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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres: 3C – Rasmus Asplund (+ Drought Moments)
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:02 PM ET


Sam’s comparables are Foligno,

- Pegullaville




Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
Did the rugby guy come back to Bills training camp this year?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:03 PM ET

- homiedclown

I stopped there too
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 1:04 PM ET

- homiedclown


Was he or was he not an impending UFA ?

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
How do we know that KAGM didn’t try that with Sam ?

We are also talking about a position in RHD that was so highly sought out for this year that Risto garnered a top 15 selection and Tucker Poolman got a 4 year deal.

I’m not happy with the return either, but it’s anybody’a guess as to what was attempted or tried.

Sam’s comparables are Buchnevich and the deadline deals from this past season in Foligno, Hall, and Palmeri. Sam’s return falls in line with what the market was even at the prior TDL and we don’t risk him getting hurt playing games for us in a meaningless season.

Sam Reinhart doesn’t help the tank

- Pegullaville

The biggest comparable is literally Seth Jones who was in an identical contract situation with a team that he would not re-sign long term with.

One got a massive return and signed immediately.

The other got a brutal return and signed a week later

Adams fumbled it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
Was he or was he not an impending UFA ?
- Pegullaville

foligno had 17 goals in the last 2 years

reinhart had 47

foligno is 33

reinhart is 25


unf@cking real
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
Was he or was he not an impending UFA ?
- Pegullaville

Foligno didn't have a year of team control left.

Why is everyone acting like Reinhart was headed to UFA status this offseason?
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
The last offer sheet happened 3 years ago with Aho. This just happened two weeks ago. And there's been more than him and Pacioretty

Buchnevich signed almost immediately with the Blues.

Do you not think these teams know whether the player is interested in signing before they make these deals?

I'm positive you aren't that naïve

- sbroads24


I’m sure there are some indications, but Vesey proved its not a guarantee. No one is happy with the return. You could be right that KA shoulda waited. Is that what you want? There’s also a higher then 0 chance that the return is similar or worse at the deadline. I’ve thought about this from multiple angles, and understand what you are saying. KA thought it was best to cut ties, prolly from dialogue with Sam and where contract talks were. I’m moving on from this, but it’s been a good debate.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
The biggest comparable is literally Seth Jones who was in an identical contract situation with a team that he would not re-sign long term with.

One got a massive return and signed immediately.

The other got a brutal return and signed a week later

Adams fumbled it

- sbroads24


Last thing, so untrue and disingenuous. The easiest and closest comparable is Buch. Now I know you aren’t that naive.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
Foligno didn't have a year of team control left.

Why is everyone acting like Reinhart was headed to UFA status this offseason?

- sbroads24

33 year old rentals that belong on the 4th line is worth the same as the 11th leading goal scorer at 25 years old with a full season

pay attention
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Last thing, so untrue and disingenuous. The easiest and closest comparable is Buch. Now I know you aren’t that naive.
- SDSabre

Was Buchnevich unwilling to sign in NY?

Because Reinhart wouldn't sign here and Jones publicly said he wouldn't sign in Columbus

Both top 5 picks, both 1 year of team control left

Yes, they are identical
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 1:10 PM ET
foligno had 17 goals in the last 2 years

reinhart had 47

foligno is 33

reinhart is 25


unf@cking real

- homiedclown


Sam got more than Hall, Palmeri, and Buchnevich.

Your move.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
all that is missing now is a Willie O'Keefe quote
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
Noooooo! This needs to be beaten to death, please.
- Powerslave

How about those Yankees!!
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
Last thing, so untrue and disingenuous. The easiest and closest comparable is Buch. Now I know you aren’t that naive.
- SDSabre


Seth Jones’ comparable was Risto.

When Risto garnered 14th OA, Blackhawks had to up the ante for Jones.

Pretty simple to me
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
Was Buchnevich unwilling to sign in NY?

Because Reinhart wouldn't sign here and Jones publicly said he wouldn't sign in Columbus

Both top 5 picks, both 1 year of team control left

Yes, they are identical

- sbroads24


Yeah one got 70M one got 20M.. totally the same.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
Sam got more than Hall, Palmeri, and Buchnevich.

Your move.

- Pegullaville

he's no nick foligno





sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
Yeah one got 70M one got 20M.. totally the same.
- SDSabre

Lmao ones a 8 year deal the other is 3

Talk about disingenuous
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 18 @ 1:14 PM ET
How about those Yankees!!
- Buff36



This.

Luis Gil. That is all.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
he's no nick foligno






- homiedclown

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
This.

Luis Gil. That is all.

- Powerslave

Young kids stepping up, Abreu has been good to.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
Lmao ones a 8 year deal the other is 3

Talk about disingenuous

- sbroads24


You don’t think Sam woulda signed for 9 long term somewhere? Sounds like he wasn’t offered that.

Dude the comp was Buch. You don’t compare cross positions for comps. Don’t be that guy. I know you know better.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Aug 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
Sam got more than Hall, Palmeri, and Buchnevich.

Your move.

- Pegullaville



Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
he's no nick foligno






- homiedclown


Players are worth what others are willing to give up for them.

Skinner isn’t worth $72M either but here we are.

Sam’s worth was a 1st round pick and Devon Levi.

Live with it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:17 PM ET
You don’t think Sam woulda signed for 9 long term somewhere? Sounds like he wasn’t offered that.


- SDSabre

it's rare a non UFA gets offered that in an open market
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