Good lord.
- hello it's me 2050

He is that clueless on a regular basis

4th line players are a dime a dozen. Your 4th line should not cost more than 5 million. Laughton is overpaid for what he is a quality player who can slide into top 9 if injuries occur but best on line 4 in a checking/PK role who will chip in 10 goals 20 points. Aka Raffl/Pitlick who both make less than 2 million.

With Lindblom obviously his diagnosis derailed his trajectory.

Thompson is not a NHL regular but his 800k is not the problem. 800k for a 12/13 forward is standard & your 12/13 forward is not good hence why he is the 12/13 forward.
- Fopa21

Have you ever taken a look at Laughton EV point totals over the last 3-4 years? If not, you should.

Realistically ex selke tells you to pound sand. He is gonna get paid no matter where he ends up. 7 or 8 years. 8 million plus easy. Rooting for him to have a career year.
- hello it's me 2050

Ok, and if this happens and the Flyers decide that they will be the team to give him this contract, I think that would spell the end of G in a Flyers uniform.

Not signing Thompson literally would have fixed this issue
- ClaudeFather

No, it wouldn't have.

Sam Morin as extra defenseman and forward. Problem solved.
- Ftown19125

Can't do that to the kid.

Ok, and if this happens and the Flyers decide that they will be the team to give him this contract, I think that would spell the end of G in a Flyers uniform.
- jd250

there's a pretty good chance they aren't going to be able to afford both of them after this upcoming season. unless giroux takes a pretty big discount, because i don't see couturier doing them any favors.

4th line players are a dime a dozen. Your 4th line should not cost more than 5 million. Laughton is overpaid for what he is a quality player who can slide into top 9 if injuries occur but best on line 4 in a checking/PK role who will chip in 10 goals 20 points. Aka Raffl/Pitlick who both make less than 2 million.

With Lindblom obviously his diagnosis derailed his trajectory.

Thompson is not a NHL regular but his 800k is not the problem. 800k for a 12/13 forward is standard & your 12/13 forward is not good hence why he is the 12/13 forward.
- Fopa21

Small overpayments matter on all fronts. That’s just smart cap management, things add up. Would an extra, let’s say 2 million not be beneficial to the team now, or when they were left dumpster diving for Martin Jones?

Thompson is another example of a player that’s closer to being out of the league that’s going to take ice time away from a youngster.

Can't do that to the kid.
- MJL

hahaha i was not even close to being serious.

there's a pretty good chance they aren't going to be able to afford both of them after this upcoming season. unless giroux takes a pretty big discount, because i don't see couturier doing them any favors.
- Ftown19125

And from what I’ve been hearing there is absolutely zero chance they don’t sign coots. The ball will be in Gs court to decide how low he will go to stay in Philly

Disagree. His deal was market value.
- MJL

Is Laughton much different than Raffl or Pitlick in the grand scheme of things? The answer is no & certainly not 2 million different

Realistically, I think both have to accept team friendly deals in order to stay with the Flyers. This means Giroux takes a 3 x $4M deal and Couturier takes a 7 x $7.5M deal. If they accept deals like this and the Flyers trade off JVR, they will be fine moving forward.
- jd250

Hello, time to wake up from your dreams. Giroux is not taking 4M a year.

Your 4th line should consist of a vet on 1 or 2 year deal making 1.5 give or take and young guy on ELC. They need or should be able t plug in prospects on ELC in the bottom 6. This will then allow you tp pay your top 6 scorers.

Same with the bottom pair d; of which they are doing. Good value there.

Laughton also struggled mightily the last 30 games. Didn't produce squat point wise. Guys like him should never ever get 5 year contracts.
- hello it's me 2050

To be fair I think the entire Flyers team struggled the last 30 games of the season. I mean, Fletcher described what it was like on the team last year, no energy, no smiles, just a glaze over the team. I really think we need to understand this and discount a lot of the struggles that were going on last year, especially towards the end of the season.

And from what I’ve been hearing there is absolutely zero chance they don’t sign coots. The ball will be in Gs court to decide how low he will go to stay in Philly
- black_francis

good thing he's captain comfortable and doesn't care about winning or whatever. he'll gladly take a discount to stay. or something along those lines.

Hello, time to wake up from your dreams. Giroux is not taking 4M a year.
- MJL

Hence the categorization of "team friendly". If G wants top $$, I really believe he will not be playing for the Flyers.

Small overpayments matter on all fronts. That’s just smart cap management, things add up. Would an extra, let’s say 2 million not be beneficial to the team now, or when they were left dumpster diving for Martin Jones?

Thompson is another example of a player that’s closer to being out of the league that’s going to take ice time away from a youngster.
- FlyerFan3260

So you want a frost or forester developing playing 8 minutes a game which is what a 4liner roughly averages?

Laughts and Thompson are not the main issue. They're smaller symptoms of a greater disease, consistent cap mismanagement by the Philadelphia Flyers organization.

Regarding Risto, isn't it a fair possibility that he plays well this year and is a staple on our blue line for years to come? Is it also possible that the player Buffalo picked at 13 becomes nothing more than a bottom 6 forward, like most of Hextall's picks? Is it also possible that between now and 2023 the Flyers acquire a 2nd round pick? If all these things are fair possibilities, would you still say the Flyers overpaid for Risto?
- jd250

I'm going to keep an open mind on Ristolainen but I don't think he is ever going to be the player that you're glad you gave up what you did and on top of it had to re-sign to a relatively big contract. I think it is a big mistake to give up what they did for a player that is not cost controlled moving forward. I hope I'm wrong, I really do. As far as the 13th pick. You've continually down played the value of that pick. The comment on Hextall is absurd. Most of Hextall's 1st round picks have been good ones.

Right but
Frost 863k
Cates 925k
Tanner 925k

Thompson 800k

So again the Thompson signing has nothing to do with screwing up cap space. He is actually saving you space by having him in that role & avoiding one of the kids being scratched or getting stuck playing 8 minutes a game & not developing.
- Fopa21

So scratch a kid

Also look at the Rangers deal with Shesterkin. If Hart had a better season last year the Flyers would have had to shell out at least that much for a bridge.

the deal is good the player is not.
- hello it's me 2050

Hence why he is the 12/13 forward. It’s not like the signed him for PP minutes

Is Laughton much different than Raffl or Pitlick in the grand scheme of things? The answer is no & certainly not 2 million different
- Fopa21

You are wrong about that.

Looking ahead to next year both Giroux and Couturier are UFAs. With Giroux currently at $8.275M and Couturier at $4.333M they will both have major implications on the Cap.
Where do you see these negotiations going? I would have thought Couturier would certainly command a higher salary. I am not convinced that Giroux would command a pay increase.
Do you see the Flyers trying to keep both players? Can they afford both players?
- MRK66

They could swap salaries and that would probably be doable with G's age and Coots deserving a large increase. A net zero on the cap.

So you want a frost or forester developing playing 8 minutes a game which is what a 4liner roughly averages?
- Fopa21

Foerester is going to the AHL to start. Frost might also.

You keep harping on the Thompson deal. That is not a bad deal. It's a good deal for a vet 4th line player.
- MJL

Thompson is junkyard trash, and if you want to believe different because the Flyers beats spew out fantasyland nonsense, by all means.

He got shattered playing shutdown against Barzal, and he has no business on a quality club at this point in his career.

So scratch a kid
- ClaudeFather

& he’s developing by not playing? That is the opposite of developing. The point is to get the kids meaningful minutes. So you sign a stiff like Thompson to eat popcorn cuz he’s okay with it