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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 6:54 PM ET
Also the 2.4 mil for this year's buyouts.
- Load Management


So 2.4 in buy out and 2.5 in POTENTIAL bonuses in which half can be paid over two years. So a cap hit lets say of 4 mil and Luongos recap comes off at 3 mil.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 12 @ 7:06 PM ET
So 2.4 in buy out and 2.5 in POTENTIAL bonuses in which half can be paid over two years. So a cap hit lets say of 4 mil and Luongos recap comes off at 3 mil.
- VANTEL


Yes. Something like that. The point is just because Luongo's recapture is off the books doesn't mean there's a net gain in cap space. It's actually the opposite.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Aug 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
Yes. Something like that. The point is just because Luongo's recapture is off the books doesn't mean there's a net gain in cap space. It's actually the opposite.
- Load Management

Just put it on the credit card. You can go to the payday loan shop for the money to make the minimum payment.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 7:12 PM ET
One of the things with this flat cap is the number of teams that can be potential buyers. Instead of 32 teams being able to take a run at RFA UFA and trade partners for proper trades the number drops to maybe 20 or less I didn't check every team.

Even a team like NJ taking on Hamilton takes away a lot of their cap strength. They have 6 significant RFAs to sign next year so they wont be a big time player.

Arizona is sitting in the driver seat again next year for taking on more short term bad contracts and assets.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
Just put it on the credit card. You can go to the payday loan shop for the money to make the minimum payment.
- RealityChecker


Excellent analogy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yes. Something like that. The point is just because Luongo's recapture is off the books doesn't mean there's a net gain in cap space. It's actually the opposite.
- Load Management


It pretty well cancels it off the books leaving us no further ahead. I believe the cap space listed for next year would include Ferland as part of the cap hit as it does right now.

Lets see who has good years and doesn't and who wants to still be here

It will work itself out.
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 12 @ 7:28 PM ET
It pretty well cancels it off the books leaving us no further ahead. I believe the cap space listed for next year would include Ferland as part of the cap hit as it does right now.

Lets see who has good years and doesn't and who wants to still be here

It will work itself out.

- VANTEL


Yes it will.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:32 PM ET
I disagree that the D looks set. I don't think Rathbone or OJ are locks and I don't think paying Myers 6 mil to do what Hamonic does at 3 mil. I sure as hell also don't want to pay Hughes a nickel more than 6 mil a year.

If I could get Reilly next year at 6 mil a year I would not hesitate to use an asset to move Myers to Arizona .

Truthfully it is the same thing every year Canucks have no cap space yada yada yada. Wake me up when they actually do have cap problems.

If Boeser scores 15 goals this year are you qualifying him at 7.5 mil? Are you bringing back JTM next year if you know he wont sign here again? Let the year play out .See where you stand then.

- VANTEL

D looks set contracts wise unless a big contract is moved out or Hughes traded. It would be great if he’s signed at 6m with term but I don’t see it. Maybe 3/6m.

Reilly won’t sign for 6m.

Cap space is ok it’s not a cap problem. Just no flexibility as the roster currently stands.

Boeser won’t be allowed to walk a QO & why an extension is best. Miller has 2yrs left & another story once next season finishes. Too far ahead to predict what will happen. Lots is riding on 2021/22.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:34 PM ET
If Jim is smart he will play Halak 9 games only and trade him at TDL for a first


Brilliant.

- VANTEL

All up to how well Bubbles plays & can be a work horse lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:35 PM ET
Also the 2.4 mil for this year's buyouts.
- Load Management

Yup 👍

Til the dust settles & this season starts I’m not going to far into the future on cap JIMnastics lol..
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:37 PM ET
Larry Brooks
@NYP_Brooksie
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4m
2. PA has presented IIHF with cost to of insurance but has been told international federations will not pay. So at this point, PA “strongly advises” players not to participate in Olympic qualifying events. Talks are ongoing.

- VANTEL

Perfect. Screw the IIHF if they don’t want to pick up the liability. The NHL owes them squat & nothing has changed the IIHF’s stance.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 7:37 PM ET
Yes it will.
- Load Management


Some of these potential rookie bonuses have a pretty good chance of not happening . Like I said Rathbone has to make the team first.

The only ones that would qualify for RBs are Hogs Pods and Rathbone and I doubt all three will be top five in scoring or top 5 +/- . Again any types of bonuses can be paid out over two years.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:38 PM ET
5.5 + 3 = 8.5

Where is the pay cut?

I'm saying he won't get more than 8.5 so the cap is a wash.

- Retinalz

Ok misunderstood you.

As of now there isn’t 3m to give. Other cap juggling would be needed.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:42 PM ET
5.5 + 3 = 8.5

Where is the pay cut?

I'm saying he won't get more than 8.5 so the cap is a wash.

- Retinalz

Ok misunderstood you.

As of now there isn’t 3m to give. Other cap juggling would be needed.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:49 PM ET
I think JTM is traded next off season if Podk has a good rookie campaign.
- Retinalz

If that were to happen then we have the depth to do so. It’s turning the corner on this rebuild. The return would go under the microscope no doubt.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Aug 12 @ 7:51 PM ET
If that were to happen then we have the depth to do so. It’s turning the corner on this rebuild. The return would go under the microscope no doubt.
- Nighthawk


At deadline he should get a 1st+ at least. As long as his numbers don't fall off.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 12 @ 7:54 PM ET
At deadline he should get a 1st+ at least. As long as his numbers don't fall off.
- SMP8719


A first a third and a goalie on an expiring contract would be great
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 7:55 PM ET
It pretty well cancels it off the books leaving us no further ahead. I believe the cap space listed for next year would include Ferland as part of the cap hit as it does right now.

Lets see who has good years and doesn't and who wants to still be here

It will work itself out.

- VANTEL

Not trying to argue with you. This seasons cap is what is. Next season who knows but as it stands its tight or difficult choices.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 8:00 PM ET
At deadline he should get a 1st+ at least. As long as his numbers don't fall off.
- SMP8719

A late 1st isn’t all that great so the + & more would have to be substantial.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 12 @ 8:01 PM ET
It’s 38 in the shade on my deck. Not even a cold beer is enough to keep me out here.

Stay hydrated folks, especially you elderly type, this heat can be dangerous for your health.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 8:05 PM ET
At deadline he should get a 1st+ at least. As long as his numbers don't fall off.
- SMP8719

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 8:06 PM ET
It’s 38 in the shade on my deck. Not even a cold beer is enough to keep me out here.

Stay hydrated folks, especially you elderly type, this heat can be dangerous for your health.

- 1970vintage

It’s too stifling & I don’t do well in heat this hot. Never have in heat in the 30’s+. Constant hydrating but that doesn’t help much other than keeps me from feeling lousy or getting heat stroke. Figuring time to go onto graveyard hours if I wanna accomplish anything.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 12 @ 8:09 PM ET
It’s too stifling & I don’t do well in heat this hot. Never have in heat in the 30’s+. Constant hydrating but that doesn’t help much other than keeps me from feeling lousy or getting heat stroke. Figuring time to go onto graveyard hours if I wanna accomplish anything.
- Nighthawk


I need to dig out some rotten wood from our garden today or tomorrow. Just got home from work so really don’t feel like it now, but I know it’s going to be hotter tomorrow.

I’m kind of the Jim Benning of gardening - “that’s tomorrow’s problem”…
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 12 @ 8:11 PM ET
Not trying to argue with you. This seasons cap is what is. Next season who knows but as it stands its tight or difficult choices.
- Nighthawk


We are not arguing we are discussing


We need to see final numbers of the last 3 RFAs . Could be a difference of 3 mil between estimated and actual.

I don't think Myers will be part of the team next season . I think he will be traded and it will cost asset/s.

If you are moving Miller then TDL or next offseason is the time.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 12 @ 8:13 PM ET
It’s 38 in the shade on my deck. Not even a cold beer is enough to keep me out here.

Stay hydrated folks, especially you elderly type, this heat can be dangerous for your health.

- 1970vintage


Does White Claw count as rehydration? Worked my bag off all week. Now have a 3 day weekend. Started with a Czechvar while watering the gardens. Relaxing with a White Claw now.
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