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Those who think Elias and Quinn are worth close to 10 million in salary, please pass what you are smoking, that is some good shit. |
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Those who think Elias and Quinn are worth close to 10 million in salary, please pass what you are smoking, that is some good shit. - Reubenkincade
Is 8 close to 10? I'd go 8x8 for both without blinking. Sports salaries go up, that's how it works, man. They're projecting future value.
If you're talking a bridge deal then more like 3x6 would be fair imo. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Read the blog Mosquito - CanuckDon
I did. Drance’s tweet confused me… “No trade protection on the contract”
At first glance it could mean two things as in:
“No trade” protection on contract.
or
No “trade protection” on contract.
I’ve never liked Twitter journalists. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Done. Laying a giant turd like that with the first post is an embarrassment to us all. - Load Management
fu ck you sausage boy. |
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Load Management
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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fuck you sausage boy. - bloatedmosquito
Now we're talking.
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Is 8 close to 10? I'd go 8x8 for both without blinking. Sports salaries go up, that's how it works, man. They're projecting future value.
If you're talking a bridge deal then more like 3x6 would be fair imo. - noisewater
I guess if you think Hughes is comparable to Alex Pietrangelo and not a comparable to players like Sam Girard, Torrey Krug and Tyson Barrie, all 3 questionable defensively, then I don't really know what to say. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Thanks C
@Bloated
There is no NTC on JD - VANTEL
Yeah, I see my error now. Went to Cap Friendly and looked for myself. I’m glad. Hate those clauses and I hope they are removed during the next CBA. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I did. Drance’s tweet confused me… “No trade protection on the contract”
At first glance it could mean two things as in:
“No trade” protection on contract.
or
No “trade protection” on contract.
I’ve never liked Twitter journalists. - bloatedmosquito
If Carol quits it’s on your head |
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noisewater
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 08.07.2012
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I guess if you think Hughes is comparable to Alex Pietrangelo and not a comparable to players like Sam Girard, Torrey Krug and Tyson Barrie, all 3 questionable defensively, then I don't really know what to say. - Reubenkincade
the comparables you suggest are good for right now, but you also have to consider what stage in their careers those players are at. Quinn is already scoring points like Krug in his early 20s. So you're buying UFA years at a premium NOW for a savings LATER.
If they bridge both Quinn and Petey and they continue to ascend, then we will be priced out. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Read the blog man - CanuckDon
I did what’s your point? |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I did what’s your point? - Nighthawk
Read it again slower? |
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Load Management
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Location: Billings Spit, BC Joined: 09.22.2019
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I did what’s your point? - Nighthawk
You guys are starting to make Ball Bag look like a genius.
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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the comparables you suggest are good for right now, but you also have to consider what stage in their careers those players are at. Quinn is already scoring points like Krug in his early 20s. So you're buying UFA years at a premium NOW for a savings LATER.
If they bridge both Quinn and Petey and they continue to ascend, then we will be priced out. - noisewater
I agree with Carol (read the blog, back pat...)
Quinn Hughes' best comparables are Cale Makar and Miro Heiskanen. Heiskanen's only three months older than Hughes, but he was drafted a year earlier and, thus, has 76 more games on his resume. Despite that, it's Hughes who has more points — 97, compared to 95 for Heiskanen.
Some might argue that Heiskanen is a better all-round defender, but point production counts for a lot in contact negotiations. Heiskanen signed in July for eight years at an AAV of $8.45 million
I see Hughes going for around 8 years at 8.5m. I'm good with that.
I expected him to take a step back last year (he did).
I think he'll take a step forward this year. In time, he'll get a better partner than Hamonic and thrive.
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the comparables you suggest are good for right now, but you also have to consider what stage in their careers those players are at. Quinn is already scoring points like Krug in his early 20s. So you're buying UFA years at a premium NOW for a savings LATER.
If they bridge both Quinn and Petey and they continue to ascend, then we will be priced out. - noisewater
If Quinn continues to be brutal defensively and extremely fun to play against, then the Canucks will have overpaid, for a player that is extremely one dimensional.
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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If Quinn continues to be brutal defensively and extremely fun to play against, then the Canucks will have overpaid, for a player that is extremely one dimensional. - Reubenkincade
Kid is 21.
He'll continue to develop.
Give him a decent partner and allow him to grow.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I have no problem with NTC’s if contract costs are lower. Players liking where they live or security for family reasons is give & take. Long terms like 6-8yrs I want more flexibility being nobody knows that far into the future.
NMC’s I don’t like. |
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Thanks Carol.
Strongly disagree with you on your comparable of Heiskanen and Makar.
Sam Girard is more likely a better comparable.
Also, a much better defenseman, Adam Pelech, signed for around 6 million per.
I think it is best for the organization, if they move on from Hughes. - Reubenkincade
Sorry Reuby but Girard sucks in comparison. Dahlin is a better comparison. |
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Kid is 21.
He'll continue to develop.
Give him a decent partner and allow him to grow.
- dbot
The kid is pretty predictable and the other teams have easily started to expose his many weaknesses.
He is fun to play against. |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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The kid is pretty predictable and the other teams have easily started to expose his many weaknesses.
He is fun to play against. - Reubenkincade
The whole team was fun to play against.
Many changes have been made to address this.
A sophomore slump is not unique to Hughes.
It was predictable that he'd have a down year and he'll bounce back this year.
Book it.
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Nighthawk
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If Quinn continues to be brutal defensively and extremely fun to play against, then the Canucks will have overpaid, for a player that is extremely one dimensional. - Reubenkincade
More like Krug whether it’s in the blog or not. |
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Whiskey-Tango
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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If Quinn continues to be brutal defensively and extremely fun to play against, then the Canucks will have overpaid, for a player that is extremely one dimensional. - Reubenkincade
Not to worry, NJ will always have interest in him if the poop hits the fan.
It will be like Carolina and the Staal brothers. |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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More like Krug whether it’s in the blog or not. - Nighthawk
Except Krug is 30 and Hughes is 21.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Kid is 21.
He'll continue to develop.
Give him a decent partner and allow him to grow.
- dbot
Sure but he doesn’t get paid to develop. Bridge deal makes more sense if he wants the big pay day like others mentioned. He has shown nothing in his potential to be better defensively. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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You guys are starting to make Ball Bag look like a genius. - Load Management
I blame it on the heat 😂 |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Not to worry, NJ will always have interest in him if the poop hits the fan. - Whiskey-Tango
Not a fan of JB trading with Lou.
Lou would take JB to the cleaners.
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