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Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:50 PM ET
Karlsson was going to be a ufa Eichel is under contract, Adams is in no way in a position where he has to deal Eichel now.
If Ottawa doesn’t deal EK he walks for nothing, if Adams does deal Eichel, we just have to hear about him for another year.

- Sabres1523


Oh yes, I agree with you on the expiring contract as EK had one year left, but again, the health of Eichel lowers his value plus the fact it's no secret he wants out. All of that doesn't put Buffalo in a position of strength when dealing the asset.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Oh yes, I agree with you on the expiring contract as EK had one year left, but again, the health of Eichel lowers his value plus the fact it's no secret he wants out. All of that doesn't put Buffalo in a position of strength when dealing the asset.
- Kevin Francis

And his NTC kicks in July 1st of next year!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
I'm not sure White has too much value given his contract, and his recent play. Buffalo is going to have a ton of cap space. I like White just fine, but he's not going to have much to play with there.

Buffalo may press for Pinto.

Also important to consider that Brannstrom is a LHD, and so are Dahlin and Power. May not be an issue as Power wont be there this year, and he could switch sides.

It sure would be nice to See Ottawa leverage a team with low bargaining position for a change though.

- david22



Yes so true on your last point.
With regards to Brannstrom, here is a good article talking about what side he likes to play vs. what the coaching staff wants.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...prospect-erik-brannstrom/
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Just in case I haven't made my position on the matter clear enough - even if Buffalo offered us Eichel for free I still wouldn't take him. That guy is poison.
- Whatisavailable



Many fans feel the way you do and understandably so from the stories you hear that leak out about him.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
I hear you on this, but it really is chicken and egg. They should get Brady on the phone with Eichel behind the scenes. Problem with adding a 10M player on this team is the highest contract value plays a big role in dictating how other teammates approach their own new contracts. You can see that slippery slope working in Toronto right now, and Ottawa doesn't have the benefit of a massive homer player base where solid vets will sign league min deals to play here. I think that Bobby Ryan's contract and buyer's remorse from our owner influenced how we lost Mark Stone, Mika Zibanejad, and Anthony Duclair, all of whom would look great if still on this team. Tkachuks are famous for being pests to play against, but also at getting paid (Matthew's RFA QO next year, Keith's whole career) - add a 10M contract, I think we watch Tkachuk hold out into the season for more.
- Bartacus


Get Buffalo to eat part of the contract plus if you move White you are unloading almost 5 million per year too. So that 10 million doesnt look so bad.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 6:57 PM ET
Stay away from Eichel. Tkachuk and Chabot are the future of this team. The chemistry of this team is fantastic. I love watching them play even when they're losing. They are building something special and they're not going to be losing for much longer.

They do not need to be betrayed by those spoiled brats throwing a tantrum on the floor of Walmart screaming "Wah Wah Wah we want it now. Eichel will make it happen now!".

Look at what happened in Edmonton when they brought in Chiarell and he decided to trade away their future for a couple of playoff rounds. They should have already won a Cup and be challenging for more. Instead they will never win a Cup but they will get a playoff round now and again.

Please don't let this happen in Ottawa.

- Whatisavailable


You make a great argument when referencing the Oilers situation. But it boils down to if management wants Eichel due to Brady and showing the winning commitment.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 27 @ 7:26 PM ET
He has played both sides, he actually prefers to play the right side but the coaching staff has used him on the LD more.
- Kevin Francis

thanks
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Aug 27 @ 7:38 PM ET
Brannstrom doesn't need to be stuck behind Dahlin and Power. The one thing Buffalo has is LHD.
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Aug 27 @ 7:38 PM ET
Brannstrom doesn't need to be stuck behind Dahlin and Power. The one thing Buffalo has is LHD.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 7:49 PM ET
Brannstrom doesn't need to be stuck behind Dahlin and Power. The one thing Buffalo has is LHD.
- DarthProbert


https://www.sportsnet.ca/...prospect-erik-brannstrom/
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Aug 27 @ 8:21 PM ET
Eichel would be an ideal acquisition. An elite centreman is almost essential for success. As much as the Sens lack such a player or prospect, a deal between the Sens and Sabres seems unlikely. Some names being thrown around, such as Norris, are impractical from the Sabres perspective, they have no interest in third liners. Eichel is rated as an elite centre, and young elite centres do not come cheap.

Despite the injury, a prospective Eichel deal will require a huge ticket. As a minimum the package will include a highly talented youngish player, a top prospect and a high pick. Someone will pay this price. Examples of possible packages might be Stutzle, Sanderson and a first, or Tkachuk, Pinto and a first. These are the variety of offers Buffalo will entertain. I cannot see Dorion risking a trade of this magnitude, and many fans would be disgruntled.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Aug 27 @ 8:24 PM ET
Eichel would be an ideal acquisition. An elite centreman is almost essential for success. As much as the Sens lack such a player or prospect, a deal between the Sens and Sabres seems unlikely. Some names being thrown around, such as Norris, are impractical from the Sabres perspective, they have no interest in third liners. Eichel is rated as an elite centre, and young elite centres do not come cheap.

Despite the injury, a prospective Eichel deal will require a huge ticket. As a minimum the package will include a highly talented youngish player, a top prospect and a high pick. Someone will pay this price. Examples of possible packages might be Stutzle, Sanderson and a first, or Tkachuk, Pinto and a first. These are the variety of offers Buffalo will entertain. I cannot see Dorion risking a trade of this magnitude, and many fans would be disgruntled.

- Jackie Daytona


IDK what drugs your taking but you need to stop.
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Aug 27 @ 8:33 PM ET
IDK what drugs your taking but you need to stop.
- Mithos



I'm just saying what the cost will be. Drugs or no drugs, one of the other 31 GMs will pay the price. Fringe talent like Norris, Chabot and a handful of spark plugs or dominos will not be enough to attract Buffalo's attention.
PuckPix
Joined: 01.12.2021

Aug 27 @ 8:37 PM ET
I'm just saying what the cost will be. Drugs or no drugs, one of the other 31 GMs will pay the price. Fringe talent like Norris, Chabot and a handful of spark plugs or dominos will not be enough to attract Buffalo's attention.
- Jackie Daytona


Are you well? Like the Sens are going to trade guys they want Eichel to play with in Ottawa. Norris and Chabot fringe talent, are you well? Norris one season in the NHL and you know what his ceiling is? Can I have more of what you are smoking?
Panzer_IVA
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.02.2018

Aug 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
Appreciate the kind words and thanks for always stopping by! I put a lot of time into it, truly enjoy it.
- Kevin Francis

I think it shows, too - in a good way. Keep it up!
Crosside
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 08.14.2019

Aug 27 @ 9:04 PM ET
I'm just saying what the cost will be. Drugs or no drugs, one of the other 31 GMs will pay the price. Fringe talent like Norris, Chabot and a handful of spark plugs or dominos will not be enough to attract Buffalo's attention.
- Jackie Daytona

If other GM would want to pay the price. Eichel would have be already trade
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 27 @ 9:05 PM ET
I am nervous about a deal to acquire Eichel.

It is not rooted in any insight or knowledge from a hockey perspective.

Just a feeling, a general foreboding that it is something that will not work out.

I would feel far more positive about dealing for Dvorack or Monaghan
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
Are you well? Like the Sens are going to trade guys they want Eichel to play with in Ottawa. Norris and Chabot fringe talent, are you well? Norris one season in the NHL and you know what his ceiling is? Can I have more of what you are smoking?
- PuckPix


This person clearly hasn't watched alot of Sens hockey to think this, but again, we are allowed to have our opinion.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
I think it shows, too - in a good way. Keep it up!
- Panzer_IVA


Thanks so much, appreciate it!
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
If other GM would want to pay the price. Eichel would have be already trade
- Crosside


Excatly that is just it. No harm in starting with a high asking price, but we always hear this when it comes to top players, teams ask for the moon then eventually asking price comes down when they realize NO GM will pay their price. There is a reason nobody is biting.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 9:43 PM ET
I am nervous about a deal to acquire Eichel.

It is not rooted in any insight or knowledge from a hockey perspective.

Just a feeling, a general foreboding that it is something that will not work out.

I would feel far more positive about dealing for Dvorack or Monaghan

- spatso


Naturally you would have to give up less for either player, but you aren't getting what this team needs. Monahan's production has dropped off alot the last 2 years. Not sold him plus only 2 years left on his deal.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Aug 27 @ 10:51 PM ET
As a minimum the package will include a highly talented youngish player, a top prospect and a high pick. Someone will pay this price. Examples of possible packages might be Stutzle, Sanderson and a first, or Tkachuk, Pinto and a first. These are the variety of offers Buffalo will entertain.
- Jackie Daytona

Reminds me of when TB was going to send over Point and Sergachev for Karlsson. None of those players are going to be involved.. just like Zegras & Drysdale are a hard no from the Ducks, Lafreniere is a hard no from the Rangers, and Byfield & Clarke are a hard no from the Kings.

Personally, I'd be surprised if the Sabres get a better offer than Brannstrom, White, Jarventie, 1st, 2nd.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 27 @ 11:44 PM ET
Reminds me of when TB was going to send over Point and Sergachev for Karlsson. None of those players are going to be involved.. just like Zegras & Drysdale are a hard no from the Ducks, Lafreniere is a hard no from the Rangers, and Byfield & Clarke are a hard no from the Kings.

Personally, I'd be surprised if the Sabres get a better offer than Brannstrom, White, Jarventie, 1st, 2nd.

- khawk


I couldn't agree with you more. I keep saying it, every team knows Buffalo has unload him, Eichel wants out, he needs surgery too, his NTC kicks in July 1st, 2022. They aren't dealing from a position strength, end of story!
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 28 @ 1:27 AM ET
Kevin Francis: Ottawa linked to Jack Eichel/Leafs looking to get involved with Marner!
- Kevin Francis


Good blog - I do think that the Eichel to Sens is more likely than a Marner for Dahlin deal. I really believe the Leafs would be able to squeeze more out of Buffalo than Dahlin just my opinion.
Kevin Francis
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 07.21.2021

Aug 28 @ 2:05 AM ET
Good blog - I do think that the Eichel to Sens is more likely than a Marner for Dahlin deal. I really believe the Leafs would be able to squeeze more out of Buffalo than Dahlin just my opinion.
- winsix


With regards to the Leafs, ridding themselves of that contract is truly beginning to be such a priority that I am not so sure they would care if it was only Dahlin!

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