This is a good deal. I applaud Fletch.

I have never been a fan of Coots. That said, it is a good deal for the Flyers and any possible trade partners down the road.

This isn’t a deal to gripe about.

Ristolainen, Thompson, and Brassard? Sure. Retaining AV and his lackeys? Even more.


Couturier deal is a win.
- FlyerFan3260

Nate Tombstone on par with Couts skating speed

This is a good deal. I applaud Fletch.

I have never been a fan of Coots. That said, it is a good deal for the Flyers and any possible trade partners down the road.
- cdearth23

NTC?

NTC?
- THE EVIL WITHIN

NTC or NMC? I've hear there is one included. Makes it much more difficult. Player has to agree on destination.

Even with a NTC, there is still a option based on the player's preferences, correct? There are very few true NO TRADE clauses. Players still can get moved as long as they agree to it? Or is that strictly a NMC...

The same folks griping about the term would be griping instead about cap hit had it been something several seasons shorter.
- bmeltzer

It's a great deal 👌 Loui Eriksson and Karlsson was bad deals from the get go.

NTC or NMC? I've hear there is one included. Makes it much more difficult. Player has to agree on destination.

Even with a NTC, there is still a option based on the player's preferences, correct? There are very few true NO TRADE clauses. Players still can get moved as long as they agree to it? Or is that strictly a NMC...
- cdearth23

EDIT: Clause: Clauses are additional parameters added to contracts that protect the player in certain transactions. No-Movement Clauses (NMCs) and No-Trade Clauses (NTCs) are negotiated by a player and his representatives to limit the types of transactions that can be performed by the team with respect to that player. Players are only eligible for these clauses in years when they would be eligible for Unrestricted Free Agency (27 years of age or older, or 7 or more accrued seasons).

– An NMC prohibits a team from moving a player by trade, loan or waivers, or assigning that player to the minors without the player’s consent. This keeps the player with the pro team unless that player permits a move by one of these means. An NMC does not restrict a team from buying out or terminating a player’s contract.

– An NTC is less prohibitive, as it only places restrictions on movement by trade. A player with an NTC cannot be traded by a team unless the player provides consent. A Partial or Modified NTC is often less restrictive than a Full NTC, and is defined by the conditions outlined in the player’s contract. Often these NTCs have conditions that give the player the right to provide a list of teams to which the player can or cannot be traded. Many players will have NMCs tied to their contracts with Partial or Modified NTCs. These prevent the team from moving the player via loan or waivers, but give the team options for trading the player.

derp

How could anyone knock this deal? There are guys getting 9-10 mil a year that are not as good as Coots….anyone think he should have been paid less then JVR or Hayes?
The player took less for term….good on him. As the cap will start to raise next year this deal will age better then some think. Keep in mind he “is” the Flyers best player.

Remember that in 5 yrs when he has 4 yrs left on his contract
- hfc355

he really hasnt set a high bar......but yes the backend on deals like these, across all sports, dont look good

How could anyone knock this deal? There are guys getting 9-10 mil a year that are not as good as Coots….anyone think he should have been paid less then JVR or Hayes?
The player took less for term….good on him. As the cap will start to raise next year this deal will age better then some think. Keep in mind he “is” the Flyers best player.
- landros 2

it is not the deal it is the people.

NTC or NMC? I've hear there is one included. Makes it much more difficult. Player has to agree on destination.

Even with a NTC, there is still a option based on the player's preferences, correct? There are very few true NO TRADE clauses. Players still can get moved as long as they agree to it? Or is that strictly a NMC...
- cdearth23

a player can always waive either clause for a trade should the proposal be agreed upon by both sides.

An NMC goes a little bit farther so that the player cannot be drafted by expansion teams, nor can they be be waived and/or sent to the minors.

What tag is Rinaldo using these days?
- SuperSchennBros

Man City.....i also PMd you this months ago so you would not look silly arguing with him

NTC or NMC? I've hear there is one included. Makes it much more difficult. Player has to agree on destination.

Even with a NTC, there is still a option based on the player's preferences, correct? There are very few true NO TRADE clauses. Players still can get moved as long as they agree to it? Or is that strictly a NMC...
- cdearth23

Bill tweeted it has a full NMC for 1st 7 years. Partial no trade the last year.

7.75 mill and 8 years seems a little much for a 3rd Line C

he really hasnt set a high bar......but yes the backend on deals like these across all sports doesnt look good
- THE BLACK HAND

It's all forgotten if the Flyers win some hardware🥤

How would G fit for 5 on this caped out team 🤔 Brassard deal is perfect for Kenny G
- THE EVIL WITHIN

No Kenny….what a mess

This probably makes certain who the captain will be after G retires.

it is not the deal it is the people.
- wcorvette

Some guys are worried about the last 4-5 years of the deal. If Couts declines

This probably makes certain who the captain will be after G retires.
- Flyerz74

Brassard! Book it! 🤡

The same folks griping about the term would be griping instead about cap hit had it been something several seasons shorter.
- bmeltzer

Yeah, well, they both would be too high!

Man City.....i also PMd you this months ago so you would not look silly arguing with him
- THE BLACK HAND

Your join date is 6/21. How do you know this rinaldo guy? Tried searching for his post and they go back years. Way before 6/21.

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Sign Sean Couturier to Eight-Year Extension
- bmeltzer

Condolences to those 14 (at least) families who lost a brave servicemember today. These are the deaths that punch you in the gut and hit you hard

Wow under contract for 9 more years till age 38....This contract isnt going to age well at all...He didnt take a discount he just got his salary spread over a longer period of time by giving him 8 yrs on top of his 1 remaining year...With a couple of knee injuries in the past and having limited speed to start with back half of this contract gonna be a killer.
- hfc355

This guy gets it!!!

Your join date is 6/21. How do you know this rinaldo guy? Tried searching for his post and they go back years. Way before 6/21.
- hello it's me 2050

don't need to join the site in order to visit it or read comments genius.

he really hasnt set a high bar......but yes the backend on deals like these, across all sports, dont look good
- THE BLACK HAND

This is a direct consequence from the hard cap bull**** the NHL has implemented, teams today sign those players to max term deals in the expectation that the cap will keep going up every year and make the contract look more palatable in the future. If teams were allowed to go over the cap and pay some sort of luxury tax, they would be able throw the money on short term deals that would give them the flexibility to turn the ship around if things don't work out.

the league needs to do a better job in the next CBA negotiations to protect the team front offices from those long term contracts. Not just to protect the GMs from their own stupidity but also from the predatory nature of players agents looking to maximize their earnings. They should do like the NBA and restrict to 4 years deals, 5 if you stay with the same team. It would make off seasons more entertaining as well with more star players moving in and out.