If Pettersson and Hughes are asking for 8 million (EP40) and 7.5 million (Hughes), that means there's a high likelihood they won't be at camp because there's not enough money....playing devils advocate because we all know if it can go wrong in Canuckland, it will.
- LeftCoaster

Nothing 5 or 6 players at 975K won't fix. Get Petey and Hughes paid then much room for scraps.

He creates more offense for the other team and is fun to play against.
- Reubenkincade

you are relentless.

OEL has been playing on a bad team pretty much since he came into the league. 3rd worst win percentage behind Oilers and Sabres.

4th worst plus minus since he entered the league.

I'm hoping for a Justin Faulk like resurgence.


- manvanfan

He'll bounce back and expect a big year from OJ. Could be top 4 by years end.

Ruby hot take, Myers and his 3 PP last season should take over the Canucks first power play unit this season.
- manvanfan

Only in Canuckland do we want a future Norris trophy candidate gone.

He'll bounce back and expect a big year from OJ. Could be top 4 by years end.
- LordHumungous

What exactly is a bounce back for OEL?

What exactly is a bounce back for OEL?
- manvanfan

His points pace was down a bit last year I'm expecting him to get back to the 40+ point range.

His points pace was down a bit last year I'm expecting him to get back to the 40+ point range.
- LordHumungous

Can he get back to being a plus player for the first time since he was 21 years old?

Can he get back to being a plus player for the first time since he was 2 years old?
- manvanfan

I think he was actually on a 40 point pace (over 82) last year. You have to hope that he bounces back to not getting caved in on shot attempts against, and regains the ability to defend in front of the net.

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Can he get back to being a plus player for the first time since he was 2 years old?
- manvanfan

Plus minus is a worthless stat. A bounce back for him is performing like a 2/3 and not a number 4/5. He won’t score much so he just needs to be smart in his own end. Hopefully he is healthy and his skating improves

Plus minus is a worthless stat. A bounce back for him is performing like a 2/3 and not a number 4/5. He won’t score much so he just needs to be smart in his own end. Hopefully he is healthy and his skating improves
- CanuckDon

Being smart in his own end. Would that mean like being a "plus" player?

I think he was actually on a 40 point pace (over 82) last year. You have to hope that he bounces back to not getting caved in on shot attempts against, and regains the ability to defend in front of the net.
- 1970vintage

I think my absolute highest expectation for him this season would be 35 points over 75 games and a 5v5 goals for/against at plus 2.

I think my absolute highest expectation for him this season would be 35 points over 75 games and a 5v5 goals for/against at plus 2.
- manvanfan

I think that is a reasonable expectation, AND in line with what Don is trying to say, you just said it more eloquently.

I, however, am not expecting he will perform at that level. His point totals will depend heavily on PP usage and zone starts. If he and Poolman are the “shutdown” pair I think both his counting stats and his defensive metrics will be sub par.

I thought he was poor defensively at times his first year but he's got an active stick, he's a WAY better skater than Barrie and he'll improve his spots when he rushes with better coaching, again, his poor +/- imo is more a product of team systems/coaching than it is inability on his part.

I know people want to pick him apart because they can sign him for less but I don't think it's realistic. I'm guessing his agents will point out the two young players I mentioned above and also point out how flawed the team has been the past two year defensively.

I could see the high 6's for a short term deal, say 6.75 million, but people are dreaming if his agents are going to let him sign for less than six on a short term deal. The kid is dynamic offensively and with better coaching he can be much better defenseively.
- LeftCoaster

He isn't going to grow anymore.... he will still be pushed around in the defensive end.

He isn't going to grow anymore.... he will still be pushed around in the defensive end.
- SMP8719

He certainly needs to be coached better, I don't think he's incapable of playing better defensively with better body positioning. Look, he doesn't have to be everything, does he have to improve defensively, sure, but he doesn't have to the best defensive player in the world.

Roman Josi was poor defensively this year, so was Seth Jones, they both make 9 million a year. His offensive contributions are going to dictate his pay, that's just my guess. It's gonna go right down to training camp I would guess.
- LeftCoaster

Those guys both play against the top lines in all situations.... If you put QH in that situation we would have given up even more against. His Plus minus might hit -50 lol

You lead into that sentence, using Chabot and Heiskanen, so it would only make sense that it was those 2 you were referring to.
I realize English is hard for you.
Also, you said he only had one bad defensive season, again you had blinders on and missed the fact that Tanev covered his butt many times and the kid was still a -10.
- Reubenkincade

QH needs a defensive partner to hold his head above water in the defensive end for sure.

Can he get back to being a plus player for the first time since he was 21 years old?
- manvanfan

Not concerned about +/-

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- VANTEL

What a fu*ckin joke. Another great Bettman legacy...

QH is a short little guy that defends poorly in his own zone. He is constantly out muscled and easy to get around. He is a fantastic skater with speed and skill. His ability to pass the puck is way above average. He should be a forward.

I know this will not go over well but adding him to Petey and Brocks line would be very entertaining.

What a fu*ckin joke. Another great Bettman legacy...


- LordHumungous

You had to know it was coming. It is a business trying to make money .

QH is a short little guy that defends poorly in his own zone. He is constantly out muscled and easy to get around. He is a fantastic skater with speed and skill. His ability to pass the puck is way above average. He should be a forward.

I know this will not go over well but adding him to Petey and Brocks line would be very entertaining.
- VANTEL

It would not only be entertaining...but a disaster.

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- VANTEL

I hear this one is going on the Canucks jerseys.

QH is a short little guy that defends poorly in his own zone. He is constantly out muscled and easy to get around. He is a fantastic skater with speed and skill. His ability to pass the puck is way above average. He should be a forward.

I know this will not go over well but adding him to Petey and Brocks line would be very entertaining.
- VANTEL

It doesn’t matter what position you play, you still have to play defense in the defensive zone. Being a forward wouldn’t change that.

And for those saying “he’s small therefore he gets pushed around”, OEL is tall and he gets pushed around too.

I hear this one is going on the Canucks jerseys.


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