I'd rather lock up petey long term and go bridge with Hughes. The benchmark for defenseman contracts right now is ridiculous. I'd rather go 8 on petey and 3 on Hughes.
- Codes1087

for half a year?

for half a year?
- LeftCoaster

I think he meant years not millions...

I think he meant years not millions...
- noisewater

You’re right, my bad

I was sarcastically responding from another morons comment... Like trying to compare a contract signed 4 years ago.... Just a complete lack of understanding of how this poop works.
- noisewater

Yeah, just stupid picking a contract signed 4 years ago when discussing future growth. Easier to blindly speculate how much one signed now might be worth in 4 years. Just sheer brilliance on your part really.

Yeah, just stupid picking a contract signed 4 years ago when discussing future growth. Easier to blindly speculate how much one signed now might be worth in 4 years. Just sheer brilliance on your part really.
- Load Management

You can't compare Herman's contract signed 4 years ago which he has OBVIOUSLY outperformed when trying to value Quinn Hughes deal. Look at comparables of other young, up and coming d-men that have been signed in the last year.

All of us are just flapping our (frank)ing gums at the end of the day anyways...

8 x 8.5m
- dbot

So u wanna overpay an offense specialist with horrible d that needs a partner to prop him up. Makar and heiskanin don't need that. And then lose Petey because we won't have cap for him after that over pay. Solid move

Rathbone making Hughes expendable.... HAHAHA.

Thanks, needed a good chuckle.
- noisewater

Funny if you took it as Bones is Hughes equivalent. I’m pretty confident in Bones being more than capable on offence & probably end up better defensively. Adding to that Hughes &/or Bones are best suited in a 2nd pairing. 1st pairing being better at shutdown. That is a work in progress. 2nd pair D are not worth 7m+ so Bones will more likely be cheaper & Hughes over priced.

So u wanna overpay an offense specialist with horrible d that needs a partner to prop him up. Makar and heiskanin don't need that. And then lose Petey because we won't have cap for him after that over pay. Solid move
- SMP8719

It's got nothing to do with what I want.
It's what I expect he'll sign for, given the current market.

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- LordHumungous

Did a tour there in June. Have some good reds.

I'd rather lock up petey long term and go bridge with Hughes. The benchmark for defenseman contracts right now is ridiculous. I'd rather go 8 on petey and 3 on Hughes.
- Codes1087

👍👍

The D benchmarks are more to do with more top young D are coming off ELC’s. Hughes isn’t top 10 & shouldn’t get paid as one.

I would not lock in Hughes long term if I had all the cap space in the world. I need to see more first.
- VANTEL

Bingo

Funny if you took it as Bones is Hughes equivalent. I’m pretty confident in Bones being more than capable on offence & probably end up better defensively. Adding to that Hughes &/or Bones are best suited in a 2nd pairing. 1st pairing being better at shutdown. That is a work in progress. 2nd pair D are not worth 7m+ so Bones will more likely be cheaper & Hughes over priced.
- Nighthawk

You get that from 8 GP?

Two
- VANTEL

And only enough blood to run one of them - Robin Williams

Yeah, just stupid picking a contract signed 4 years ago when discussing future growth. Easier to blindly speculate how much one signed now might be worth in 4 years. Just sheer brilliance on your part really.
- Load Management

Agree & their thinking is what escalates contracts into stupidom.

It's got nothing to do with what I want.
It's what I expect he'll sign for, given the current market.





- dbot

So u expect to lose petey?

And only enough blood to run one of them - Robin Williams
- Nighthawk

Legend

So u wanna overpay an offense specialist with horrible d that needs a partner to prop him up. Makar and heiskanin don't need that. And then lose Petey because we won't have cap for him after that over pay. Solid move
- SMP8719

Bingo 2.0

You get that from 8 GP?

- dbot

No I get it from tracking him since high school & growth curve he has been on. He fit in quite nicely on his audition & I’m high on him. Good skill set & brains.

I guess this discussion on how much and how long is going to go on until the deals are signed.

Hmmm, I think Hughes offers much more offensively than Rathbone. I've seen nothing to suggest either is sound defensively. Unfortunately, on D contracts you pay for offence. I'd like it to be shorter deal, not a matching deal. I don't have confidence it will be either.

I guess this discussion on how much and how long is going to go on until the deals are signed.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'll also add we'll also question how good Hughes is defensively until the deal is signed.

I guess this discussion on how much and how long is going to go on until the deals are signed.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Dog days indeed. I’ll cease on the cost & just wait it out.

Hmmm, I think Hughes offers much more offensively than Rathbone. I've seen nothing to suggest either is sound defensively. Unfortunately, on D contracts you pay for offence. I'd like it to be shorter deal, not a matching deal. I don't have confidence it will be either.
- golfingsince

Agree pay for offence but only to a point when D isn’t good enough. Barrie found that out & for a good reason. Offensive only D are not #1 D & shouldn’t get paid like 1. Some ppl would say they are very good #3.

I'll also add we'll also question how good Hughes is defensively until the deal is signed.
- golfingsince

👍

Don't care what Benning pays them as long as they are there for start of camp.

Team can't afford the distraction or delay.