I like the idea of NHL at the Olympics but they should skip next year. They can resume when it is safe.
- VANTEL

lol

Man, The mountain bike park yesterday and two rounds of golf and I even shaved the beard. GF is pissed but I think my double-chin is gone so the facial hair had to go!!

My girlfriend is from rural PA where open carry is a thing.. I've been to her family's weddings and children parties in their homes where they're open carrying. (frank)ing stupid.
- NewYorkNuck

Nothing better than a heavily armed childrens party.

Nothing better than a heavily armed childrens party.
- Marwood

It’s always the Clowns who are strapping.

It’s ok I’m not fully up on LTIR . Most of it not all of it.
- Nighthawk

I wasn’t pointing fingers at you, just that the whole “how LTIR works” thing has been discussed numerous times and some people continue to suggest that it’s some kind of bonus.

I wasn’t pointing fingers at you, just that the whole “how LTIR works” thing has been discussed numerous times and some people continue to suggest that it’s some kind of bonus.
- 1970vintage

It was for Tampa.

It was for Tampa.
- K-man25

lol

It was for Tampa.
- K-man25

If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.

If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.
- bloatedmosquito

True. Just ask Tom Brady and Belicheck.

It was for Tampa.
- K-man25

They are going to be a fun one to watch . 7 mil over with 22 signed. Will they have the balls to circumvent twice with the NHL watching?

Didn't JB get a couple assistants? I dunno. Could be only one as they look kinda the same.

- RealityChecker

This happened to my friend, except they did lay him off and kept the new employee

They are going to be a fun one to watch . 7 mil over with 22 signed. Will they have the balls to circumvent twice with the NHL watching?
- VANTEL

Yes.

Yes.
- NorthNuck

I hope so

Yes.
- NorthNuck

and if the whiners want to complain, they can show off their two rings on their middle fingers.

They are going to be a fun one to watch . 7 mil over with 22 signed. Will they have the balls to circumvent twice with the NHL watching?
- VANTEL

I mean that's precisely why they got the Seabrook contract for the next 3 years isn't it? I don't think it's about having balls anymore. NHL made the rules, teams found loopholes, and they're going to challenge them until rules are changed.

I mean that's precisely why they got the Seabrook contract for the next 3 years isn't it? I don't think it's about having balls anymore. NHL made the rules, teams found loopholes, and they're going to challenge them until rules are changed.
- Brooks_Light

Yeah but at any given time the NHL steps in and says we are going to get you . Canucks did nothing different than what 10 other teams did with sliding contracts. After a while the league stepped in and said there is going to be payback.

I mean that's precisely why they got the Seabrook contract for the next 3 years isn't it? I don't think it's about having balls anymore. NHL made the rules, teams found loopholes, and they're going to challenge them until rules are changed.
- Brooks_Light

The Seabrook contract doesn’t really help them the way the Kucherov injury did. Seabrook won’t play any games (playoffs or otherwise). What it did was help them get out of Tyler J’s contract.

Yeah but at any given time the NHL steps in and says we are going to get you . Canucks did nothing different than what 10 other teams did with sliding contracts. After a while the league stepped in and said there is going to be payback.
- VANTEL

All those teams had the same risks, they just took steps to get out of it. The Wild will have $15m in dead cap space in 2022 because they were worried it would be worse if Parise/Suter retired early.

and if the whiners want to complain, they can show off their two rings on their middle fingers.
- RealityChecker

You will enjoy this article.

https://thehockeywriters....-circumvention-solutions/

All those teams had the same risks, they just took steps to get out of it. The Wild will have $15m in dead cap space in 2022 because they were worried it would be worse if Parise/Suter retired early.
- 1970vintage

What I found funny was the NHL was pissed at the GMs for finding loopholes , changed the laws and the GMs found loopholes to get out of the discipline . Almost like a game a game of cat and mouse.

If Gillis would have listened to DCT and bought out Lu instead of Ballard we could have all been sitting here finding other ways to abuse the capspace.

You will enjoy this article.

https://thehockeywriters....-circumvention-solutions/
- Reubenkincade

the cap is just like the tax code, you follow it to the bare minimum you have to and hope to exploit as many loopholes as you can.

sure, the authorities (league in this case) can tighten them up but individuals will still find other "creative" solutions.

the concept of making this "a level playing field" for all teams is a fallacy. things will never be completely level.

What I found funny was the NHL was pissed at the GMs for finding loopholes , changed the laws and the GMs found loopholes to get out of the discipline . Almost like a game a game of cat and mouse.

If Gillis would have listened to DCT and bought out Lu instead of Ballard we could have all been sitting here finding other ways to abuse the capspace.
- VANTEL

Yup. Or if the Canucks had thrown Fla a sweetener to get Lu on LTIR the last few years of the deal, and a job at NHL head office instead of with the Cats, he could have gotten exec experience and not caused cap recapture.

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the cap is just like the tax code, you follow it to the bare minimum you have to and hope to exploit as many loopholes as you can.

sure, the authorities (league in this case) can tighten them up but individuals will still find other "creative" solutions.

the concept of making this "a level playing field" for all teams is a fallacy. things will never be completely level.
- RealityChecker

I am not disagreeing about the level playing field, or lack of one. I have never liked the cap anyways, so if a team or teams find ways around it, so be it, but don't turn around later, when a team does something to spread out cap over several years and retroactively ding them.
Teams like Tampa, Toronto, Chicago and any Lou Lamariello team have always found ways around the rules, without breaking the rules.

I am not disagreeing about the level playing field, or lack of one. I have never liked the cap anyways, so if a team or teams find ways around it, so be it, but don't turn around later, when a team does something to spread out cap over several years and retroactively ding them.
Teams like Tampa, Toronto, Chicago and any Lou Lamariello team have always found ways around the rules, without breaking the rules.
- Reubenkincade

100%

the re-capture penalty bothers me more than most things the league has done. i accept a certain level of BS within the league but the cap re-capture was a brand new level of utter fcukery!

my contempt has little to do with the canucks but rather in penalizing an action for something that you previously approved. by allowing the contracts to be filed with the league, the league explicitly (or implicitly at the very least) implies that it is "legal." you can't go back and reverse the decision to punish people.

the fact that the owners approved and allowed this to happen shows the mickey mouse level of the nhl.

100%

the re-capture penalty bothers me more than most things the league has done. i accept a certain level of BS within the league but the cap re-capture was a brand new level of utter fcukery!

it has little to do with the canucks but rather in penalizing an action for something that you previously approved. by allowing the contracts to be filed with the league, the league explicitly (or implicitly at the very least) implies that it is "legal." you can't go back and reverse the decision to punish people.

the fact that the owners approved and allowed this to happen shows the mickey mouse level of the nhl.
- RealityChecker

Well said.

Here is a different view on the Tampa situation.

https://www.si.com/hockey...ews/nhl-cap-circumvention