it’s gotta start with high end pieces imo

Seems like he’s an untouchable for them though
And it’s not like he lit the league on fire last year

I’m assuming Kakko would be the top piece we get back from NyR
And i like those guys above you mentioned more
- jdfitz77

Then you don't do the trade.

That's a rotten cherry on top.

Then you don't do the trade.

That's a rotten cherry on top.
- DirtyDan

Agreed
That’s why i said i don’t really like what NyR has to offer