You're not alone on that island, but given that you're stranded with me you probably want to be.
- gcomella34

I'm floating on an chaise lounge just off shore with a cooler beside and a bottle of brown liquor in hand

I don’t know with 100% certainty, that’s what happens when we are getting all caught up about hypotheticals.

We’re arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

What I do know though is that the player does have a risk of injury by playing in 50-60 games prior to the trade deadline and would also have to be in the locker room around the core and the team deemed the return from Florida good enough to move the player and avoid the risks.

That’s all I’ve got
- Pegullaville

My argument today is more about the hypocrisy of defending unloading him right away despite them getting a 2022 pick (it wasn’t like it was 2021 during the draft) while simultaneously saying that they can keep a different player who also doesn’t want anything to do with the franchise because getting a good return is really important

Getting a good return for Reinhart should have also been really important.

Whatever. I just didn’t want to go over vaccines of Afghanistan today 🤷‍♀️
- sbroads24

Maybe reinhart has attitude , slowness and contract were limiting the return.

Imagine if we didnt trade him within the division.
The return would have been less.
Your overvaluing him.


Maybe just maybe he's a decent hockey player that shouldnt be paid as much as his next contract was valued at.

Similar to risto...

I don’t know with 100% certainty, that’s what happens when we are getting all caught up about hypotheticals.

We’re arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

What I do know though is that the player does have a risk of injury by playing in 50-60 games prior to the trade deadline and would also have to be in the locker room around the core and the team deemed the return from Florida good enough to move the player and avoid the risks.

That’s all I’ve got
- Pegullaville

Yes, that comes with risk. You weigh that risk with the potential reward.

If a good deal wasn't there, then you hope a team get's stupid at the deadline and gives you a 1+2+ better prospect. Or maybe a young player that can't help a team right away ala Filip Forsberg.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Reinhart is a lot worse than Anthony Mantha, and a team ponied up big time for him at the deadline

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- Michael Pachla

MP34

Maybe reinhart has attitude , slowness and contract were limiting the return.

Imagine if we didnt trade him within the division.
The return would have been less.
Your overvaluing him.


Maybe just maybe he's a decent hockey player that shouldnt be paid as much as his next contract was valued at.

Similar to risto...
- Boss34

Yes, that comes with risk. You weigh that risk with the potential reward.

If a good deal wasn't there, then you hope a team get's stupid at the deadline and gives you a 1+2+ better prospect. Or maybe a young player that can't help a team right away ala Filip Forsberg.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Reinhart is a lot worse than Anthony Mantha, and a team ponied up big time for him at the deadline
- sbroads24

I guess some hockey guys like 6'5 power wingers who score 25 goals without eichel over


Smaller slower guys..

Yes, that comes with risk. You weigh that risk with the potential reward.

If a good deal wasn't there, then you hope a team get's stupid at the deadline and gives you a 1+2+ better prospect. Or maybe a young player that can't help a team right away ala Filip Forsberg.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Reinhart is a lot worse than Anthony Mantha, and a team ponied up big time for him at the deadline
- sbroads24

Anthony Mantha was also acquired for a playoff run, and is under contract for this season and the new two seasons.

Sam Reinhart had all negotiating leverage and could have taken an arbitration award that took him straight to UFA.

3 and 1/4 seasons of Mantha is worth more than potentially one season of Reinhart.

I guess some hockey guys like 6'5 power wingers who score 25 goals without eichel over


Smaller slower guys..
- Boss34

Yeah, that 6'5 power forward has played one *almost* full season in 7 years and has missed more than 15 games in 3 seasons.

Seems like Reinhart is more durable, more productive, and tougher.

"Hockey guys" aren't really smart though

Anthony Mantha was also acquired for a playoff run, and is under contract for this season and the new two seasons.

Sam Reinhart had all negotiating leverage and could have taken an arbitration award that took him straight to UFA.

3 and 1/4 seasons of Mantha is worth more than potentially one season of Reinhart.
- Pegullaville

How dare you use facts, citations, and logic to support your opinion!

Anthony Mantha was also acquired for a playoff run, and is under contract for this season and the new two seasons.

Sam Reinhart had all negotiating leverage and could have taken an arbitration award that took him straight to UFA.

3 and 1/4 seasons of Mantha is worth more than potentially one season of Reinhart.
- Pegullaville

They could've let Reinhart negotiate, and he signed a week later.

Again, what. was. the. rush?

Sabres fan - “We can wait to move Eichel, there’s no rush despite him not wanting to be here and the Sabres not wanting him”

Same Sabres fan “Dude we totally needed to trade Reinhart immediately, he could’ve got hurt and he didn’t want to be here”
- sbroads24

I’m not picking Eichel either way. I gave you a valid reason on moving reinhart. You just said “nuh-uh” and walked away yelling some more.

They could've let Reinhart negotiate, and he signed a week later.

Again, what. was. the. rush?
- sbroads24

Are you saying that they coulda let Reinhart negotiate a contract with all suitors then work back to a trade. Holy reach Batman.

I’m not picking Eichel either way. I gave you a valid reason on moving reinhart. You just said “nuh-uh” and walked away yelling some more.
- SDSabre

Then maybe you shouldn't assume that post was directed at you?

They could've let Reinhart negotiate, and he signed a week later.

Again, what. was. the. rush?
- sbroads24

HE DID NOT Wish to Be Here


Adams received an adequate return for a player that was not locked up to a long term contract.

The fact you are struggling with the simple aspects of this trade is befuddling.

Are you saying that they coulda let Reinhart negotiate a contract with all suitors then work back to a trade. Holy reach Batman.
- SDSabre

Nah, you're right, when teams pull off sign and trades the agents totally get an entire contract worked out in the 15 minutes between when the trade is announced and the extension is announced.

They're just that fast

Then maybe you shouldn't assume that post was directed at you?
- sbroads24

Clarifying to repoint out my argument that you just poopoo’d and moved on. I’ll say it again, if he goes to Arb (which was likely as he didn’t want to be here) that extra leverage makes him a one year rental. A team wouldn’t get to negotiate with him for this year. And he would be walking to UFA. Acting like this isn’t a real thing doesn’t make it so.

Nah, you're right, when teams pull off sign and trades the agents totally get an entire contract worked out in the 15 minutes between when the trade is announced and the extension is announced.

They're just that fast
- sbroads24

How many sign and trades in the last 10 years in the nhl. About as many offer sheets. Maybe we shoulda waited for someone to offer sheet him.

How many sign and trades in the last 10 years in the nhl. About as many offer sheets. Maybe we shoulda waited for someone to offer sheet him.
- SDSabre

Seth Jones was traded to the Blackhawks on draft day, then agreed to an 8 year extension on draft day.

Come on man

How many sign and trades in the last 10 years in the nhl. About as many offer sheets. Maybe we shoulda waited for someone to offer sheet him.
- SDSabre

Seth Jones was traded to the Blackhawks on draft day, then agreed to an 8 year extension on draft day.

Come on man
- sbroads24

And patches in Vegas.. and that’s about it. So like I said, pretty rare. Pointing out 1 doesn’t make it a real common occurrence

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- Michael Pachla

Seth Jones was traded to the Blackhawks on draft day, then agreed to an 8 year extension on draft day.

Come on man
- sbroads24

How do we know that KAGM didn’t try that with Sam ?

We are also talking about a position in RHD that was so highly sought out for this year that Risto garnered a top 15 selection and Tucker Poolman got a 4 year deal.

I’m not happy with the return either, but it’s anybody’a guess as to what was attempted or tried.

Sam’s comparables are Buchnevich and the deadline deals from this past season in Foligno, Hall, and Palmeri. Sam’s return falls in line with what the market was even at the prior TDL and we don’t risk him getting hurt playing games for us in a meaningless season.

Sam Reinhart doesn’t help the tank

Rhino trade is over. Was it the right choice or right time, who knows. Maybe they would have gotten more at the TDL or maybe he gets hurt and we get screwed. The Sabres are already dealing with one injury that is affecting a trade situation, why take a gamble that another one could arise.
- Buff36

Noooooo! This needs to be beaten to death, please.

And patches in Vegas.. and that’s about it. So like I said, pretty rare. Pointing out 1 doesn’t make it a real common occurrence
- SDSabre

The last offer sheet happened 3 years ago with Aho. This just happened two weeks ago. And there's been more than him and Pacioretty

Buchnevich signed almost immediately with the Blues.

Do you not think these teams know whether the player is interested in signing before they make these deals?

I'm positive you aren't that naïve