$20 signing bonus LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
- Tomahawk

A one year offer sheet make no sense. It seems as though the Canes don't really want the player.

Thee 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers Will Be A Massive Pile Of Purulent Excrement
- penguininnevada

you're being too generous

What did people say about Myers or zamula before they were offered a try out?
Let's hope he develops. He is big and a defenseman so it may be a slow development. I just hope if the talent is there that the flyers brass can recognize it and get him on board
If reeves has a place in the NHL this kid can too
- Bob Habib

I’m not sure the kid has the mobility to get to the next level….but I guess it depends on what they see. Nothing wrong with adding size and toughness….but I’m not sure he has the upside to play pro hockey….also nothing wrong with bringing him in for a look see….obviously they see something.

with eflin gone i would have thought the phils would fold but nope they go back to back

You haven't made a valid point in this entire conversation. You're arguing just to argue and haven't made a sensible argument.
- MJL

I provided stats which you acknowledged and then stated I didn’t provide anything. You used analytics to make your speculation. You mentioned how many points he had last year. I pointed out the game splits and swings in his scoring. 19 of his points were against us and Jersey. You showed a chart and said he is gonna be a star player. You’re right we have different opinions. I might be wrong. You might be wrong. Yes twice in his career he was above 16 shooting percentage. The other seasons were around 10-12 percent. I stand by my statement of he’s a second line player that can help on the first line due to injuries.

But cool. Nothing provided is valid. I’ll move on.

Our last disagreement was about brassard. Hilarious.

AGREED, i am excited, hopefully the culture issue is fixed with the new players and removing Jake. Most of the new players have had a letter on their jersey, cant hurt the leadership. Most of our leaders have been the quiet type, i am hopung Chuck nailed it this offseason. Just losing PAtricks ice time alone should help this team. And Ellis....yes, i am excited
- bradster

I don’t think it’s fair to say the guys they got rid of were the problem….you can’t trade everyone….clearly the mix didn’t seem to be working. I’m glad they have done an over haul. I’m personally not upset by any of the departures as I agreed with Fletchers assessment that there seemed to be a malaise over this team….it’s great to have youth, but some seem to equate youth with future success…if your young guys aren’t producing and are not growing and progressing….what good is it having young guys that aren’t very good?

I don’t think it’s fair to say the guys they got rid of were the problem….you can’t trade everyone….clearly the mix didn’t seem to be working. I’m glad they have done an over haul. I’m personally not upset by any of the departures as I agreed with Fletchers assessment that there seemed to be a malaise over this team….it’s great to have youth, but some seem to equate youth with future success…if your young guys aren’t producing and are not growing and progressing….what good is it having young guys that aren’t very good?
- landros 2

Absolutely. It will be interesting to see what Patrick’s role on vegas is if any. But I like the moves. Something had to change.

I don’t think it’s fair to say the guys they got rid of were the problem….you can’t trade everyone….clearly the mix didn’t seem to be working. I’m glad they have done an over haul. I’m personally not upset by any of the departures as I agreed with Fletchers assessment that there seemed to be a malaise over this team….it’s great to have youth, but some seem to equate youth with future success…if your young guys aren’t producing and are not growing and progressing….what good is it having young guys that aren’t very good?
- landros 2

I dont think they were all problems, but they werent the solution. The youth we got rid of havent proven they are good nhl players. So trading a potential for current talent is what this team needed right now, i think Chuck nailed it. Cant keep going on the way they have the last 10 years.

Absolutely. It will be interesting to see what Patrick’s role on vegas is if any. But I like the moves. Something had to change.
- Peter Richards

I couldnt care less of patrick turns into a good player. Chuck had to get rid of him. He has shown me nothing except a good 3 weeks a couple years ago, and 3 years of poor play. And AV gave him every opportunity to succeed this year, and he failed terribly.

How do you think the pens will do
- Peter Richards

penguins 5 stanley cups
flyers 2 stanley cups

penguins 5 stanley cups
flyers 2 stanley cups
- penguininnevada

Yeah yeah. This year….,

I couldnt care less of patrick turns into a good player. Chuck had to get rid of him. He has shown me nothing except a good 3 weeks a couple years ago, and 3 years of poor play. And AV gave him every opportunity to succeed this year, and he failed terribly.
- bradster

I almost always keep tabs on people who played here more than a year or high draft picks. No worries.

I provided stats which you acknowledged and then stated I didn’t provide anything. You used analytics to make your speculation. You mentioned how many points he had last year. I pointed out the game splits and swings in his scoring. 19 of his points were against us and Jersey. You showed a chart and said he is gonna be a star player. You’re right we have different opinions. I might be wrong. You might be wrong. Yes twice in his career he was above 16 shooting percentage. The other seasons were around 10-12 percent. I stand by my statement of he’s a second line player that can help on the first line due to injuries.

But cool. Nothing provided is valid. I’ll move on.

Our last disagreement was about brassard. Hilarious.
- Peter Richards

You didn't provide any stats about his game splits. You were asked to do so. Every top offensive player scores more points against the weaker teams. Every top goal scorers shot % wavers from season to season. These are facts that you are apparently unaware of. The most prolific goal scorers in the history of the league have wavering shot % numbers. Nothing of what you provided points to Buchnevich being a 2nd line player. All of his stats and numbers point to him being a 1st line player and a very good one at that. There's fantasy and there is reality.

I am here to talk flyers hockey and just hockey in general. I try not to get caught up in the pissing contests and negativity on here

I am very excited for this team and for the attitude I feel that this time now has.
We may finally get to see this team have an Identity! How long has it been since they had one?
- Bob Habib

Its great to hear....yeah I'm a Flyers fan and a hockey fan in general...best sport ever. This team has been to the playoffs every other year so this is the year. I'm always positive before camp. Looking forward to the season

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Sign Sean Couturier to Eight-Year Extension
- bmeltzer

Crazy.... 8y

You didn't provide any stats about his game splits. You were asked to do so. Every top offensive player scores more points against the weaker teams. Every top goal scorers shot % wavers from season to season. These are facts that you are apparently unaware of. The most prolific goal scorers in the history of the league have wavering shot % numbers. Nothing of what you provided points to Buchnevich being a 2nd line player. All of his stats and numbers point to him being a 1st line player and a very good one at that. There's fantasy and there is reality.
- MJL

Fact he never scored more than 50 points in a season. That is not a very good first line player. Period. All stats were provided with the link I provided. Again not sure why you insist none weee provided.

$20 signing bonus LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
- Tomahawk

He is as good as gone now! These types of vengeful and spiteful offer sheets make this exciting
20 million signing bonus is just a cherry on top

I’m not sure the kid has the mobility to get to the next level….but I guess it depends on what they see. Nothing wrong with adding size and toughness….but I’m not sure he has the upside to play pro hockey….also nothing wrong with bringing him in for a look see….obviously they see something.

- landros 2

Agreed I am just hoping that he is another guy who fell through the cracks just like Myers and zamula. Can we strike lightning 3 times?!

Fact he never scored more than 50 points in a season. That is not a very good first line player. Period. All stats were provided with the link I provided. Again not sure why you insist none weee provided.
- Peter Richards

You provided a link to his game stats. I asked for you to provide and point out specific stats so we can discuss it and to make your point. You failed to do so. It seems as though you are not getting that he is a developing player. Fact is he was 13th among all NHL left wings in scoring last year. There are 30 teams in the league. That puts him very squarely in the first line category. He was 14th in the entire league out of all players in pts/60. Ahead of players like Draisaitl, Pasternak, Scheifle, Zibanejad, Aho, Point and Barkov. All of the information points to Buchnevich being the real deal. You made a desperate reach looking at game logs and then tried to pass off shot% as a way of trying to support your opinion. All you did is show ignorance because we can look at all of the top players and top goal scorers in the league and see the same thing. Take a look at Ovechkin's shot% in his career. You ignore the avalanche of evidence that shows that you're wrong. We're done here.

He is as good as gone now! These types of vengeful and spiteful offer sheets make this exciting
20 million signing bonus is just a cherry on top
- Bob Habib

Not 20M. It's 20 bucks.

with eflin gone i would have thought the phils would fold but nope they go back to back
- 2Real

They’re tickling your balls. I’m not putting any stock in it as much as I love the Phils. They were borderline material as it was before losing Rhys.

You provided a link to his game stats. I asked for you to provide specific stats so we can discuss it and to make your point. You failed to do so. It seems as though you are not getting that he is a developing player. Fact is he was 13th among all NHL left wings in scoring last year. There are 30 teams in the league. That puts him very squarely in the first line category. He was 14th in the entire league out of all players in pts/60. Ahead of players like Draisaitl, Pasternak, Scheifle, Zibanejad, Aho, Point and Barkov. All of the information points to Buchnevich being the real deal. You made a desperate reach looking at game logs and then tried to pass off shot% as a way of trying to support your opinion. All you did is show ignorance because we can look at all of the top players and top goal scorers in the league and see the same thing. Take a look at Ovechkin's shot% in his career. You ignore the avalanche of evidence that shows that you're wrong. We're done here.
- MJL

On paper. Not in reality. You compare and say he’s ahead of pastrnak leon and such. Seriously you can’t be comparing him to them. Last year was different and you know it. Are you saying he’s one of the 15 top left wings in the game? If so no way. All players you said he was above are better players than him. Period.

What specific stats could you not find using the link?
Also there are 31 teams in the league last year. Now 32.

Not 20M. It's 20 bucks.
- MJL

Yeah, $20 bucks, as in Sebastian Aho #20.

And just in case anybody thought that was all coincidence, @Canes official twitter brought out their (frank)ing blow torch:

Carolina Hurricanes
@Canes
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Les Hurricanes ont annoncé aujourd’hui avoir déposé une offre hostile au joueur autonome avec restriction Jesperi Kotkaniemi des Canadiens de la Montreal. L’entente proposée est d’une durée de un ans et d’une valeur annuelle moyenne de 6,1 millions $.

And then followed it up with the old Uno reverse card.

Yeah, $20 bucks, as in Sebastian Aho #20.

And just in case anybody thought that was all coincidence, @Canes official twitter brought out their (frank)ing blow torch:



And then followed it up with the old Uno reverse card.


- Tomahawk

Yeah. I remember Paul h. Said he got the cold shoulder from others after he offer sheeted Weber.

Yeah. I remember Paul h. Said he got the cold shoulder from others after he offer sheeted Weber.
- Peter Richards

At the time, I believe some suspected Preds refused to trade for Vinny when we tried to get rid of him because of the offer sheet