Being “good” has nothing to do with leadership. Sure, if your team isn’t good your record will suck but can still go out & give/show 100% effort. If your leadership sucks the effort will be inconsistent (getting embarrassingly outplayed multiple times against Buffalo) which has been the norm with the Flyers for the last 5 or so seasons inconsistent effort.
- Fopa21

Correct. A team can have a bad season. It's all about the presentation and how they play the games. This team packed it in way to many times. Leaders do not allow that t be a continuing problem.

what term and amount in your opinion.
- hello it's me 2050

I think MB has been known to play his cards close to the vest. It would be unusual for him to make statements of contract value in public prior to the appropriate time and after having consulted with both CF and the Giroux camp. They've noticed his posts here on HB for years and respect his opinion highly.

Like the upside of zanetti.


Anyone else think we sign Van De Leest as a project player?

Try 2030-1992=what?
- Stayin alive

The season doesn’t run into the following December. Try again.

Why not? Last year was a difficult time, yet Buchnevich put up strong scoring totals. It should be more of precursor based on how things were. The only scoring advantage Hoffman has over Saad is on the PP. Saad didn't get much time on the PP in Colorado. I bet that changes in St. Louis.
- MJL

Some shined others didn’t. Over under for buch 73 points? Curious why he was traded and has a really good deal for star caliber.

Being “good” has nothing to do with leadership. Sure, if your team isn’t good your record will suck but can still go out & give/show 100% effort. If your leadership sucks the effort will be inconsistent (getting embarrassingly outplayed multiple times against Buffalo) which has been the norm with the Flyers for the last 5 or so seasons inconsistent effort.
- Fopa21

I think you're completely wrong. Not being a good team manifests itself into a lack of leadership. If you're a better team than you are better prepared to compete when you have an off night as a team. Better able to sustain the emotional ups and downs of an NHL season. Better able to sustain a hectic schedule and when the team doesn't have it's legs or it's "A" game. The idea that bringing in some players who wore letters on their sweaters who collectively haven't won squat in the NHL will fix the leadership issues on the team is really a stretch. It's far more likely that they will help improve and make them a better team and a more consistent team.

Some shined others didn’t. Over under for buch 73 points? Curious why he was traded and has a really good deal for star caliber.
- Peter Richards

I'm curious also why he was traded. As I posted before, I think it was a really stupid move by the Rangers in an attempt to add more grit to the team. I understand the grit part but you don't trade a player like Buchnevich to do it.



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I'm curious also why he was traded. As I posted before, I think it was a really stupid move by the Rangers in an attempt to add more grit to the team. I understand the grit part but you don't trade a player like Buchnevich to do it.



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- MJL

Fair enough. He has the skills but I think his consistency like Krieder or jvr will always be an issue. Dominates one skates through another.

So no Stanley Cup OT winners Catapulting us to another round of the playoffs? Right. Gotcha.

He can play through pain. He’s easily our most responsible player but that hat trick his rookie year was nearly 10 years ago and overshadowed by Giroux’s hat trick the same game.

The fact you’re this offended by my post furthers my point. He can still be a really good player and our team’s most important player and not be a clutch player, which I don’t find him to be in big moments.
- SuperSchennBros

You are absolutely clueless

I'm curious also why he was traded. As I posted before, I think it was a really stupid move by the Rangers in an attempt to add more grit to the team. I understand the grit part but you don't trade a player like Buchnevich to do it.



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- MJL

Actually reason he was traded is very simple. He is a UFA at end of this year and they were not going to be able to sign him so they got a 3-4th line winger who fills a need and a 2nd round pick. Rangers are loaded with youth and quality wingers that they want to play. Top 6 wingers Panarin..Kreider..Lafraniere..Kakko..Kratsov plus will have some guys like Fox coming due for extensions. One of those will have to play 3rd line with Goodrow and likely Blias. Buch is a real good player and may even get better but cant afford to keep everyone with the CAP

So it’s only clutch if you win the series? It’s a team game, you can only do your part and the guy has certainly done that.
- ClaudeFather

Is it clutch when you lose the game? Is it clutch when you haven’t scored a big goal in a big moment? Give me your definition of clutch.

You are absolutely clueless
- BenderRodriguez

Whatever you say fan boy.

Whatever you say fan boy.
- SuperSchennBros

Says the guy with the Schenn bros handle...

Says the guy with the Schenn bros handle...
- BenderRodriguez

Says the guy you can’t prove to be wrong…but I’m the clueless one

Says the guy you can’t prove to be wrong…but I’m the clueless one
- SuperSchennBros

???

Actually reason he was traded is very simple. He is a UFA at end of this year and they were not going to be able to sign him so they got a 3-4th line winger who fills a need and a 2nd round pick. Rangers are loaded with youth and quality wingers that they want to play. Top 6 wingers Panarin..Kreider..Lafraniere..Kakko..Kratsov plus will have some guys like Fox coming due for extensions. One of those will have to play 3rd line with Goodrow and likely Blias. Buch is a real good player and may even get better but cant afford to keep everyone with the CAP
- hfc355

I disagree that they wouldn't be able to re-sign him. Goodrow is a good solid 3rd line winger but you don't trade a player who is trending towards being an elite player because you want to add grit. They made the wrong choice in my opinion.

Fair enough. He has the skills but I think his consistency like Krieder or jvr will always be an issue. Dominates one skates through another.
- Peter Richards

Based on what information? He has been doing nothing but trending upwards. You're just making it up. There is no information that supports what you just posted.

Based on what information? He has been doing nothing but trending upwards. You're just making it up. There is no information that supports what you just posted.
- MJL

Lol. I’m looking at his body of work. Last year while I think the stats are skewed as it was a weird season look at his points game by game. He feasted on the bottom three teams and was streaky against the top teams. Last season was his best and right now an outlier points wise. How many goals did matthews have last year. You think that is a precursor to this season?

You say he is poised to break into star caliber and said you would bet on it. Why I said before over under 73 points. But again. Then why trade him. Why would he sign the contract he did? Imo he’s a second line winger who can play on the first if needed. Put up 40-60 points. You get 60 out of him and that’s great.

Lol. I’m looking at his body of work. Last year while I think the stats are skewed as it was a weird season look at his points game by game. He feasted on the bottom three teams and was streaky against the top teams. Last season was his best and right now an outlier points wise. How many goals did matthews have last year. You think that is a precursor to this season?

You say he is poised to break into star caliber and said you would bet on it. Why I said before over under 73 points. But again. Then why trade him. Why would he sign the contract he did? Imo he’s a second line winger who can play on the first if needed. Put up 40-60 points. You get 60 out of him and that’s great.
- Peter Richards

We said the same thing going into last year after the playoff round win..couldnt wait for last yr to start. We shall see but season is going to be 75% dependent on the goaltending and thats a big question mark
- hfc355

That's absolutely correct. I think we all had high hopes with the way that the team played in 19/20 but this is so different now.
It's a new group!
New faces who have a fresh start!
I have complete faith that Chuck identified his problem players and shipped them out!
It's true that Hart struggled mightily and given that he was basically alone for a year I have no doubt that depression set in. That's brutal on so many levels. Obviously the organization saw things along those same lines because hart got his payday and that season was clearly not held against him. That's solid faith in a player by an organization. I assume they know the truth of all of it.
We have an improved power play
Improved penalty kill
And this team is hungry

There is so much to be excited for this upcoming season

What identity do you think the team has or will have?
- hello it's me 2050

I can't answer that until the season starts.
It's one of the many wonderful things about this upcoming season though!
Let's go flyers!!

???
- BenderRodriguez

You called me clueless. You never made your point as to why or how.

Couturier is arguably our best player. Definitely our most important player. If Patrice Bergeron is the standard, Sean Couturier still needs that defining clutch moment. I’m not question his toughness or his ability to do his job but in terms of scoring a big goal or making a big play in a big moment, Bergeron is leaps and bounds ahead of Couturier. At some point we need to realize the most important season is the post season.

Now if this is a clueless statement that you can’t challenge, Maybe you shouldn’t say anything at all.

Like the upside of zanetti.


Anyone else think we sign Van De Leest as a project player?
- Peter Richards

His sheer size alone would be an insurance policy for our young stars in the AHL.
No dirty hits on our guys or you get beaten by van de leest the beast

I really am hoping he gets a contract and I admittedly know little about him except that he is a massive, massive mofo

His sheer size alone would be an insurance policy for our young stars in the AHL.
No dirty hits on our guys or you get beaten by van de leest the beast

I really am hoping he gets a contract and I admittedly know little about him except that he is a massive, massive mofo
- Bob Habib

Lol. The big guys always take longer to develop. Yeah I would take a chance on him.

Lol. I’m looking at his body of work. Last year while I think the stats are skewed as it was a weird season look at his points game by game. He feasted on the bottom three teams and was streaky against the top teams. Last season was his best and right now an outlier points wise. How many goals did matthews have last year. You think that is a precursor to this season?

You say he is poised to break into star caliber and said you would bet on it. Why I said before over under 73 points. But again. Then why trade him. Why would he sign the contract he did? Imo he’s a second line winger who can play on the first if needed. Put up 40-60 points. You get 60 out of him and that’s great.
- Peter Richards

Please provide the evidence of those stats that you claim. Buchnevich's complete stats including all of the underlying numbers have been provided to you from the last 3 years. You have provided nothing. I agree, why trade him. He had 48 points in 54 games last year but that doesn't fit your narrative so it's skewed. You claim it's an outlier which is an asinine point of view since he is a developing player. A smart analysis is that he has been doing nothing but trending up as a player.