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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
Ducks draft pretty decently compared to most teams, no?
- Nucker101

According to that guy no, and looking at their current roster, plus looking at their draft history. Show me where they drafted well from 2004-17

Personally, I don't think they have been that bad, just lacking as that guy said the true star
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
Who are these guys?
- Reubenkincade

Do they have a different opinion than yours?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
The WHL

Forward Kai Uchacz has been traded from the Seattle Thunderbirds to the Red Deer Rebels, and has been granted permission by the WHL to play during the 2021-22 season.



Rhys Jessop
@Thats_Offside
Kai Uchacz was banned from participating in the WHL for his entire draft season after being removed from SEA due to racist abuse of a teammate.

He has been traded, and granted permission to resume his WHL career on the condition he continues his mandated inclusion training.


- manvanfan



Marc Bergevin right now..


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
According to that guy no, and looking at their current roster, plus looking at their draft history. Show me where they drafted well from 2004-17
- manvanfan

Fair, but I feel like overall, they've drafted pretty decently over the past 10 years. They must really be kicking themselves over letting Shea Theodore go to Vegas.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
Fair, but I feel like overall, they've drafted pretty decently over the past 10 years. They must really be kicking themselves over letting Shea Theodore go to Vegas.
- Nucker101

Sorry I edited it after.

I think more mismanagement as you say the Theodore trade and just not being able to find anything special ever outside since Getzlaf and Perry that were true superstars in their day.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
Do they have a different opinion than yours?
- manvanfan


No idea, I didn't listen to them.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
HUGE TRIGGER WARNING FOR ANYONE THAT'S WEAK

https://twitter.com/Thats...tatus/1419829598078963718

2014 draft. Little tid bit about Virtanen and Ehlers.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
No idea, I didn't listen to them.
- Reubenkincade




Ok. I don't know why I needed to know that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
I do not like Hughes as a player nor do I like his interviews. I hope they trade him.
- Reubenkincade


I would listen to offers. He is too small IMO and gets outmuscled constantly.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
HUGE TRIGGER WARNING FOR ANYONE THAT'S WEAK

https://twitter.com/Thats...tatus/1419829598078963718

2014 draft. Little tid bit about Virtanen and Ehlers.

- manvanfan


Curious, but does he ever post his draft comparison misses? Selective memory perhaps?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
HUGE TRIGGER WARNING FOR ANYONE THAT'S WEAK

https://twitter.com/Thats...tatus/1419829598078963718

2014 draft. Little tid bit about Virtanen and Ehlers.

- manvanfan


I love the people calling hindsight
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Curious, but does he ever post his draft comparison misses? Selective memory perhaps?
- Nucker101

I have never seen anyone ever actually admit their misses on twitter over draft picks.

Unless Pass it to Bulis calls you out in a press conference over a tweet you made from years previous, no one cares that much.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
I have never seen anyone ever actually admit their misses on twitter over draft picks.

Unless Pass it to Bulis calls you out in a press conference over a tweet you made from years previous, no one cares that much.

- manvanfan

exactly, I want to see who he recommended when Benning drafted Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Demko, Hoglander, Rathbone etc
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
I would listen to offers. He is too small IMO and gets outmuscled constantly.
- VANTEL


Yup.
I can see the crying now, if Benning ever comes to his senses and does the right thing.
I warned everyone on here before the draft. I am sure some think I am out to lunch, but I guarantee, teams don't win with those types of players.

Case in point, Colorado with Sam Girard who gets crushed in big games.
Torey Krug, who has helped St Louis get worse since his acquisition
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:16 PM ET

Patrick Bacon
@TopDownHockey
For a lot of prospects whose subpar scoring I’ve posted, the excuse has been made that their ice time was limited playing in a men’s league.

Seriously asking: Who are some examples of forwards who scored very little in European men’s leagues in draft year and became good NHLers?


Rhys Jessop
@Thats_Offside
This is a pretty significant flaw with NHLE models that don’t account for contextual differences in leagues

We found back in the day that merely appearing in an SHL game indicated a much higher chance of success than similarly scoring players in SWE J20, especially for true U18s


The NHLe model definitely has a real wart in predicting players.

The pGPS that Cancuksarmy used to have
https://canucksarmy.com/2...files-5-elias-pettersson/

Was a much better system, I miss it greatly.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
exactly, I want to see who he recommended when Benning drafted Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Demko, Hoglander, Rathbone etc
- Nucker101

Don't cherry pick now Nucker

I don't think that he was stating that he's a better drafter than an NHL GM, just saying those were his thoughts at the time and he was right about that one.

Its not that big of a deal. A lot of guys in here thought the same thing. Then a lot of them wanted Glass so poop all evens out in the end
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
Martin says Hi!

- Shuswap Wap

it was in!
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 9 @ 1:24 PM ET
it was in!
- K-man25

Ha Ha! Let it go K-man , let it go!
Edit: https://youtu.be/qLav481BVEA
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
Yup.
I can see the crying now, if Benning ever comes to his senses and does the right thing.
I warned everyone on here before the draft. I am sure some think I am out to lunch, but I guarantee, teams don't win with those types of players.

Case in point, Colorado with Sam Girard who gets crushed in big games.
Torey Krug, who has helped St Louis get worse since his acquisition

- Reubenkincade


I don't think they think you are out to lunch but they know you are very opinionated on the subject , and you should be. It is a concern the play in his own end. I think his puck skills and skating are excellent . I think he would make a great forward and solve another problem up front . In his own end I have so many concerns and the first is strength and size.




Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
I don't think they think you are out to lunch but they know you are very opinionated on the subject , and you should be. It is a concern the play in his own end. I think his puck skills and skating are excellent . I think he would make a great forward and solve another problem up front . In his own end I have so many concerns and the first is strength and size.
- VANTEL

What about Rafalski? He played in the the dead puck era.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
·
9m
Without commenting on the complications in this particular move (like that big honkin' NMC that MZ has), there's a sense around NHL that an eventual Eichel trade will involve veteran players that BUF will turn around and trade again, not just picks/prospects.

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Interesting to see how this turns out for Buf
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
Sorry I edited it after.

I think more mismanagement as you say the Theodore trade and just not being able to find anything special ever outside since Getzlaf and Perry that were true superstars in their day.

- manvanfan



how many teams find "true superstars" multiple times in a decade, especially when they're a good team over that span?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:34 PM ET
What about Rafalski? He played in the the dead puck era.
- Shuswap Wap


Just because one player can do it does not mean everyone can. Also the players have gotten bigger and stronger since 2010 . He was also 2 or 3 inches taller than Hughes. I swear Hughes is only 5'7

Benning even said a while ago he would like big D
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
·
9m
Without commenting on the complications in this particular move (like that big honkin' NMC that MZ has), there's a sense around NHL that an eventual Eichel trade will involve veteran players that BUF will turn around and trade again, not just picks/prospects.

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Interesting to see how this turns out for Buf

- VANTEL


Who's MZ?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
Who's MZ?
- K-man25


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