I expect the same. I know he wants to win here and really hope we can get it done in the coming years. He deserves it.
- Hextall271

Nah, I’ve read he doesn’t care about winning. He can take it or leave it.

As a Pens fan, you can rest easy knowing that Chuck will tack on that extra $2M to Risto's extension.


- Tomahawk

that makes me happy.

pens wont be good for any of these years, so really the main goal is hoping the flyers dont suddenly stumble their way into a cup.

Nah, I’ve read he doesn’t care about winning. He can take it or leave it.
- Ftown19125

I heard the same. He’s comfortable making cash money, and grabbing male officer’s TUSH on Canada day.

Love this deal........We resigned our own Selke winner, probably the most complete player we've had in years, at minimum 1Mil less per than he would have brought as a free agent to the highest bidder (granted it would have been 7 and not 8 years) More importantly he wants to be here, Nurse just got a few mil more per, Who would you rather have, Nurse or Couts? Thrilled at what it came through as - as I was expecting 8.25-8.5mil No way he was going to sign a 4-5 year contract with us or anyone else, This was his pay day and he earned it. That last contract was one of the top 5 bargains in the league last year.

Love this deal........We resigned our own Selke winner, probably the most complete player we've had in years, at minimum 1Mil less per than he would have brought as a free agent to the highest bidder (granted it would have been 7 and not 8 years) More importantly he wants to be here, Nurse just got a few mil more per, Who would you rather have, Nurse or Couts? Thrilled at what it came through as - as I was expecting 8.25-8.5mil No way he was going to sign a 4-5 year contract with us or anyone else, This was his pay day and he earned it. That last contract was one of the top 5 bargains in the league last year.
- GPerogie

Apples and oranges to compare this deal to nurse. Center - defenseman. age difference. UFA vs RFA

Your comment about him earning this payday states that the Flyers are paying for past performance - not future performance. Rarely do deals going into age 38 years at high cap hits work out well. I wonder what the buyout hit will be in year 6 or 7?

Apples and oranges to compare this deal to nurse. Center - defenseman. age difference. UFA vs RFA

Your comment about him earning this payday states that the Flyers are paying for past performance - not future performance. Rarely do deals going into age 38 years at high cap hits work out well. I wonder what the buyout hit will be in year 6 or 7?
- corduroy

How good will he be in year 5?

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Sign Sean Couturier to Eight-Year Extension
- bmeltzer

So where is PT explaining why red headed hockey players over the age of 31 lose muscle mass in there thighs?

So where is PT explaining why red headed hockey players over the age of 31 lose muscle mass in there thighs?
- Angus4444

Hopefully banned for life

How good will he be in year 5?
- Oberyn23

If year five is the cut-off, then why sign him for three extra years? I don't hate this deal, nor do I like it. It is what it is, but it pays for previous performance; no one told him to sign a 6-year deal for 4M and change years ago. He took security over a future pay day - it is not the Flyer's responsibility to make up the fact that he outperformed the contract.

Apples and oranges to compare this deal to nurse. Center - defenseman. age difference. UFA vs RFA

Your comment about him earning this payday states that the Flyers are paying for past performance - not future performance. Rarely do deals going into age 38 years at high cap hits work out well. I wonder what the buyout hit will be in year 6 or 7?
- corduroy

Alright so you let him walk........Free agency......Or maybe trade him at the deadline for assets, How do you replace him exactly? Is Hayes going to thrive more with the extra time and responsibility? Yes you are paying for past performance, You are paying for the potential of many years of future performance as well, last few years may be scary, maybe he'll be relied on in a D roll by than similar to Clarke's later days. Do you really just let him walk being you feel he's now overpaid IMO He is one of the unreplaceable players on the team, This teams record in games without him is rough, There's risk, every contract has risk, but paying a true team player like him is not a bad move to me, Do you actually think he would have signed for 5 years and left 2-3 on the table. He and the team both know by the end of this contract he likely will be declining, hence why the cap hit fell where it did. If we had an up and coming potential shutdown center maybe this would be different but with where the team sits, he is the cornerstone of this team.

If year five is the cut-off, then why sign him for three extra years? I don't hate this deal, nor do I like it. It is what it is, but it pays for previous performance; no one told him to sign a 6-year deal for 4M and change years ago. He took security over a future pay day - it is not the Flyer's responsibility to make up the fact that he outperformed the contract.
- corduroy

I think he’s made some pretty good money in his career, so I don’t think he’s been looking to fleece a franchise on his next deal. Also, he seems to be the right type of player to commit to long term on that kind of deal…definitely could bite you in the ass…I guess that depends on your personal feelings on the state of the team, and how to get a cup back to Philly.

2022-23: $1.75MM salary + $6.0MM signing bonus
2023-24: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2024-25: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2025-26: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2026-27: $1.75MM salary + $6.0MM signing bonus
2027-28: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2028-29: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2029-30: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus

Full NMC first 7 years, mNTC year 7. So untraceable and buyout proof. This deal is going to hurt so much for the final 3 years.

Alright so you let him walk........Free agency......Or maybe trade him at the deadline for assets, How do you replace him exactly? Is Hayes going to thrive more with the extra time and responsibility? Yes you are paying for past performance, You are paying for the potential of many years of future performance as well, last few years may be scary, maybe he'll be relied on in a D roll by than similar to Clarke's later days. Do you really just let him walk being you feel he's now overpaid IMO He is one of the unreplaceable players on the team, This teams record in games without him is rough, There's risk, every contract has risk, but paying a true team player like him is not a bad move to me, Do you actually think he would have signed for 5 years and left 2-3 on the table. He and the team both know by the end of this contract he likely will be declining, hence why the cap hit fell where it did. If we had an up and coming potential shutdown center maybe this would be different but with where the team sits, he is the cornerstone of this team.
- GPerogie

No one player is non-replaceable. The Oilers traded the greatest player and won a cup 19 months later without him.

You also gloss over the fact that you compared his contract to a younger defenseman.

I do not think this team is anywhere near a cup contender, and it is possible that trading him at the 2022 TDL may be more beneficial than signing him to this extension. Time will only tell, but dollars to donuts year 6,7, and 8 will be a strain on the Flyers cap situation,

2022-23: $1.75MM salary + $6.0MM signing bonus
2023-24: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2024-25: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2025-26: $4.0MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2026-27: $1.75MM salary + $6.0MM signing bonus
2027-28: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2028-29: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus
2029-30: $1.5MM salary + $5.0MM signing bonus

Full NMC first 7 years, mNTC year 7. So untraceable and buyout proof. This deal is going to hurt so much for the final 3 years.
- wreckage

UNPOSSIBLE -- WHat will the FLyers do without him?!?!?!

"Alright so you let him walk........Free agency......Or maybe trade him at the deadline for assets, How do you replace him exactly? Is Hayes going to thrive more with the extra time and responsibility? Yes you are paying for past performance, You are paying for the potential of many years of future performance as well, last few years may be scary, maybe he'll be relied on in a D roll by than similar to Clarke's later days. Do you really just let him walk being you feel he's now overpaid IMO He is one of the unreplaceable players on the team, This teams record in games without him is rough, There's risk, every contract has risk, but paying a true team player like him is not a bad move to me, Do you actually think he would have signed for 5 years and left 2-3 on the table. He and the team both know by the end of this contract he likely will be declining, hence why the cap hit fell where it did. If we had an up and coming potential shutdown center maybe this would be different but with where the team sits, he is the cornerstone of this team."

- GPerogie

So paying for past performance is a no no. Paying a team player who seems to hustle on every shift, play both sides of the puck, is respected in the locker room, doesn’t have the Mike Richards Evander Kane type of baggage, who wants to be in Philly less than he could have got on the open market is bad? Clearly teams have franchise players they have faith in and moving pieces to build around….I for one am fine with couts as a pillar for this team. Years 5-6-7 might be on his decline but that’s the cost of keeping the cap hit down in a flat era. Jones comparison is to the salary. D and f both count the same against the cap last I checked. If anything couts had more leverage than Jones in contract negotiations

Looks like Giroux might be a goner after the season if not at the trade deadline(if they are out of contention at that time). My worry about Couturier is durability. Seems like he is always dealing with some kind of nagging injury that slows him down some(even though he still plays). He doesn't need that cause he ain't exactly a speed skater. His hockey IQ allows him to make up for his lack of speed, but as he ages that may become more of a concern.
- Phillywhiteout

What information is there that Giroux won't be re-signed?

If year five is the cut-off, then why sign him for three extra years? I don't hate this deal, nor do I like it. It is what it is, but it pays for previous performance; no one told him to sign a 6-year deal for 4M and change years ago. He took security over a future pay day - it is not the Flyer's responsibility to make up the fact that he outperformed the contract.
- corduroy

It's a trade off. If you want him to sign a 5 year deal then the AAV goes up. Significantly. Couturier is instrumental to any chance this team has to win the Cup. You hope for 6 really good years, 1 decent year and perhaps one "on his way out" year. If you get that, it's a great deal. Getting Couturier for an AAV under 8 is a steal.

It's a trade off. If you want him to sign a 5 year deal then the AAV goes up. Significantly. Couturier is instrumental to any chance this team has to win the Cup. You hope for 6 really good years, 1 decent year and perhaps one "on his way out" year. If you get that, it's a great deal. Getting Couturier for an AAV under 8 is a steal.
- MJL

Absolutely.

jjj

Any NMC or NTC?
- hello it's me 2050

Right out of gate a truly Moronic question!!

Can't you read Rinaldo?>

Wow under contract for 9 more years till age 38....This contract isnt going to age well at all...He didnt take a discount he just got his salary spread over a longer period of time by giving him 8 yrs on top of his 1 remaining year...With a couple of knee injuries in the past and having limited speed to start with back half of this contract gonna be a killer.
- hfc355

Oh sh!!!t here we go with Morons looking into future!!

I gotta get outta here too phucking stupid already!!

This is a direct consequence from the hard cap bull**** the NHL has implemented, teams today sign those players to max term deals in the expectation that the cap will keep going up every year and make the contract look more palatable in the future. If teams were allowed to go over the cap and pay some sort of luxury tax, they would be able throw the money on short term deals that would give them the flexibility to turn the ship around if things don't work out.

the league needs to do a better job in the next CBA negotiations to protect the team front offices from those long term contracts. Not just to protect the GMs from their own stupidity but also from the predatory nature of players agents looking to maximize their earnings. They should do like the NBA and restrict to 4 years deals, 5 if you stay with the same team. It would make off seasons more entertaining as well with more star players moving in and out.
- AK27

This. Hard cap ruined the game.

What tag is Rinaldo using these days?
- SuperSchennBros

hello im a d!ckhead2020

I'm interested in a bigger prize.
- MJL

What a dumb comment!!
Aren't we all?
But to get there it is a step by step process.
I realize that no one can build a team that fits what in your head so why don't you pick a new team and go on their board and whine about every phucking move...
You're ponderous!

It's a trade off. If you want him to sign a 5 year deal then the AAV goes up. Significantly. Couturier is instrumental to any chance this team has to win the Cup. You hope for 6 really good years, 1 decent year and perhaps one "on his way out" year. If you get that, it's a great deal. Getting Couturier for an AAV under 8 is a steal.
- MJL

I am not arguing anything that you said -- my contention was the posters response to my post on his original response on the signing -- nothing more - nothing less