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lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Aug 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
given the subject


when reporters ask every day how many Americans are over in Afghanistan, they should get an answer

I mean they can answer with it's a fluid situation because people are leaving every hour but our estimate as of (fill in the blank) time, there is x number of Americans over there

- homiedclown


I agree the conduct of the administration as regards their flippant attitude pretending this is going super well is kind of outrageous
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:30 PM ET
I'd say most hall of fame defenseman are indeed point producing defenseman.

Below is the list of defensemen with the top 5 probabilities of being inducted into the Hall of Fame if they retired today (minimum 200 games played). Unsurprisingly, the top of the list contains Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Erik Karlsson, Shea Weber, and Duncan Keith.Nov 20, 2020

This argument is as ridiculous as pp points dont count and faceoffs do not matter.

Check out the top hall of defenseman. HOF

- Boss34

brad mccrimmon played in 1222 games beginning in 1979 which included games against two of the greatest dynasties of that era--nyi and edm...he's seventh all-time amongst defensemen in plus/minus with a +448...he's not in the hall of fame

bill hajt played in 854 career games beginning in 1973...he also played against the islanders and edmonton dynasties as well as the "flying frenchmen" dynasty of the 70's...he is a plus-320, which is 14th amongst defensemen...

mccrimmon's 403 points rank him 114th amongst defensemen while hajt's 244 points ranks him 274th amongst d-men

neither are in the hall of fame
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· 1h
Tests results today revealed that Jaguars’ rookie RB Travis Etienne suffered a mid-foot sprain that is Lisfranc that now is likely to end his season, per source.

- Stripes77


This just came in too:
@AdamSchefter
· 15 min ago
Tests results today revealed that Jet Jaguar BD XL 2. Oh should lay off the meth and smoke more weed.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
brad mccrimmon played in 1222 games beginning in 1979 which included games against two of the greatest dynasties of that era--nyi and edm...he's seventh all-time amongst defensemen in plus/minus with a +448...he's not in the hall of fame

bill hajt played in 854 career games beginning in 1973...he also played against the islanders and edmonton dynasties as well as the "flying frenchmen" dynasty of the 70's...he is a plus-320, which is 14th amongst defensemen...

mccrimmon's 403 points rank him 114th amongst defensemen while hajt's 244 points ranks him 274th amongst d-men

neither are in the hall of fame

- Michael Pachla

hajt, rammer and schoenny never sniffed the HOF
rammers was something like plus 199 and only had 1 minus season, -4 for the pens

I think schoenny was 3rd once in norris voting


it's all about points

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
This just came in too:
@AdamSchefter
· 15 min ago
Tests results today revealed that Jet Jaguar BD XL 2. Oh should lay off the meth and smoke more weed.

- Hatboro_Swords

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
how many of them were americans


and how many of them were soldiers they are sending home early


I watch these pressers


they don't have any answers

- homiedclown


there are only 2,500 soldiers in kabul...and what's the difference...the big ta-do was that they were leaving people behind, including americans and afghans who helped us...could almost guarantee that most, if not a good chunk, of those who are on their way out are americans...

the question i'd like answered is why they didn't get out sooner...they had 15 months since the agreement plus a four month extension...

lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine...but the present admin is doing their best to get these people out

Correction: 5,800 troops
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'd say most hall of fame defenseman are indeed point producing defenseman.

Below is the list of defensemen with the top 5 probabilities of being inducted into the Hall of Fame if they retired today (minimum 200 games played). Unsurprisingly, the top of the list contains Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Erik Karlsson, Shea Weber, and Duncan Keith.Nov 20, 2020

This argument is as ridiculous as pp points dont count and faceoffs do not matter.

Check out the top hall of defenseman. HOF

- Boss34

You’re right, it is ridiculous. You’re comparing Rasmus Ristolainen to Alex Pietrangelo because they had similar point totals

That’s such a horrible way to evaluate someone who’s main job is to prevent goals, not get points


But hey. You think a guy with 2 goals and 5 assists for an entire season would be a scoring upgrade. so you’d know bad takes first hand
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
this is fun...
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
hajt, rammer and schoenny never sniffed the HOF
rammers was something like plus 199 and only had 1 minus season, -4 for the pens

I think schoenny was 3rd once in norris voting


it's all about points

- homiedclown


that's my point
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
You’re right, it is ridiculous. You’re comparing Rasmus Ristolainen to Alex Pietrangelo because they had similar point totals

That’s such a horrible way to evaluate someone who’s main job is to prevent goals, not get points


But hey. You think a guy with 2 goals and 5 assists for an entire season would be a scoring upgrade. so you’d know bad takes first hand

- sbroads24

alex pietrangelo oct '18 to jan 1, 2019

4+7 -8

rasmus ristolainen

4+20 -11





but the team around them is meaningless?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
alex pietrangelo oct '18 to jan 1, 2019

4+7 -8

rasmus ristolainen

4+20 -11





but the team around them is meaningless?

- Michael Pachla

I can’t in good faith have a discussion comparing Ristolainen to the leagues 4th or 5th best defensemen

It’s so ridiculous to compare them

We’re just ignoring 90% of the game because the point totals are close
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
I can’t in good faith have a discussion comparing Ristolainen to the leagues 4th or 5th best defensemen

It’s so ridiculous to compare them

We’re just ignoring 90% of the game because the point totals are close

- sbroads24

ain't saying that...

alex pietrangelo is that good, and a potential hall of famer...risto is not that...

just put that up for a bit of a comparison
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
ain't saying that...

alex pietrangelo is that good, and a potential hall of famer...risto is not that...

just put that up for a bit of a comparison

- Michael Pachla


To be fair to Risto, he was a pretty good Power Play QB for a little while.

Apart from that though he really struggled in every other facet of the sport
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
To be fair to Risto, he was a pretty good Power Play QB for a little while.

Apart from that though he really struggled in every other facet of the sport

- Pegullaville

Philly means a fresh start for him and should give us a better idea as to where he really is as a d-man. I expect all of his numbers to be better
Ragenpain
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.24.2017

Aug 24 @ 4:59 PM ET




- homiedclown


Wow look at all those crap players. Bunch of nobodies, haven't heard of any of them before.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
alex pietrangelo oct '18 to jan 1, 2019

4+7 -8

rasmus ristolainen

4+20 -11





but the team around them is meaningless?

- Michael Pachla


Yeah, one played, for the sake of argument on a "staked team" one played with teams that won the lottery was in the lottery and just lost the lottery. Five men units matter. Erhoff had a 99 WAR number and strong advanced stats before he came to the Sabres and then...... bought out.

Homie was a Risto supporter what happened? He's a follower?
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Aug 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
Philly means a fresh start for him and should give us a better idea as to where he really is as a d-man. I expect all of his numbers to be better
- Michael Pachla


I’d like to think so too. They way he often went out of his way to get physical, well it just seemed like someone was in his ear about it. It just didn’t seem natural but then again..what do I know!?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
brad mccrimmon played in 1222 games beginning in 1979 which included games against two of the greatest dynasties of that era--nyi and edm...he's seventh all-time amongst defensemen in plus/minus with a +448...he's not in the hall of fame

bill hajt played in 854 career games beginning in 1973...he also played against the islanders and edmonton dynasties as well as the "flying frenchmen" dynasty of the 70's...he is a plus-320, which is 14th amongst defensemen...

mccrimmon's 403 points rank him 114th amongst defensemen while hajt's 244 points ranks him 274th amongst d-men

neither are in the hall of fame

- Michael Pachla



Appreciate the research.

Almost Everyone judges defenseman by points.
It's easy and fun.

Pp points don't count
Face off do not matter
Defenseman are forbidden from scoring

Ralph ruined jeff skimmer at his 9 million salary
Cody. Eakin. Has had a terrible career. At 2+ million
Even strength goals matter, except girgs and cody. eakin.



Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 24 @ 5:15 PM ET
Philly means a fresh start for him and should give us a better idea as to where he really is as a d-man. I expect all of his numbers to be better
- Michael Pachla


Risto is going to be excellent in Philadelphia.
He's going to continue to have a great career.

Wait until the playoffs, viking55 is going to be a beast.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
Appreciate the research.

Almost Everyone judges defenseman by points.
It's easy and fun.

Pp points don't count
Face off do not matter
Defenseman are forbidden from scoring

Ralph ruined jeff skimmer at his 9 million salary
Cody. Eakin. Has had a terrible career. At 2+ million
Even strength goals matter, except girgs and cody. eakin.

- Boss34

Judging players strictly on points or goals is how you are lead to believe Cody Eakin and Rasmus Ristolainen are good hockey players

I just remember me and a few people on here, coincidentally people that don’t use plus/minus and just cite point totals, trying to convince you guys Eakin was going to be terrible. Oh well
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 24 @ 5:30 PM ET


Homie was a Risto supporter what happened? He's a follower?

- GilPerreault11


not sure why you want to bring me into this

I mean I can only say so many times, he was not as good as I hoped for, but IMO he was the whipping boy of the month and got labeled as a scape goat


like satan was
like roy was
like ror was
like myers was
like reinhart was
like vanek was
like eichel is


I don't feel the need to get in the risto conversation daily

I was hoping he would sign an extension and stay here and when we are good there will be a void for a physical Rd to play 20 or more minutes a night that we wont have

bottom line, he wasn't the biggest issue and wasn't as bad as many say


but

he gone

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
Judging players strictly on points or goals is how you are lead to believe Cody Eakin and Rasmus Ristolainen are good hockey players

I just remember me and a few people on here, coincidentally people that don’t use plus/minus and just cite point totals, trying to convince you guys Eakin was going to be terrible. Oh well

- sbroads24

+/- is a good stat to a point


but




if your team is bad, and you are playing a lot of minutes when the team is trying to tie it up or the goalie is yanked


your probably adding a -20 to your name just for being in those situations a lot


it's a more accurate stat for the bottom half of your roster because they are not playing those moments


just like a good player on a good team gets a plus 20 bump for being on the ice for those situations
Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look 👀 at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Aug 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
It would probably really piss you off to know I was a college professor too. I taught the kids all about the Afghan forces in England and when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

https://youtu.be/q7vtWB4owdE

- lacaprup

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
Judging players strictly on points or goals is how you are lead to believe Cody Eakin and Rasmus Ristolainen are good hockey players

I just remember me and a few people on here, coincidentally people that don’t use plus/minus and just cite point totals, trying to convince you guys Eakin was going to be terrible. Oh well

- sbroads24


Judging players solely on statistics, analytics or advanced stats leaves a void ..... of reason.

Eakin had 22 goals in 1 season, the season or 2 before we signed him.

Johan Larsson prior to last season in arizona,

30 goals in nhl 306 games.

I'd bet the odds of eakin scoring more goals again.
Next. Season.

It's funny how your giving me a hard time about a few posts. I'm enjoying it. ☝️
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Appreciate the research.

Almost Everyone judges defenseman by points.
It's easy and fun.

Pp points don't count
Face off do not matter
Defenseman are forbidden from scoring

Ralph ruined jeff skimmer at his 9 million salary
Cody. Eakin. Has had a terrible career. At 2+ million
Even strength goals matter, except girgs and cody. eakin.

- Boss34


You forgot special teams don't matter. That one was a classic.

I think most people who said when Cody Eakin was signed and they said see ya to Latsson it was more who cares about Larsson and new blood is good especially when you looked at Eakin's past stats. It wasn't so much starting an Eakin fan club but an anything but this crap. I personally was so sick of losing with Johan Larsson, and Great28, having Sam and Skinner as their top effing wingers which I have a tough time understanding why people shed one tear for Sam leaving and not paying those two 16 million collectively long term in the top 6 instead of moving on. I am ecstatic about how they held on and got what they did for Risto and have no problem with trading him and I was a Risto supporter but it was time to cut the cord. Now, it is time, soon, to make the right Jack deal.
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