5 is a tough option. It only buys 1 year of UFA. I wouldn't put that on the table, personally.

I'd consider Joker at the right AAV, but likely end up bridging all 3.
- Lunaion

I would not bridge Dahlin.

There is absolutely no downside risk to signing him long term. Seth Jones just proved that.

I'm probably moving olo for a future 1st and a goaltending prospect at the deadline or offseason.

If he scores 20- 25 goals without eichel or a true #1 c, and likes buffalo... I give him the matt moulson special 5 x 5.

His age vs. Tank4 could really be the deciding factor.

We will need to spend some cash to get to the cap floor the next few seasons.

Hate to finally hit on a late round pick and not reap the benefits.....

Uncle ion may disagree, but I think olo's skating is very under appreciated. He has good speed and vision IMO.
The nhl is a growing process.

78 points in 116 nhl games is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine not liking him? Anti Sabres gonna anti sabre I guess.
- Boss34

Facts
-Olo is a veteran with six (6) years of professional play.
-he paces at 0.67 ppg while getting 1st line duties and 1st PP time
-34 of his 78 points (44%) in the NHL come on the PP
-he gets 69% Ozone starts and maintains only 56% CF
-he really contributes with a total of 29 hits in 116 games...WTF does he do when not on the PP?

If there was ever a player who sucksoff Jack, it is Olo.
Imagine wanting him over Sam! Lol.

I would not bridge Dahlin.

There is absolutely no downside risk to signing him long term. Seth Jones just proved that.
- Pegullaville

You don't see any risk in an 8x8.5m deal? He just hasn't been that good, IMO.

I don't see him coming in much cheaper than Heiskanen, if at all.

You don't see any risk in an 8x8.5m deal? He just hasn't been that good, IMO.

I don't see him coming in much cheaper than Heiskanen, if at all.
- Lunaion

If someone is willing to trade for Seth Jones and give him that contract, someone will trade for Dahlin whom worst case scenario is Morgan Reilly.

I'll make it clear for you since you're having difficulty understanding.

1. You may have been the only person who thought planning on having UPL start some games for the Sabres last year when they were trying to win was a good idea and plan. It was not. Fail.

2. After the 2018-2019 season where Ullmark had a 905 save percentage (convenient that you left that out, but hardly a surprise), I would've been trying to see if he would sign a 4 year deal at $2M to $2.5M per, banking on his continued development.

3. After the 2019-2020 season, I would've been attempting again to try and sign Ullmark to a 4 year deal, this time for $3M to $4M per, again banking on his continued development.

4. If he said yes to the deal after 18-19 or 19-20, I would've done everything possible to bring in another starter level goaltender to split starts with Ullmark, and waived Hutton.

5. If Ullmark said no to the deal after the 18-19 and 19-20 deals offered, I would've brought in 2 starter level goaltenders to split starts, traded Ullmark, and waived Hutton.

They were trying to be a winning, playoff team last offseason, and the goaltending was an embarrassment.

It was clearly an embarrassment during last offseason, and when the season began.

Only the Sabres seemed to fail to see that, which is not a surprise considering their track record.

You also seem to have failed to see the goaltending being a big issue considering you were expecting UPL to be making spot starts.

I've never been a huge fan of Ullmark, but he's a competent NHL goaltender.

You either invest in him or you move him.

You don't nickel and dime it until you lose him for nothing, but I guess that's what a team with virtually zero long term plan does.
- kingcong39

Seriously the goaltending could have been better but let’s not forget the team as a whole was a bag of sh!t led by many overpaid pansies.

If someone is willing to trade for Seth Jones and give him that contract, someone will trade for Dahlin whom worst case scenario is Morgan Reilly.
- Pegullaville

Hell, he could be terrible for the next 5 years and someone will give us a 1st, 2nd and D man back

Yesterday in Lockport,
Lockport, Wezeeanna that is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7HfJd_IkjA
Imagine sitting through that storm.

If someone is willing to trade for Seth Jones and give him that contract, someone will trade for Dahlin whom worst case scenario is Morgan Reilly.
- Pegullaville

Oh yes!!! A few Sabres fans came to discuss Eichel with Ottawa fans today.....great job!

I never post here but my parents lived close to Eichel in WNY and have "heard" (this could be neighborhood gossip) that Jack has a drinking problem, has been in and out of rehab, and that is one of the issues in this whole situation.

I never post here but my parents lived close to Eichel in WNY and have "heard" (this could be neighborhood gossip) that Jack has a drinking problem, has been in and out of rehab, and that is one of the issues in this whole situation.
- SabresFan68

Sadly this coincides with several first hand accounts.

I never post here but my parents lived close to Eichel in WNY and have "heard" (this could be neighborhood gossip) that Jack has a drinking problem, has been in and out of rehab, and that is one of the issues in this whole situation.
- SabresFan68

If he has a drinking problem and can play the fastest game on earth better than 99% of the best players in the world let’s find out what he’s drinking.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284428823290

This could be interesting Homie.

You don't see any risk in an 8x8.5m deal? He just hasn't been that good, IMO.

I don't see him coming in much cheaper than Heiskanen, if at all.
- Lunaion

Evolving Hockey has Dahlin's predicted next deal at $6M per for 6 years.

Evolving Hockey has Dahlin's predicted next deal at $6M per for 6 years.
- kingcong39

That's a fair deal. I think the market is dictating more though.

That's a fair deal. I think the market is dictating more though.
- Lunaion

He's not worth more let alone 6 mill a year.

He's not worth more let alone 6 mill a year.
- SABRES 89

That's why I think they end up bridging him. If they go long term, it's going to be expensive. The market is well established.

If he has a drinking problem and can play the fastest game on earth better than 99% of the best players in the world let’s find out what he’s drinking.
- Camel

If he has a drinking problem and can play the fastest game on earth better than 99% of the best players in the world let’s find out what he’s drinking.
- Camel

Same thing lehner was drinking apparently. Because although he wasn’t awesome think about how good he was considering he was half in the bag.

Same thing lehner was drinking apparently. Because although he wasn’t awesome think about how good he was considering he was half in the bag.
- IndianaSabresFan

I thought he had a serious coke issue, now I learn it is alcohol as well.

I thought he had a serious coke issue, now I learn it is alcohol as well.
- IonSabres

bizzare to me how someone who cares so much about his own conditioning and his own performance could have a drug and alcohol problem.

bizzare to me how someone who cares so much about his own conditioning and his own performance could have a drug and alcohol problem.
- TheSabresTaco

Same reasons any other people have drug/alcohol problems: substances help people cope with stress when it seems like nothing else will, he was very young and very rich at the same time, his peer group had older members who were substance abusers, he was living as a teen hundreds of miles from his family, he was playing on an awful team in a city with abundant alcohol abuse. Wrap all that up and it takes someone of very strong character to stay clean.

Having a powdery nose or a drinking problem are the least of the things I can blame Jack for. Cocaine has been an issue in NHL locker rooms since the late 1990s. Alcohol is an issue for every family in America and Canada at some point I imagine. Unless there are some specific outrageous allegations against Jack I can't see how he's done anymore drinking than hundreds of NHLers have done in Buffalo.

bizzare to me how someone who cares so much about his own conditioning and his own performance could have a drug and alcohol problem.
- TheSabresTaco

Comes down to functionality.


Some people are functioning alcoholics/drug users. See the restaurant/construction industry, law enforcement/firefighters too.

I’d imagine there are people in all walks of life that fits that profile.

Most are not and are just weekend warriors, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Same reasons any other people have drug/alcohol problems: substances help people cope with stress when it seems like nothing else will, he was very young and very rich at the same time, his peer group had older members who were substance abusers, he was living as a teen hundreds of miles from his family, he was playing on an awful team in a city with abundant alcohol abuse. Wrap all that up and it takes someone of very strong character to stay clean.

Having a powdery nose or a drinking problem are the least of the things I can blame Jack for. Cocaine has been an issue in NHL locker rooms since the 1970s. Alcohol is an issue for every family in America and Canada at some point I imagine. Unless there are some specific outrageous allegations against Jack I can't see how he's done anymore drinking than hundreds of NHLers have done in Buffalo.
- lacaprup

Fixed……

Fixed……
- dadeadhead

That's probably correct. I don't know any stories from back then, but I don't doubt it at all. Coke and NHL are like peas and carrots.

That's probably correct. I don't know any stories from back then, but I don't doubt it at all. Coke and NHL are like peas and carrots.
- lacaprup

Danny Gare out at Rats.


I know a couple more 1st hand stories from attendees at some Sabre players parties. Like the French connection throwing beer cans at former #2 overall pick calling him a flameout cokehead and a waste of talent.