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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
Did somebody mention a yacht?
- jochfr

Gotta keep the Family lifestyle.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
pick 28 and a late 7th round pick is a pathetic return for a guy that was 11th in goal scoring last season, any way to slice it
- homiedclown
Florida in no way is guaranteed to be picking as late as 28
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
hit a home run with risto and whiffed on the skunk
- homiedclown

https://www.memecenter.co...n/2626199/do-you-smell-it
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
pick 28 and a late 7th round pick is a pathetic return for a guy that was 11th in goal scoring last season, any way to slice it
- homiedclown

It is.

It's a stain on what has been a decent offseason for management IMO.

Just hold onto him and sell him at the deadline. There's no way you'd have gotten less, and you probably would get more as he proves he's a top 6 center for almost a full year
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 12 @ 12:24 PM ET
There's certainly a chance. I just don't see reason for the comments about wanting to resign and just not given a long term offer. Just doesn't seem like it was really needed there, he could have just easily said he didn't want to go through a rebuild...he'd said that to us directly.
- QuinnFan

maybe he didn't want to be labled a quitter?...idk
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
I don't see a 7th rounder in the deal?


I see a top goalie prospect though

Can't ask for to much when the guys going to just go to arb and leave after the 1 year deal he gets.

- DirtyDan


Look closer, he's a long shot to make the big leagues, as most goalies are.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
pick 28 and a late 7th round pick is a pathetic return for a guy that was 11th in goal scoring last season, any way to slice it
- homiedclown

maybe Levi is a big hit and it turns out to be an ok trade.. but i agree should have been more
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
maybe he didn't want to be labled a quitter?...idk
- Michael Pachla


Definitely could explain it. Isn't like KA is going to have some press conference explaining it. Another "wish I could be a fly on the wall" situation.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
maybe Levi is a big hit and it turns out to be an ok trade.. but i agree should have been more
- SabresFaninIndiana


Adams held an auction and that was the highest bid. (shrug) He held one for Risto and the bids were higher. There were reports that people were spooked by the possibility of going to arbitration with Sam (just as teams have been scared of that with Kahun).
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
Adams held an auction and that was the highest bid. (shrug) He held one for Risto and the bids were higher. There were reports that people were spooked by the possibility of going to arbitration with Sam (just as teams have been scared of that with Kahun).
- Slump Buster

across the board D got more in trades than O this summer
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
across the board D got more in trades than O this summer
- SabresFaninIndiana

And RD seemed to be in high demand again. Funny how we went from having a lot of RD to barely enough to cover are pairs.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
Adams held an auction and that was the highest bid. (shrug) He held one for Risto and the bids were higher. There were reports that people were spooked by the possibility of going to arbitration with Sam (just as teams have been scared of that with Kahun).
- Slump Buster


Couple teams told me Reinhart had an excellent arb case. So don’t be surprised by this number

https://twitter.com/Fried.../1425579919048912896?s=19
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
Adams held an auction and that was the highest bid. (shrug) He held one for Risto and the bids were higher. There were reports that people were spooked by the possibility of going to arbitration with Sam (just as teams have been scared of that with Kahun).
- Slump Buster

Problem with this is that he wasn't able to leave. There was no deadline this offseason.

It's a very, very poor return considering Levi is a C level prospect
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
Problem with this is that he wasn't able to leave. There was no deadline this offseason.

It's a very, very poor return considering Levi is a C level prospect

- sbroads24


The problem is that if he gets hurt during the year then you get nothing. Too much to risk.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 2:23 PM ET
The problem is that if he gets hurt during the year then you get nothing. Too much to risk.
- Slump Buster

Nah, how often does that happen? Reinhart is incredibly durable and doesn't play a style that leads to frequent injuries.

Pick 25-30 and an average goalie prospect is a pathetic return for Sam Reinhart. There's just no other way to spin it
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 2:25 PM ET
Nah, how often does that happen? Reinhart is incredibly durable and doesn't play a style that leads to frequent injuries.

Pick 25-30 and an average goalie prospect is a pathetic return for Sam Reinhart. There's just no other way to spin it

- sbroads24

He gone unfortunately, time to move on!!
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
Nah, how often does that happen? Reinhart is incredibly durable and doesn't play a style that leads to frequent injuries.

Pick 25-30 and an average goalie prospect is a pathetic return for Sam Reinhart. There's just no other way to spin it

- sbroads24


You can't just say it won't happen. Just like no one can say it would.
With what Buch got for NYR, it looks better in comparison, but still not great. The org bungled Sam from the very beginning, and did so every step of the way. I'm sure he's glad to get out, and who would blame him. Time to turn the page. The returns for Risto, and Sam, in totality, was good overall. 2 first, a second, a warm body and an intriguing prospect, before both went down I think all would have been happy with this.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
hit a home run with risto and whiffed on the skunk
- homiedclown


Isn't it the general consensus around here that Adams did well to get what he did, as Sam was an RFA ? Getting a # 1 pick and Devon Levi is pretty good, all things considered. I think you're wrong - I wouldn't say he whiffed on it. We got what was pretty much expected for Sam.

I think you're somewhat blinded by the absolute steal for the Risto trade. Of course the next trade wasn't going to be THAT good...that was highway robbery.

In conclusion, you're wrong. Please respond with : "You are right...I was wrong with my assessment of the trade. I apologize".

Thank you.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
You can't just say it won't happen. Just like no one can say it would.
With what Buch got for NYR, it looks better in comparison, but still not great. The org bungled Sam from the very beginning, and did so every step of the way. I'm sure he's glad to get out, and who would blame him. Time to turn the page. The returns for Risto, and Sam, in totality, was good overall. 2 first, a second, a warm body and an intriguing prospect, before both went down I think all would have been happy with this.

- SDSabre

I didn't say it wouldn't. I meant that's a poor excuse. The odds are slim

And Reinhart should be worth a lot more than Buchnevich. Draft status, consistency, positional flexibility.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 12 @ 2:43 PM ET
I didn't say it wouldn't. I meant that's a poor excuse. The odds are slim

And Reinhart should be worth a lot more than Buchnevich. Draft status, consistency, positional flexibility.

- sbroads24


You lost me there. Where he was drafted has 0 relevance here.

Buchnevich put up some pretty gaudy numbers this year, Reinhart has the edge because he can play the middle and that’s why we got a 1st instead of a 2nd rounder.

Both players got a lot less than market value. That’s what you get when you are trying to trade forwards at the absolute worst time to trade forwards.

We can’t even get a team to give up anything worth a crap for Eichel and Tarasenko is still a Blue for all we know.

GM’s were horny for d-men this year
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
You lost me there. Where he was drafted has 0 relevance here.

Buchnevich put up some pretty gaudy numbers this year, Reinhart has the edge because he can play the middle and that’s why we got a 1st instead of a 2nd rounder.

Both players got a lot less than market value. That’s what you get when you are trying to trade forwards at the absolute worst time to trade forwards.

We can’t even get a team to give up anything worth a crap for Eichel and Tarasenko is still a Blue for all we know.

GM’s were horny for d-men this year

- Pegullaville

Pervert!!!
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
Nah, how often does that happen? Reinhart is incredibly durable and doesn't play a style that leads to frequent injuries.

Pick 25-30 and an average goalie prospect is a pathetic return for Sam Reinhart. There's just no other way to spin it

- sbroads24


I think teams might be less inclined to give up a 1 in next year's draft. I was fine with what he did.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
You lost me there. Where he was drafted has 0 relevance here.

Buchnevich put up some pretty gaudy numbers this year, Reinhart has the edge because he can play the middle and that’s why we got a 1st instead of a 2nd rounder.

Both players got a lot less than market value. That’s what you get when you are trying to trade forwards at the absolute worst time to trade forwards.

We can’t even get a team to give up anything worth a crap for Eichel and Tarasenko is still a Blue for all we know.

GM’s were horny for d-men this year

- Pegullaville

It absolutely does. We see it play a factor in a ton of trades.

If Seth Jones was a 3rd round pick do you think he would have the reputation he does and in turn get that big of a return? Absolutely not
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 2:49 PM ET
I think teams might be less inclined to give up a 1 in next year's draft. I was fine with what he did.
- Slump Buster

Playoff bound, cup contending teams? I doubt it.

I don't need the trade to define Adams as a GM, but the return is terrible.

They're going to end up with a Tage Thompson/Ryan Johnson leve draft pick plus an undersized 7th round goalie for a former 2nd overall consistently really good player. Brutal
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
I think teams might be less inclined to give up a 1 in next year's draft. I was fine with what he did.
- Slump Buster

I would think that will be the case for the next 2 drafts.
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