Won some AFC Championships. Eichel can't even win best in the division. Know what you're getting at but Jack will never mature here. Or ever IMO.
- Pingleheimer

Kelly wasn’t mature either, he was also a cocky d!ck
That’s all I’m saying

And i haven’t been arguing that Jack will be mature either
Just saying A LOT of athletes act like that,
especially when young

Bruh it is. His dad was something like a factory floor boss and his mom was a nurse. That's not exactly peasant money but it's not rich either. Eichel chose his own god forsaken path. Now he can ride it out with our rebuilding team until he comes back and swallows his pride and gets himself traded for what he's worth?

I'm talking in circles now but I'd rather just him gtfo of this org and town and ply his trade elsewhere. And I hope they send us a first and name him captain same year but maybe I'm just getting greedy
- Pingleheimer

Those are very comfortably middle-class jobs at the very least dude. I actually found them on Facebook and did quite a bit of stalking; Believe me, they are far from working-class. But conveniently, no actual information to be found except some kind of narrative being pushed on Buffalo for over 6 months, because the NHL fixed that lottery drawing to send McDavid to Edmonton and Eichel to Buffalo. He was even dating the daughter of one of the largest car dealerships in the WNY area. The story wrote itself and was set in stone.

From what I pieced together, his dad is at the very least, a salaried factory manager and his mother is at the very least an RN. They would 100% have upper middle-class income of close to 150k.

Eichel also went to a PRIVATE COLLEGE with a 19% acceptance rate and an average annual cost of $75,000.00 USD before aid - Let's assume Eichel had a scholarship. It's still a 30k annual cost. And his parents absolutely make over 100k per year combined, so he was paying close to 50k per year to go to a Private Institution run by WASPS - you know, the ruling elite of America?

(frank)ing believe me, that kid ain't blue-collar nor is he working-class in origin. But the media love shoving that crap down the throats of Buffalonians because they eat that poop right up for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Because the lack of class-consciousness.

The dude is a rich wanker from Boston, an entitled, spoiled, pampered, upper middle-class douche-bag.

Believe that.

His dad's salary:

https://www.google.com/se...c0KHRcGAtMQ4dUDCA4&uact=5

His mom's salary:

https://www.google.com/se...p0JHac2Dq4Q4dUDCA4&uact=5

I even shot low, they are pulling in a family income of 250k per year at least, which would place them FIRMLY in the UPPER MIDDLE-CLASS.

Stop it with the blue-collar narrative. No blue-collar family is pulling in 250k per. Not a single one.

This new Devo is an absolute banger:

https://www.youtube.com/w...nOw&ab_channel=DEVOvision

Eichel also went to a PRIVATE COLLEGE with a 19% acceptance rate and an average annual cost of $75,000.00 USD before aid - Let's assume Eichel had a scholarship. It's still a 30k annual cost. And his parents absolutely make over 100k per year combined, so he was paying close to 50k per year to go to a Private Institution run by WASPS - you know, the ruling elite of America?
- Jet Jaguar BD

You think he actually had to pay to go to college? I’m genuinely curious, as I would think that those athletic scholarships would cover it, and he could live at home with mommy if he’d wanted to. I have no idea, just know like football players get their ride paid for with stipends for living and such, pre NIL rules.

McDavid's a good Canadian boy, remember the thousand yard stare at the lottery?

I guarantee if Jack was Canadian it would be a lot easier for him.
- Wetbandit1

This makes ZERO sense. ☝️

You think he actually had to pay to go to college? I’m genuinely curious, as I would think that those athletic scholarships would cover it, and he could live at home with mommy if he’d wanted to. I have no idea, just know like football players get their ride paid for with stipends for living and such, pre NIL rules.
- SDSabre

I don't believe so. Average tuition after aid says 31k -

Aid includes grants and scholarships from the institution, state, and federal government

https://www.google.com/se...&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Most Universities require Freshman to dorm, as well. I mean, he only went there 1 year when all was said and done, but I don't think NCAA hockey is the cash-cow that football is... And football players are predominantly lower-middle class and working-class - A stark contrast to hockey, which has always and will always be a middle-class and upper-middle class sport. Therefor, football players are eligible for more financial aid and scholarship money. Seems like they are not 100% paid for but close.

BU is also in the Division I FCS for football - The secondary division after the "top" schools. I don't think they get the same treatment as the Division I FBS, but I really am not sure.

As far as the hockey program, yeah it's as obscure as it gets.

The whole thing is complicated and sketchy though. The more money you have/make, the more free things you get.

This makes ZERO sense. ☝️
- Boss34

Sure, if you've got poop for brains

ROR can, allegedly, drunk drive his truck into a Tim Hortons and no one bats an eye, but Eichel's "mean" to people, so (frank) that guy?

Sure, if you've got poop for brains

ROR can, allegedly, drunk drive his truck into a Tim Hortons and no one bats an eye, but Eichel's "mean" to people, so (frank) that guy?
- Wetbandit1

You're wacked dude, having a conversation in your own head and acting like everyone feels that way.

What the (frank)? Speaking of poop heads.

https://twitter.com/USBPC...tatus/1427285301324550148

Cops got Reinhart's stash

You're wacked dude, having a conversation in your own head and acting like everyone feels that way.

What the (frank)? Speaking of poop heads.
- Boss34

(frank) off, Boss, you're getting to Fitz levels

Those are very comfortably middle-class jobs at the very least dude. I actually found them on Facebook and did quite a bit of stalking; Believe me, they are far from working-class. But conveniently, no actual information to be found except some kind of narrative being pushed on Buffalo for over 6 months, because the NHL fixed that lottery drawing to send McDavid to Edmonton and Eichel to Buffalo. He was even dating the daughter of one of the largest car dealerships in the WNY area. The story wrote itself and was set in stone.

From what I pieced together, his dad is at the very least, a salaried factory manager and his mother is at the very least an RN. They would 100% have upper middle-class income of close to 150k.

Eichel also went to a PRIVATE COLLEGE with a 19% acceptance rate and an average annual cost of $75,000.00 USD before aid - Let's assume Eichel had a scholarship. It's still a 30k annual cost. And his parents absolutely make over 100k per year combined, so he was paying close to 50k per year to go to a Private Institution run by WASPS - you know, the ruling elite of America?

(frank)ing believe me, that kid ain't blue-collar nor is he working-class in origin. But the media love shoving that crap down the throats of Buffalonians because they eat that poop right up for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Because the lack of class-consciousness.

The dude is a rich wanker from Boston, an entitled, spoiled, pampered, upper middle-class douche-bag.

Believe that.
- Jet Jaguar BD

OK - you went deep. I don't claim to know anything about the research that you have done and that is worth something. Only spoke on what I thought I knew. All that aside, I was just trying to say that based on what I had heard from Sabres.com videos in the past that Jack wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth... but does it even matter? Nope. Josh Allen was born to like the third biggest farmers in his area if I'm not mistaken and they are def not poor either. But what a difference between those two young men. If you could even call the one from Boston a young man at this point.

My point was never to defend Jack Eichel. I (frank)ing hate that guy lol.

All I meant was that he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth but does it even matter?
- Pingleheimer

He absolutely was lol

(frank) off, Boss, you're getting to Fitz levels
- Wetbandit1

Look in the mirror female dog boy

He absolutely was lol
- Jet Jaguar BD

I have edited my comment, I was not aware of the things you mentioned. I have not done the research to dispute any of it at this point, still stand by the fact that I think Josh is 10x the man Jack could ever hope to be

Josh Allen was born to like the third biggest farmers in his area if I'm not mistaken and they are def not poor either
- Pingleheimer

The difference here is that although most farmers of that pedigree are going to be "millionaires" on paper, they work their (frank)ing asses off and get shafted by the corporations that the government lets get away with systematically destroying independent farmers and farms.

Josh Allen can actually be considered to be "blue-collar" in this case, farmers being one of the only exceptions to the rule. They work their land, they get their hands and feet dirty doing it, and most of them are cash-broke because of companies like Monsanto bending them over.

The difference here is that although most farmers of that pedigree are going to be "millionaires" on paper, they work their (frank)ing asses off and get shafted by the corporations that the government lets get away with systematically destroying independent farmers and farms.

Josh Allen can actually be considered to be "blue-collar" in this case, farmers being one of the only exceptions to the rule. They work their land, they get their hands and feet dirty doing it, and most of them are cash-broke because of companies like Monsanto bending them over.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Dude I'm not arguing with you about the ins and out of blue vs white collar here, I think we agree in principle. Please re-read my edited comment.

I have edited my comment, I was not aware of the things you mentioned. I have not done the research to dispute any of it at this point, still stand by the fact that I think Josh is 10x the man Jack could ever hope to be
- Pingleheimer

I get you, but again, sabres.com videos that were funded and produced by billionaires who knew how to exploit the local fanbase - The mere mention of "blue-collar" or "working-class" makes people in Buffalo ejaculate. On top of that, make him seem like he scraped and clawed his way to the NHL, yeah right. There's a reason he left after his freshman year - He could afford to.

The Pegulas sold him as their prized horse and he failed to win even one of the Triple-Crown races. They sure knew how to promote and sell him to the fanbase, though.

I get you, but again, sabres.com videos that were funded and produced by billionaires who knew how to exploit the local fanbase - The mere mention of "blue-collar" or "working-class" makes people in Buffalo ejaculate. On top of that, make him seem like he scraped and clawed his way to the NHL, yeah right. There's a reason he left after his freshman year - He could afford to.

The Pegulas sold him as their prized horse and he failed to win even one of the Triple-Crown races. They sure knew how to promote and sell him to the fanbase, though.
- Jet Jaguar BD

You are correct. We all busted a nut over Eichel for nothing. Pretty sure Eichel is German for acorn or nut or something like that too, so it's fitting

Where's the goddamn ignore button already?

Dude I'm not arguing with you about the ins and out of blue vs white collar here, I think we agree in principle. Please re-read my edited comment.
- Pingleheimer

It's all good dude

Not even trying to go off on you, just, it gets my blood boiling when they shove this blue-collar crap down our throats at every intersection - Every single Bills game it's all the announcers friggin' talk about, it's just so grimey and forced.

It's all good dude

Not even trying to go off on you, just, it gets my blood boiling when they shove this blue-collar crap down our throats at every intersection - Every single Bills game it's all the announcers friggin' talk about, it's just so grimey and forced.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Allen all the (frank)ing way

Allen all the (frank)ing way
- Pingleheimer

Yes.

Kelly wasn’t mature either, he was also a cocky d!ck
That’s all I’m saying

And i haven’t been arguing that Jack will be mature either
Just saying A LOT of athletes act like that,
especially when young
- jdfitz77

Fair Fitz, very fair. I get where you're coming from. Just so (frank)ing sick of the Eichel drama now that I need a Xanax and a glass or bourbon to move along!

Where's the goddamn ignore button already?
- Wetbandit1

right behind the gateway error message