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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:22 PM ET
10 .3 is a huge problem for me. I like the kid but I am not at that salary yet.
- VANTEL


It would have to be the full 8 for me at that big a number. If I was a team that really wanted to get him, I’d make the number BIG, AND take him exactly to UFA status. That would be the biggest risk for which ever team ended up with him (the team that signed him or the Canucks). I’m not sure, would that be a 4 year deal? 4 years, $41,107,316 - the compensation would be 2 first, 1 second and 1 third and he would be a UFA at the end.

That would be a nasty offer sheet.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 30 @ 10:22 PM ET
You do any irrigation systems? Got an issue, could use some advice.
- 1970vintage


Have a decent amount of experience, mostly repair.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:27 PM ET
Have a decent amount of experience, mostly repair.
- Load Management


Underground pvc. It’s from the main waterline so it’s under pressure. The T junction cracked (winter freeze maybe). One line goes down hill to a set of valves for the lower property, the other line goes uphill for the top portion. I’ve tried three times now, can’t get it to work. The problem is that because it’s a T, and it’s buried, I can’t get the last piece in. The line is too long to get into the connector.

I’d dig up more area around it to make it more bendy, but there are a ton of mature plants (and roots) making it tough.

Any tricks? Or a different kind of fitting that would be easier?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:28 PM ET
It would have to be the full 8 for me at that big a number. If I was a team that really wanted to get him, I’d make the number BIG, AND take him exactly to UFA status. That would be the biggest risk for which ever team ended up with him (the team that signed him or the Canucks). I’m not sure, would that be a 4 year deal? 4 years, $41,107,316 - the compensation would be 2 first, 1 second and 1 third and he would be a UFA at the end.

That would be a nasty offer sheet.

- 1970vintage


It is only fans speculating but it is Bergevin who is a wildman.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
Underground pvc. It’s from the main waterline so it’s under pressure. The T junction cracked (winter freeze maybe). One line goes down hill to a set of valves for the lower property, the other line goes uphill for the top portion. I’ve tried three times now, can’t get it to work. The problem is that because it’s a T, and it’s buried, I can’t get the last piece in. The line is too long to get into the connector.

I’d dig up more area around it to make it more bendy, but there are a ton of mature plants (and roots) making it tough.

Any tricks? Or a different kind of fitting that would be easier?

- 1970vintage


If I'm reading this right the main line is too long for the junction and it's PVC. Just grab a dremel with a cutting wheel and cut it to fit. Does it align with the T?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
Underground pvc. It’s from the main waterline so it’s under pressure. The T junction cracked (winter freeze maybe). One line goes down hill to a set of valves for the lower property, the other line goes uphill for the top portion. I’ve tried three times now, can’t get it to work. The problem is that because it’s a T, and it’s buried, I can’t get the last piece in. The line is too long to get into the connector.

I’d dig up more area around it to make it more bendy, but there are a ton of mature plants (and roots) making it tough.

Any tricks? Or a different kind of fitting that would be easier?

- 1970vintage



I know nothing about irrigation but will guess hacksaw PVC to size ?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:44 PM ET
If I'm reading this right the main line is too long for the junction and it's PVC. Just grab a dremel with a cutting wheel and cut it to fit. Does it align with the T?
- Load Management


The problem is that because it’s a T and the line fits 1” inside connectors everything is too long and I can’t get the last piece together. It overlaps and I can’t bend anything enough to get it together.

I’m going to try a connector that has collars that slide back, if I can find one.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 30 @ 10:59 PM ET


I know nothing about irrigation but will guess hacksaw PVC to size ?

- VANTEL


I wish it were that simple. The pipe fits inside the connectors. I’ve got a three way reference to help you understand but I feel like I’d get banned if I explained it…
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 30 @ 11:05 PM ET
The problem is that because it’s a T and the line fits 1” inside connectors everything is too long and I can’t get the last piece together. It overlaps and I can’t bend anything enough to get it together.

I’m going to try a connector that has collars that slide back, if I can find one.

- 1970vintage


Approximately how much overlap? You can always cut a bit off of each side so it slides on. The pipe doesn't have to go all the way into the T. As long as there's enough for the PVC glue to bond and it's snug.

You can also use a coupler if you want to cut one line a little further up and stick the three ends into the T. Couple it back up after the T is set and you've taken the length you've needed out of the line.

Hope this makes sense.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:09 PM ET
I wish it were that simple. The pipe fits inside the connectors. I’ve got a three way reference to help you understand but I feel like I’d get banned if I explained it…
- 1970vintage


Like I said I don't know irrigation at all but have puttered around with regular plumbing .

Figuring it out in my head I would buy a new T and cut back the PVC and buy something like this for all three sides of the PVC if the cost of the new piping is not too expensive.


If that is two feet? just cut back and put in new T ? Again just guessing
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 30 @ 11:33 PM ET
This is the closest I could find to explain the coupling. If you can get two ends in you only need to couple once. Like the single line on the left going into this T. You can shorten it as needed before and after the coupler.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 30 @ 11:46 PM ET
This is the closest I could find to explain the coupling. If you can get two ends in you only need to couple once. Like the single line on the left going into this T. You can shorten it as needed before and after the coupler.


- Load Management


Wonder if a Y and a couple 45s would work for him.
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
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Aug 31 @ 12:00 AM ET
Wonder if a Y and a couple 45s would work for him.
- Reubenkincade


If he's got 2 in the T and needs to bend one a bit because it's not aligned, then maybe a 22.5? I don't think the Y is going to do anything but add more work.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 31 @ 12:02 AM ET
Like I said I don't know irrigation at all but have puttered around with regular plumbing .

Figuring it out in my head I would buy a new T and cut back the PVC and buy something like this for all three sides of the PVC if the cost of the new piping is not too expensive.


If that is two feet? just cut back and put in new T ? Again just guessing

- VANTEL


Thats a shop vac hose...
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 31 @ 12:03 AM ET
Thats a shop vac hose...

- boonerbuck

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 12:06 AM ET
Thats a shop vac hose...

- boonerbuck



The idea was buy PVC as I said cut it back with new fittings (couplers ) and put in a new T Joint.

But yeah it is a shop vac . I typed in Irrigation gifs and that came up
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 31 @ 12:21 AM ET
The idea was buy PVC as I said cut it back with new fittings (couplers ) and put in a new T Joint.

But yeah it is a shop vac . I typed in Irrigation gifs and that came up

- VANTEL



That hose sucks (get it?).
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 12:26 AM ET
That hose sucks (get it?).
- boonerbuck



Is this better >

https://www.amazon.ca/Red...&pd_rd_i=B004XQYK76&psc=1


Sh1tter hose might be better
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 31 @ 12:29 AM ET
This is the closest I could find to explain the coupling. If you can get two ends in you only need to couple once. Like the single line on the left going into this T. You can shorten it as needed before and after the coupler.


- Load Management


Yeah, something like that might work, if it would hold pressure.

Thanks for thinking, hope no brain cells were damaged in the process
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Aug 31 @ 12:45 AM ET
Yeah, something like that might work, if it would hold pressure.

Thanks for thinking, hope no brain cells were damaged in the process

- 1970vintage


It will hold pressure. Just don't use the rubber style thingy on the top of the pic with the pipe clamps. That'll blow. But the PVC couplers once properly glued should hold more pressure than the pipe.

I've got plenty of brain cells to spare.😉

Edit: If you need more help or further explanation take a picture and I can DM you my email to send it to. It would be easier if I saw what you are working with.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 31 @ 12:52 AM ET
It would have to be the full 8 for me at that big a number. If I was a team that really wanted to get him, I’d make the number BIG, AND take him exactly to UFA status. That would be the biggest risk for which ever team ended up with him (the team that signed him or the Canucks). I’m not sure, would that be a 4 year deal? 4 years, $41,107,316 - the compensation would be 2 first, 1 second and 1 third and he would be a UFA at the end.

That would be a nasty offer sheet.

- 1970vintage


I'd let Petey go and then trade Boeser, JTM, Bo and QH at the deadline/end of the season and tank next season for Bedard and the next OV and use all the picks, prospects to make sure I get them... Of course in this scenario, JB, TG and the rest are long gone.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 1:00 AM ET
I'd let Petey go and then trade Boeser, JTM, Bo and QH at the deadline/end of the season and tank next season for Bedard and the next OV and use all the picks, prospects to make sure I get them... Of course in this scenario, JB, TG and the rest are long gone.
- DariusKnight

A 7 year rebuild. Genius man
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 31 @ 1:10 AM ET
I'd let Petey go and then trade Boeser, JTM, Bo and QH at the deadline/end of the season and tank next season for Bedard and the next OV and use all the picks, prospects to make sure I get them... Of course in this scenario, JB, TG and the rest are long gone.
- DariusKnight


A teardown and rebuild when this team has finally got quality young depth in all positions... because of an offer sheet to 1 player.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Aug 31 @ 1:50 AM ET
Thanks Carol

I kinda like nice HB..

YouTube can be helpful too, Just a quick search with your criteria, ( irrigation systems line is too long to get into the connector.) With specifics you might get some extra help.

https://www.youtube.com/r...to+get+into+the+connector.



DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 31 @ 3:08 AM ET
A teardown and rebuild when this team has finally got quality young depth in all positions... because of an offer sheet to 1 player.

- boonerbuck


I debate the 'quality' of depth, but my point is, with an OS to Petey, you have to ask yourself if you can build around him or end up stagnating like TML with their Big 4. If it's going to prevent the team from being able to sign Boeser, Hoglander, et. al, then maybe you move on from Petey, realize that you have an opportunity to get that McDavid or Crosby-lite generational talent in Bedard and start over. Tying up your cap to match an offer sheet that's designed to screw you over is bad business... Then again, this is JB we're talking about and probably will sign Petey for whatever the theoretical OS might have been anyways.
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