Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Looking at the Kotkaniemi offer sheet through an Elias Pettersson lens
Author Message
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:29 AM ET
I just read minutes ago Ott wants to do a bridge deal with Tkachuk 3 x 3 . I doubt they will offer Petey 10 mil +.

Unreliable source, but wild if true.

- VANTEL


Brady is worth what Svechnikov got. A much better player than his brother, who got 7 million.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:31 AM ET
Brady is worth what Svechnikov got. A much better player than his brother, who got 7 million.
- Reubenkincade


I agree but if it is true Ottawa are either mad or mad genius
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:32 AM ET
I get that and would gladly take their first round pick for the next four years but I would still force them to overpay on their RFAs for the next 10 years.
- VANTEL


It would make for an interesting decade of offer-sheets
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:33 AM ET
I agree but if it is true Ottawa are either mad or mad genius
- VANTEL


3 million is a slap in the face. The kid, in my opinion, is a top 50 in the league.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
Not probably, he literally said he would. No team in the league has the balls nor the means to OS Petey over 10 mil, 0 chance he leaves Van.
- NorthNuck

...and Edler will retire as a lifelong Canuck.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:36 AM ET
It would make for an interesting decade of offer-sheets
- Reubenkincade


It is hard not to enjoy the chaos
Nucknab23
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.13.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:38 AM ET
I gotta say plumbingbuzz has been a great respite to the dog days of the summer off-season!! Amazing how everyone snipes at each other daily but one guy has irrigation issues and everyone jumps to help this is great!!!!!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 11:38 AM ET
An interesting tidbit on the Kotkaniemi signing

Puck Pedia: Next offseason either the Carolina Hurricanes or Montreal Canadiens could file for Club Elected salary arbitration for Kotkaniemi and request 85 percent of his current salary. That would come in at $5.185 million. They would retain his rights and wouldn’t have to send him a $6.1 million qualifying offer.

- Reubenkincade

That would never happen.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
...and Edler will retire as a lifelong Canuck.
- Marwood

In what scenario do you envision Petey leaving Van? I don't know of a single team that both has the cap space and is willing to part with 4 1sts. Anything below that and JB will match.

An OS for Petey that stands any chance of pulling him out of Van ain't happening, the reason everyone is talking about it is because there's been very little news for weeks and the media is getting everyone keyed up over nothing.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
What scenario do you envision Petey leaving Van? I don't know of a single team that both has the cap space and is willing to part with 4 1sts. Anything below that and JB will match.

An OS for Petey that stands any chance of pulling him out of Van ain't happening, the reason everyone is talking about it is because there's been very little news and the media is getting everyone keyed up over nothing.

- NorthNuck

How much did you hear about the KK offer sheet before it happened?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
That would never happen.
- CanuckDon


Freidman thinks this is just a move to steal KK and an immediate extension at a reasonable hit is already in place.

I guess KK had hurt feelings about being a healthy scratch in the playoffs .
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
How much did you hear about the KK offer sheet before it happened?
- Marwood

You're deflecting, try to come up with any realistic scenario in which Pettersson is no longer a Canuck.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
You're deflecting, try to come up with any realistic scenario in which Pettersson is no longer a Canuck.
- NorthNuck

He wants to win.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 11:47 AM ET
He wants to win.
- Marwood

Okay so you have no argument, good talk.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 31 @ 11:47 AM ET
Not probably, he literally said he would. No team in the league has the balls nor the means to OS Petey over 10 mil, 0 chance he leaves Van.
- NorthNuck


I was trolling mostly, but yeah, unless someone offers Petey 15m x 8, and no one would be dumb enough to do that or have the capspace to do that, he isn't going to sign an OS from someone.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 31 @ 12:02 PM ET
Connor Murphy extended 4 x 4.4 in Chi
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
Not according to Bonnie.
https://youtu.be/-CefaYs_pFs

- Shuswap Wap


Good grief, here we go again…
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
Good grief, here we go again…
- bloatedmosquito

Maybe if we ignore it, it will go away?
Ball Bag
Seattle Kraken
Location: WA
Joined: 01.30.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:44 PM ET
I gotta say plumbingbuzz has been a great respite to the dog days of the summer off-season!! Amazing how everyone snipes at each other daily but one guy has irrigation issues and everyone jumps to help this is great!!!!!
- Nucknab23


Led by the thread cop of course!
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 31 @ 1:05 PM ET
Good grief, here we go again…
- bloatedmosquito

Are you disagreeing with our health Officer?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 1:09 PM ET
Are you disagreeing with our health Officer?
- Shuswap Wap

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 31 @ 1:22 PM ET
I was trolling mostly, but yeah, unless someone offers Petey 15m x 8, and no one would be dumb enough to do that or have the capspace to do that, he isn't going to sign an OS from someone.
- DariusKnight


Not true. I laid out a scenario where a team could force the Canucks to either match a very risky deal or take 2 firsts a second and a third as compensation.

It would also be risky for the team offering that contract, as he would be a UFA when it expired, but they would have the ability to negotiate a new deal in the final year of the offer sheet.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 31 @ 1:32 PM ET
Not true. I laid out a scenario where a team could force the Canucks to either match a very risky deal or take 2 firsts a second and a third as compensation.

It would also be risky for the team offering that contract, as he would be a UFA when it expired, but they would have the ability to negotiate a new deal in the final year of the offer sheet.

- 1970vintage

We all know JB matches in that situation though, he is real big on kicking the can down the road.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 31 @ 1:38 PM ET
We all know JB matches in that situation though, he is real big on kicking the can down the road.
- NorthNuck


I agree he would match $10.2 x 4.

Risk would be the team doesn’t compete as he had hoped and Petey walks (though he could be traded). Benefit is they could negotiate a long term deal in the final year.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 1:38 PM ET
We all know JB matches in that situation though, he is real big on kicking the can down the road.
- NorthNuck

Aquilini matches, Sedins match, Benning match’s. The whole org does. They aren’t starting a new rebuild ffs
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next